Ted Kowalsky - Job Ban Appeal

[Swish]

Your Byond ID: Rleoster

Character Name: Jack D. Ripper

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Job Ban (commander, and all other officer slots)

Admin who banned you (if known): Unknown

Total Ban Duration: Unknown

Remaining Duration: Unknown

What other servers do you play on? Paradise once in a blue Moon.

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? Paradise - for persecuting and fire-bombing furries.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Playing as the commander, Jack D. Ripper, I attempted to rid the planet of communist subversion which results in the sapping of our precious bodily fluids and essence. Pure Americans must drink only fresh, non-fluoridated water. In any case, the crew become suspicious of my attempt to start a nuclear war (though mostly through acting as seat sniffers for the unimaginative Xur, who can't RP for shit) and sick their MPs on me. Fearing communist mind scrambling and torture, Jack D. Ripper shot himself in the head with a .45 automatic - true to the film as well. Yes, I know it's against the rules as an officer, but it was justified by RP.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

A bit of reference:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qr2bSL5VQgM

Seeing as this didn't pan out at all since the crew couldn't take basic orders or engage in RP, I probably won't ever attempt it again on this server. I thought it would have been a fun diversion from the usual formula.

[Rain7x]

Snypehunter was the one who placed the Job Ban, by the way.

The problem I have with this is that this was at the start of the round, and it screwed up marine deployment and caused a huge commotion. If you RP'ed this out later during the round somehow, it would have been better. And I disagree with the Killing yourself being justifiable by RP, as killing yourself as the CO is a big no-no unless it is for a VERY good reason.

[Snypehunter007]

As the one who banned you for this I feel the need to post this. You suicided as the CO, played as a name that is against RP guidelines, and even said that you were planning to commit suicide at some point in the round before it had even started.

The situation started off with you asking for the nuke codes AT ROUND START and if you could move the nuke to the surface. This metagaming in a sense, which I should have addressed when I first talked to about, even though you thought that the planet was converted to communism.

You then attempt to move the nuke, which you can do as the CDR, and get arrested by you XO Xur for Neglect, Theft, and Insubordination. The last two were overruled by staff and you were put in the for the first charge.

Your XO was arrested a few minutes before you were released and he was then found guilty of only insubordination.

The XO was arrested for something else at this point and I considered the situation resolved soon after.

We then get an Ahelp that you have committed suicide. You had shot yourself because you were soon to be arrested for some other charge. When questioned you said it was valid RP as the pressure and how your character was allowed for something like committing suicide (he was communist hating and paranoid). To further dig yourself a hole, you then said and I quote "Player PM from Rleoster/(Jack D. Ripper)(?): In fact, I started the game knowing I will have to shoot myself at some point, that's how it went down".

Your notes don't help you either as you have had previous command ban for shooting yourself along with several others.

Edit: You also wrote your own ban reason, the actual reason you were banned was this: "Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Commited suicide as the CDR. He said he played as a paranoid, communist fearing CDR. Shot himself after Xur, the XO, ordered his arrest a second time. Player PM from Rleoster/(Jack D. Ripper)(?): In fact, I started the game knowing I will have to shoot myself at some point, that's how it went down"

[Swish]

That's a pretty accurate interpretation of events except for this:

"Your notes don't help you either as you have had previous command ban for shooting yourself along with several others."

I ran under a landing drop pod as a BO, I don't remember any other bans.

The suicide of Jack D. Ripper is very consistent with his delusional psychosis and the developing situation. I was being approached by 3 MPs in my commander station, just like Gen. Ripper was surrounded by US infantry in his office. It's like pottery.

[Swish]

Snypehunter was the one who placed the Job Ban, by the way.

The problem I have with this is that this was at the start of the round, and it screwed up marine deployment and caused a huge commotion. If you RP'ed this out later during the round somehow, it would have been better. And I disagree with the Killing yourself being justifiable by RP, as killing yourself as the CO is a big no-no unless it is for a VERY good reason.

Yeah, in hindsight I agree it could have worked better after letting the marines do their thing. And I was unlucky enough to start with Xur as an XO - a player absolutely useless at anything other than powergaming and combat.

I've never played as CO prior, in my defense, just wanted to try this out strictly once. So could I have my PO and BO slots made available again if my appeal for CO is turned down? Also seemed to be removed from Response Team.

[Snypehunter007]

That's a pretty accurate interpretation of events except for this:

"Your notes don't help you either as you have had previous command ban for shooting yourself along with several others."

I ran under a landing drop pod as a BO, I don't remember any other bans.

The suicide of Jack D. Ripper is very consistent with his delusional psychosis and the developing situation. I was being approached by 3 MPs in my commander station, just like Gen. Ripper was surrounded by US infantry in his office. It's like pottery.

Banned by feweh | Duration: 180 minutes | Reason: Took Donor gear from another player - read server rules. by (HeadModerator) on Sun, July 10th of 2016

Banned by warnipple | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: EORG by (TrialModerator) on Wed, July 20th of 2016

Banned by whistles | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: Giving away location of xeno via LOOC, not even subtle. by (Moderator) on Sun, August 7th of 2016

Warned for suiciding as BO because he had to go attend to his banana bread in the oven. by (TrialModerator) on Sun, August 14th of 2016

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Wasted a BO position. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sun, August 14th of 2016 Remove

Banned by slc97 | Duration: 180 minutes | Reason: Improper escalation of force. Used mutiny to justify murderboning. Shot the PO multiple times for using a taser. Said he did not know the escalation rules. Banning for 3 hours so he can go learn them. by (Moderator) on Tue, August 23rd of 2016

Banned by maurovega|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG by (Moderator) on Fri, October 14th of 2016

Banned by snypehunter007|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG by Snypehunter007 (Moderator) on Sat, November 5th of 2016 Remove

Joined as "Jack D. Ripper", a play on the name "Jack da or the Ripper. by Snypehunter007 (Moderator) on Mon, November 21st of 2016 Remove

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Commited suicide as the CDR. He said he played as a paranoid, communist fearing CDR. Shot himself after Xur, the XO, ordered his arrest a second time. Player PM from Rleoster/(Jack D. Ripper)(?): In fact, I started the game knowing I will have to shoot myself at some point, that's how it went down. by (Friendly Robot) on Mon, November 21st of 2016 Remove

[Swish]

Right, but the command ban was for suiciding as the BO, not for shooting myself or others, which was a different incident at a different time. Just a correction on that. I've never played CO before and never shot anyone as an officer (except for Jack Ripper killing himself).

Also my name was based on Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper, not Jack the Ripper slasher.

[Snypehunter007]

Warned for suiciding as BO because he had to go attend to his banana bread in the oven. by (TrialModerator) on Sun, August 14th of 2016

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Wasted a BO position. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sun, August 14th of 2016 Remove

This bit is what I was referring to.

[Swish]

This bit is what I was referring to.

Yes, that was me running under a landing pod in the hangar, which as I learned was not the correct way to end a round. I did my time for that.

[Swish]

For the record, I drink only distilled water.

[forwardslashN]

I feel like, while the ban was rightfully placed based on the circumstances, you are actually competent enough to play command when you are not referencing Dr. Strangelove. While a great movie, it's not exactly the best representation of military leadership during a crisis. You gotta stop shooting yourself as command, unless there's some really convincing rp reason, and only then late into the round.

[Feweh]

Denied, you may appeal again in a few weeks.