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Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Bath Salts Addict » 19 Dec 2015, 03:19

Byond ID: Bath Salts Addict

Character name: Adolph Hammerstein

Admin who banned you: Feweh

Initial duration: Twenty-four hours.

Duration remaining: Twenty-four hours.

Reason for ban (EXACTLY what it says when you try to log in): Image

Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots): I take a drone into surgery to at least try and do something with, planning to swirlie it afterwards. It wakes up, however, and seeing as it doesn't automatically start slashing or stunning, I attempt to RP with it. It responds in kind and disappears down a vent, leading me and a few others to search for it to communicate with it. Unbeknownst to me, it was warned for not immediately killing me and trying to roleplay in response with me and was simply going through the motions. Fast forward and I'm outside EVA where it's made it's home trying to keep people from breaking in to kill it. Eventually I say 'screw it' but not before chloraling a Marine, Isaac Miller, who was threatening to break in and killing it. I proceed to drag Isaac away in case the Drone pops up and goes hostile, but then get held at gunpoint by the RO. At this point, I'm bwoinked by Feweh asking me why I chloraled Isaac. I explained to him that I was simply tired of his edgy shit and drugged him for a few minutes. (5u chloral is completely harmless and only knocks someone out for two minutes. They're even conscious). Feweh wraps it up with me, informing that the drone was warned for attempting to RP, but then the RO comes along and holds me at gunpoint for drugging a Marine. MPs prove too busy and I manage to talk the RO out of it, telling him that there are wounded that need fixing and I'm one of the only medical staff on. He puts his gun away and approaches, and I take the opportunity to chloral him as a small bit of revenge. I proceed to the medbay and dick around in chemistry after checking someone who claims he's infected. Then Isaac shoots in a window with the RO and another in tow and proceeds to gun me down, flushing my head in disposal and leaving me out of the round.

I ahelp it twice after receiving no response the first time, and get this response from Feweh, which leads to the proceeding exchange:
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And ending with this:
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First, I want to say that I'm not sorry for what I did. That statement right there will probably end with this being denied or worse, but I really don't care about getting this appeal accepted. It's just 24 hours. I just want a second, unbiased opinion. There's nothing that can justify this ban or why I was banned in my eyes. Simple as that.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Feweh » 19 Dec 2015, 03:24

Ya this is pretty accurate.

You were banned for exactly what you said though, chloro use on the RO after because "as a bit of revenge".
After I cleared the whole situation up, got you out of trouble with Isaac and told them to leave you alone... you then decided fuck that and sleeped the RO for 'revenge'.
How can I justify to another player to not kill/harm you when youre the CMO running around sleeping people?

You have a history of this behavior and because of your previous warnings you were banned.
Bath Salts Addict wrote:s). He puts his gun away and approaches, and I take the opportunity to chloral him as a small bit of revenge.
Honestly, you pretty much summed up why you were given a warning and then banned right there ^
He put his gun away because the incident was over, I spoke to them and cleared the situation up. Your selfishness kicked in and you escalated the situation again for no reason.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Bath Salts Addict » 19 Dec 2015, 03:33

Feweh wrote:Ya this is pretty accurate.

You were banned for exactly what you said though, chloro use on the RO after because "as a bit of revenge".
After I cleared the whole situation up, got you out of trouble with Isaac and told them to leave you alone... you then decided fuck that and sleeped the RO for 'revenge'.
How can I justify to another player to not kill/harm you when youre the CMO running around sleeping people?

You have a history of this behavior and because of your previous warnings you were banned.
Honestly, you pretty much summed up why you were given a warning and then banned right there ^
He put his gun away because the incident was over, I spoke to them and cleared the situation up. Your selfishness kicked in and you escalated the situation again for no reason.
Then why wasn't I banned almost immediately afterwards? Why go through the whole fiasco with the ahelp conversation? I'm starting to think it's because you just didn't want to actually explain your broken reasoning behind allowing someone to break a rule more severe than just chloraling two people. In what world are staff allowed to let violations of the rules go unpunished because someone else did something less severe to them prior? You don't fight fire with fire.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Feweh » 19 Dec 2015, 12:03

Bath Salts Addict wrote: Then why wasn't I banned almost immediately afterwards? Why go through the whole fiasco with the ahelp conversation? I'm starting to think it's because you just didn't want to actually explain your broken reasoning behind allowing someone to break a rule more severe than just chloraling two people. In what world are staff allowed to let violations of the rules go unpunished because someone else did something less severe to them prior? You don't fight fire with fire.
I went through the whole fiasco and dealt with the issue. You re-ignited everythinf AFTER I spoke to you and the other guys. After that it became a in-game issue and I wasnt going to protect you for your stupidity.

At first I was going to allow them killing you be a acceptable punishment. I checked your notes and notice you had about 4-5 previous notes of doing this kind of shit.

You where banned because of your previous warnings and this additional one, which is why I didnt ban you right away. You need to start improving your attitude and stop putting yourself in these situations.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by TR-BlackDragon » 19 Dec 2015, 14:36

The ro that killed the cmo should also receive punishment feweh. Reguardless of what caused it. 5 u of chloral isn't lethal. And by all standards the ro broke a rule. Now that doesn't mean the cmo is out of trouble. He shouldn't have done it to start with. I say the ban here stays but the ro should also receive an equal ban from the situation.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Feweh » 19 Dec 2015, 14:47

TR-BlackDragon wrote:The ro that killed the cmo should also receive punishment feweh. Reguardless of what caused it. 5 u of chloral isn't lethal. And by all standards the ro broke a rule. Now that doesn't mean the cmo is out of trouble. He shouldn't have done it to start with. I say the ban here stays but the ro should also receive an equal ban from the situation.
Im not going to punish the RO when I told him to drop his guard and let the CMO leave. Right after the RO followed my instructions this guy decides to drug him.

This became a in-game issue after I cleared issue initial problem up.

ALL 3 players were warned for this, Bath Salts was banned for his previous warnings.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Allan1234 » 19 Dec 2015, 16:27

Situation investigated.

Force sleeping is not ok unless your life is being threatened and at the time when you drugged the marine you had only done it for payback not for an IC reason such as self defense which would have been more acceptable.

The reason for your ban was that you had drugged him after feweh attempted to fix the situation which resulted in feweh taking an aggressive stance. The murder was not ok and jason should not have busted into med-bay guns blazing for a none lethal action such as drugging, a warning will be issued for that.

Bottom line is that you antagonized him by drugging him after he was told by a staff member to put down the gun and that escalated situation even moreso after the situation was handled by a staff member which resulted in you being killed and feweh looking at your notes which show a history of notes all within the last 1-2 months. Because of that you where issued a short 24 hour ban.
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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Bath Salts Addict » 19 Dec 2015, 16:42

TR-BlackDragon wrote:The ro that killed the cmo should also receive punishment feweh. Reguardless of what caused it. 5 u of chloral isn't lethal. And by all standards the ro broke a rule. Now that doesn't mean the cmo is out of trouble. He shouldn't have done it to start with. I say the ban here stays but the ro should also receive an equal ban from the situation.
It wasn't the RO that killed me, although I did drug him too.

Rather, it was Isaac Miller who did it. I'm not so rustled by the ban itself rather than the fact someone did something worse than I did without getting punished for it. Like I said, you can't fight fire with fire. I'd happily walk away from this if Isaac Miller was given an equal or greater punishment than I got.

Whenever I ahelp asking permission to kill someone, I'm always told to RP it and play it out correctly instead of running in guns blazing. I'm not even sure Isaac ahelped it or if the prior criteria I described is universal for all requests to kill someone, but he did none of that.

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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Allan1234 » 19 Dec 2015, 16:48

Bath Salts Addict wrote:
I'd happily walk away from this if Isaac Miller was given an equal or greater punishment than I got.

Whenever I ahelp asking permission to kill someone, I'm always told to RP it and play it out correctly instead of running in guns blazing. I'm not even sure Isaac ahelped it or if the prior criteria I described is universal for all requests to kill someone, but he did none of that.
As I said it was investigated and he is being punished for going in guns blazing.
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Re: Unban Appeal - Bath Salts Addict

Post by Feweh » 19 Dec 2015, 16:58

Bath Salts Addict wrote: It wasn't the RO that killed me, although I did drug him too.

Rather, it was Isaac Miller who did it. I'm not so rustled by the ban itself rather than the fact someone did something worse than I did without getting punished for it. Like I said, you can't fight fire with fire. I'd happily walk away from this if Isaac Miller was given an equal or greater punishment than I got.

Whenever I ahelp asking permission to kill someone, I'm always told to RP it and play it out correctly instead of running in guns blazing. I'm not even sure Isaac ahelped it or if the prior criteria I described is universal for all requests to kill someone, but he did none of that.
Isaac did ahelp asking to kill you once he got up, this is why I messaged you asking what happened.

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