Buckshot vs Slug: The final debate.

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The ammo types for shotguns always leads to two things that is fit for your playstyle;
cqc-Buckshot
Long range-slugs
Lets be honest people who do pick buckshot is mainly for the damage and don't care what extra buckshots any other marines get hit with it.
I been using buckshot since it's fun to ko a xeno in one hit when they try to pounce near you. If I want my slugs on my shotgun to be more accurate then I would be making sure I don't have a bayonet on it since it would somewhat decrease your acc, thats just me though.

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Buckshot doesn't stun

Slugs win automaticly

but buckshots do

[Heckenshutze]

Yes, both slugs and buckshot stuns, however, it takes a good timing to lure the xeno at a good range to shoot the buckshot and that tactic will get you killed at some point, with slugs you can keep a safe distance and still kick the shit out of them, harder, yes, but safer in my opinion.

Of course, we're talking about fighting runners,drones,sentinels and hunters.

[Szunti]

Admin announced one day that using two primary weapons is considered powergaming. So M41A for long range and M37 for short is not really valid.

[Simo94]

Admin announced one day that using two primary weapons is considered powergaming. So M41A for long range and M37 for short is not really valid.

no ones gives a shit really, you see people with two rifles or two gyro shotguns all the time, theres even ppl with M41 and SADAR, its the least marines can do against xenos with homing macros

[InterroLouis]

Don't take away Thing One(Mag Harness, Recoil Comp/BC, Gyro) and Thing Two(RDS, Recoil Comp/BC, Gyro). They're precious to me and I always load them with buckshot. This is mostly because slug accuracy is completely ruined by the gyro, but also because I can fire them one after the other while using a unique action macro.

[monkeysfist101]

Admin announced one day that using two primary weapons is considered powergaming. So M41A for long range and M37 for short is not really valid.

That would be true if the dev team didn't consider the shotgun a tertiary weapon.

[Simo94]

oh also, there is nothing more gear grinding than when xenos mature enough to deflect ur slugs.....specially crushers...also how weak slugs become after 5tiles...

[Heckenshutze]

OK.

and what about fighting predators? Are slugs better? or buckshot still wins.

[Derpislav]

Buckshot will still do more damage, and it will also cause bleeding, both external and internal. And bleeding is pretty much the only way to reliably wear down an angry bodybuilder on steroids in heavy armour.

[Simo94]

Buckshot will still do more damage, and it will also cause bleeding, both external and internal. And bleeding is pretty much the only way to reliably wear down an angry bodybuilder on steroids in heavy armour.

like Dutch said in the first predator movie ''if it bleeds we can kill it'' and then later on ''GET TO THE CHOOOPAAAAH!!''

[Heckenshutze]

Buckshot will still do more damage, and it will also cause bleeding, both external and internal. And bleeding is pretty much the only way to reliably wear down an angry bodybuilder on steroids in heavy armour.

I thought it took an axe to the head repeatedly.

Still, you'll need the pred to be a close range to get him with the buckshot. with the slugs you can keep your distance something i consider valuable

[InterroLouis]

Predators are fast, and use melee a lot. Closing the distance is what they DO. Buckshot for lyfe.

[Heckenshutze]

So slugs are plain useless at this time? in a general review

[Surrealistik]

Predators are fast, and use melee a lot. Closing the distance is what they DO. Buckshot for lyfe.

Yeah, I've seen 2-3 shots of close range buckshot assblast a full health Pred into crit.

[Sargeantmuffinman]

I go with buckshot.

Great for anything that doesn't have armour!

[Crab_Spider]

Slugs; more AP damage, less chances of FFing my SL to death, more range, and overall, just more control. These things might have gotten me killed, but when those riots are a-comin', they are saving grace. I will always salute the High Command for pre-loading our MK221's with slugs after I killed that B18 spec, and shoved my barrel down Ray Dubi's throat, flooding it with buckshot; pellet by pellet. Brains everywhere on the floor as I murder the CL in cold blood for getting my sister SARP'd during the round, all the while I'm running away from the MP's and keeping them on their knees.

[Heckenshutze]

Slugs; more AP damage, less chances of FFing my SL to death, more range, and overall, just more control. These things might have gotten me killed, but when those riots are a-comin', they are saving grace. I will always salute the High Command for pre-loading our MK221's with slugs after I killed that B18 spec, and shoved my barrel down Ray Dubi's throat, flooding it with buckshot; pellet by pellet. Brains everywhere on the floor as I murder the CL in cold blood for getting my sister SARP'd during the round, all the while I'm running away from the MP's and keeping them on their knees.

What would you use againts Brett Kimple?

[Crab_Spider]

What would you use againts Brett Kimple?

The weakest pistol ever to be concieved in this game, with oh so many throwing knives to all target areas, and a slow and painful death by space carp. But that's WAY too good for him.

[Heckenshutze]

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The weakest pistol ever to be concieved in this game, with oh so many throwing knives to all target areas, and a slow and painful death by space carp. But that's WAY too good for him.

Was Kimple that bad? wouldn't you prefer a single slug to the head, point-blank with a barrel charger?

[InterroLouis]

The barrel charger reduces accuracy. If you put a barrel charger on your M37, you really should use buckshot. I hit a young ravager with a full buckshot from a barrel charged shotgun and it instantly crit it. Buckshot is just better, if you want to use slugs take a pulse rifle.

[Crab_Spider]

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Was Kimple that bad? wouldn't you prefer a single slug to the head, point-blank with a barrel charger?

Yes he was. Damn baldie couldn't even hold the gun with 2 hands and his best response was to walk in circles in front the ko'd CMO and hunter that killed all 3 of us. If he had been gitten gud and is now a PMC, then damn straight he'd be worthy of that barrel charged slug to his stupid chrome dome.

[MrJJJ]

OK.

and what about fighting predators? Are slugs better? or buckshot still wins.

Buckshot wins easily, most of the time predators move around while fighting you, if you miss the slug, you miss and get 2 more melee hits into you, but buckshot can easily cuck the predator, and if you have a tactical shotgun, you can outcuck, outmelee and outfight the predator with some Tactical combat.

I always use buckshot, never the slug, i used to use it until i discovered just how GOOD buckshot was, especially against hunters, if you have someone with you, you can kill even ancients with buckshot shotgun, the only good way i can see a slug being used is if you turn your shotgun into a essentially a sniper rifle with attachments, and even then its the same problem Sniper has, it just...doesn't kill xenos effectively, even wounded ones.

[Derpislav]

can easily cuck the predator (...) you can outcuck

Get the fuck out.

[MrJJJ]

Get the fuck out.

Nu