SUPERMAN112 ban appeal

SUPERMAN112 · Post by **SUPERMAN112** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:25

Byond ID: SUPERMAN112

Character name: Johnathan Bell

Admin who banned you: lostmixup

Initial duration: 180min

Duration remaining: 180min

Reason for ban (EXACTLY what it says when you try to log in): Stealing doner items despite when staff have said not to

Your appeal, including evidence (an http://www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots): I was never told not to take donor items... not sure what this is, double-checked the rules and found nothing regarding this even fished around the forum. Not sure if this is some unspoken rule, the admin also said "when the staff said not to", I'm sorry but I have no idea what they are talking about they NEVER told me to stop, or give back the armor all they said was "yo what did I just say" so I went back to the last a-help which wasn't even about stealing donor armor. They didn't reply saying "yeah no give it back, don't do that" they just up and banned me. Due to the short ban time I'm sure the ban time will run out before this really gets any attention. The conduct is what really bothers me.

To speak to what happened, the mercs had been cleared to take anything they saw that looked valuable, so I nabbed a helmet (guess it was a donor item) and someone told me to drop it, I told them to clear off and they shoot me. I was trying to rp it while talking to an admin so I didn't say much at the start as I was typing a reply to the admin. But this shitlord shot me first, like really how does that make any rp sense, shoot a merc who is there to help over a helmet being taken off a wounded comrade who cannot even fight while there are huge aliens aboard trying to kill everyone. There are MUCH bigger issues, it felt more like some kind of metagrudge as people in LOOC were telling her to kill me.

Here is the full log, I highlighted our interactions

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Post by **SkyeAuroline** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:28

Not quite the "full log" given that you missed the OOC message, about ~5 minutes earlier, about not taking donator items. Everyone saw it. (I'm Samantha in this; I asked you repeatedly ICly to drop it so I didn't have to ahelp the matter). I'd scroll up and get it, but it's long since scrolled off my message history.

Halinder · Post by **Halinder** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:30

LOOC: Hycinth: oi fuck off with looting donor items
You are unable to equip that.
You are unable to equip that.
LOOC: Hycinth: mine
Johnathan Bell has thrown the desk lamp.
Gustavo Weisgarber says, "Ay"
Joetta Hastings [Sulaco (Med)] (Intercepted) says, "Someone bring a box of shotgun shell to medbay, and I'd highy recommend we need several marines nearby Medbay to guard the doctor, we only have one left likely"
[D] OOC: Feweh: Reminder not to loot donor items

Still uh, probably would've been better if they bwoinked you with the message.

EDIT: It's the full log, he probably just didn't notice it as he was focused on adminPM's.

SUPERMAN112 · Post by **SUPERMAN112** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:38

yeah there was a lot of OOC and in-game messaging going on I missed that, if it was specifically aimed at me I don't know why he wouldn't have sent an admin PM or something or at least warn me about if personally before issuing a ban, I would have promptly discarded it if I was told.

Post by **Feweh** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:46

To be fair, you were a merc so techbically you could of stolen anything on Sulaco... it was within your RP reason.

Post by **Jack McIntyre** » 27 Dec 2015, 01:58

Yea, but you are never allowed to steal donor items without the permissions of the person who donated for it, otherwise people could just run around shooting people for their donor items, merc or not we do have that there. Now I get it you checked a-help instead of checking OOC, but still though mate come on. Also your armor was a downgrade then what you stole soooo yeaaa, all donor item is that of standard marines, it is just looking different then the normal helmets and such. You also weren't banned for that exact reason for stealing someone's items it was because you shot someone for them accidentally hitting a fuel tank you were standing besides in a firefight....just a sidenote, that usually isn't the best place to stand in the middle of a firefight, just my friendly two cents.

But yea besides you shooting someone for your own fault of standing by the fuel tank, don't steal donor gear either.

SUPERMAN112 · Post by **SUPERMAN112** » 27 Dec 2015, 02:05

sorry I don't recall shooting anyone for accidentally hitting a fuel tank near me... are you talking about this person who shot near me?
Uhlan Phosphurous fires the M41A Rifle (Wielded)!
Samantha Bishop is trying to take off the Omega Commissar Helmet from Johnathan Bell's head!
Uhlan Phosphurous says, "Mistfire"
Uhlan Phosphurous says, "Misfire"

Because that wasn't during a firefight and I never shot them back, the only person I shot was someone who had shot me for stealing the helmet. I think there may be some mistaken identity here? A side note, is it in the rules that donor gear is not to be taken and i'm just missing it? or is it implied under don't be a dick?

SUPERMAN112 · Post by **SUPERMAN112** » 27 Dec 2015, 02:34

Feweh wrote:To be fair, you were a merc so techbically you could of stolen anything on Sulaco... it was within your RP reason.

Sorry I got a bit confused, for some reason I wasn't reading the names this whole time and thought all admin PMs were from lostmixup, but the one telling me not to take donor gear was Feweh, but lostmixup issued the ban. Sorry If i messed up with who did what above

Post by **SASoperative** » 28 Dec 2015, 10:25

This has already expired and has been locked. A heads up for the future. Its almost pointless to appeal for a 3 hour ban. It takes a while for logs to update and unless the staff member who bans you manages to see the appeal odds are you are just better waiting it out

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