A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Pre-Alpha]

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A guide to bullet paths and friendly fire. [Pre-Alpha]

Post by TopHatPenguin » 01 May 2015, 16:10

So after we moved forum my last guide on bullet paths was wiped so i'm starting again.

This will be a guide about bullet paths and how to not kill your fellow comrades in arms.

First of all I will bring up the basic bullet lines and I will slowly layer up the info you need on each image.
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In This first picture you will see me surrounded by black lines, these black lines are the basic bullet paths when you have a open area with no allies or obstacles in the way of you shooting.( There are diagonal bullet paths as well which i can add later if need be)
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The RED lines indicate that you cannot fire on those paths and black paths you can. In this picture you will see a man against a wall facing south, When facing south or north remember you will not be able to shoot round obstacles such as walls or glass etc.
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In this image you will see the same man as above and the same wall as above but this time the man is facing west, when facing west or east you can shoot around obstacles such as walls and glass.
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In this image you will see a common concept being used which is normally called the "Wall" formation because it allows marines to cover all bullet paths/firing lanes. The PINK lines are FF lines (Friendly Fire Lines) which means if you shoot there you will hit your teammate. In the image you will see that man again, the man in the middle can fire on all firing lines besides the FF lines due to recent updates on firing guns and etc.The Two comrades can fir on the line in front,behind and infront of the man, which allows the wall formation to be very effective.
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Where to Aim :
"Where should I aim?" I have heard this question asked many times on the server I generally advise aiming for the chest area. Image When you aim for the chest area you will still deal the same amount of damage to all targets including all alien castes ( Besides the ravager who takes abit for damage if you aim for the head)The bonuses of aiming for the chest are that you will not injure your comrades critically in a matter of seconds instead their marine armor will lessen some of the damage which is useful for veteran players and new players due to FF happening alot.When aiming at the chest remember all your damage is the same as shooting from the head but as marines wear armour on the chest they will take a lot less damage if you hit them so keep this in mind.

Now it comes down to the Sin of CM which is aiming for the head Image when you aim for the head a marine helmet it causes two things to happen the first being if you FF you will most likely kill a comrade in about 6-8 shots roughly with a rifle depending on how close you are etc and the second thing to happen is everyone will get pissed at you and most likely tell you to aim for the chest.

More reasons to aim for the Chest are.....
1) People won't get as pissed if you shoot them as it will do less damage to them.
2) Aiming for the chest and shooting at aliens does the same damage as aiming at the head so aim for the chest!

Reasons to aim at the Head are.......
1)If you are 1v1ing a ravager- Rarely do you ever 1v1 a ravager and live to see it die.
2)It's a Pmc Round

So in general everyone should be aiming at the chest unless it is either a pmc round or you are 1v1ing a damn ravager.
Another thing is when aiming at a close by target i.e on tile infront and you click on it you will only shoot at it if you have harm intent ready if you do it will cause a point blank shot which deals extra damage.

One last thing, marines are trained in Cpr, you can do cpr by clicking ( Help Intent )on a man who is critically injured or is having trouble breathing due to being shot by FF
( This was rushed so please tell me anything I missed out from last time )

(I also realized I may repeat myself a fair bit...ah well )
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Post by MechaMaestro » 01 May 2015, 16:50

Woah, woah, woah hold the phone.

YOU CAN SHOOT AROUND CORNERS?!

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 01 May 2015, 17:00

MechaMaestro wrote:Woah, woah, woah hold the phone.

YOU CAN SHOOT AROUND CORNERS?!
yeah only from facing west or East though.

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 01 May 2015, 18:16

Currently investigating into the matter of if you stand here you can shoot north and south http://gyazo.com/eb9c581fdc08f9a4e933488447210886

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Post by Sadokist » 01 May 2015, 20:48

lol, most aptly named and useful thread yet. i'm more worried about teammates when a battle erupts.

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Post by SASoperative » 02 May 2015, 14:35

This is a very helpful guide... But seriously man? even in the screenshots you have to wear your donation gear :p Either way great guide

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Post by Sargeantmuffinman » 04 May 2015, 06:09

We can only shoot around corners west and east ..... why not north and south?

P.S GREAT GUIDE (for noobs and a reminder to not shoot team mates)

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 04 May 2015, 06:16

Sargeantmuffinman wrote:We can only shoot around corners west and east ..... why not north and south?

P.S GREAT GUIDE (for noobs and a reminder to not shoot team mates)
It's just how the code works, I honestly have no idea why that is.

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Re: (Bullet Paths)Wooki's Guide On how not kill fellow Marines

Post by Crystalwarrior » 08 May 2015, 14:50

I knew that bullet paths were awkward as hell but I never realised they were THIS inconsistant.
This is how bullet projectiles are supposed to be imo: https://www.reddit.com/r/SS13/comments/ ... les_today/
You can shoot from corners correctly from all directions, and the movement is much more correct since it uses pixel adjustments.
Here's the PR: https://github.com/AtlasStation/AtlasStation/pull/50

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 08 May 2015, 15:58

Crystalwarrior wrote:I knew that bullet paths were awkward as hell but I never realised they were THIS inconsistant.
This is how bullet projectiles are supposed to be imo: https://www.reddit.com/r/SS13/comments/ ... les_today/
You can shoot from corners correctly from all directions, and the movement is much more correct since it uses pixel adjustments.
Here's the PR: https://github.com/AtlasStation/AtlasStation/pull/50
Yeah they are awkward on Cm for some reason but thanks for the links by the way :)

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Re: (Bullet Paths)Wooki's Guide On how not kill fellow Marines

Post by Crystalwarrior » 08 May 2015, 16:00

They're awkard on most of the codebases, really.
The only other server I know of which uses similar projectile arithmetics is Goon.

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Post by Robin63 » 09 May 2015, 15:34

Never knew the part about shooting east/west around corners! Thank you!
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Post by Dolth » 13 May 2015, 08:06

You can shoot around corners north/south aswell, but you need to take one step back. though. And, yes. Most useful guide you can ever found concerning marines. Please read it. Too many TK.

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 13 May 2015, 11:34

Dolth wrote:You can shoot around corners north/south aswell, but you need to take one step back. though. And, yes. Most useful guide you can ever found concerning marines. Please read it. Too many TK.

EDIT : Don't push collegues into eggs. It's bad.
When i meant shooting round corners i meant up against the wall etc. Thanks as well :)

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Post by SASoperative » 24 Jun 2015, 12:39

This is such a damn lifesaver and god I love it. 10 out of 10

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Post by TopHatPenguin » 24 Jun 2015, 19:16

SASoperative wrote:This is such a damn lifesaver and god I love it. 10 out of 10
I still need to update it as Abs and some other devs have made it so.. you can fire when next to a fellow marine, that will probably be added when i'm next not doing anything.
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Post by TopHatPenguin » 05 Aug 2015, 11:37

Mr. Penguin wrote: I still need to update it as Abs and some other devs have made it so.. you can fire when next to a fellow marine, that will probably be added when i'm next not doing anything.
Updated this finally, if need be i could add how to use curved bullets but eh.. yeah...
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