Setg'in'h'dlak Yautja Application

[Rain7x]

Huh. I just looked at your forum join date. my bad, +1

[Boltersam]

I used my own inspiration I guess ''breaking the lore'' and adding my own group, you have done it yourself with the USCM fleet destroying your entire clan, and its custom, so I did something of my own which is not even a major thing.

I didn't break the lore because for all intents and purposes, my clan does not exist in the lore. (Also, clan customs are as varied as they get. There's some ridiculous stuff in there. More lack of Yautja knowledge displayed)

You broke the lore, because your envisioning of PMCs goes directly against what is stated in the lore.

Even if they are elite, let's look at something everyone here has likely seen, Predator. Starts off as a black ops mission, where Dutch and his gang kill a bunch of terrorists or something of the sorts. It seems they are unstoppable, and are complete maniacs and can take any job they take. They are slighted freaked out about the skinned bodies, but they have seemed to see shit like this. After the Yautja starts picking them off one by one, freaking them out, using sounds and lure them, and their emotions. You claim that they won't fire a spray of bullets but, uh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5h6KszHGPTI

Dutch's Dozen are NOT PMCs. I am referring to PMCs. Your Predator would have died to the PMCs in your story.

You also state because they are trained, they won't run and be disciplined and will just /shoot back/. They are in the open, in a wooded area with many places to hide, a few explosions go off. Dust goes in your eyes, and in the air, you an ever A. shocked and need a second to go, What the hell just, and B. in the open. This is the definition of an AMBUSH. See, in the open, there is no cover, but even state of the armor can't protect you from bullets coming at you for about 10 seconds. What you would do if get up, run behind a tree, or simply GTFO not wanting to die. The few PMC's in a squad wanted to take cover so they can fight. Back, despite the few running off, a squad has around 8 people in it, having three or four runs off makes this believable. Also, they don't know where it came from. Shooting randomly everywhere suppresses enemies from shooting back, and also might hit them. even as you pointed at, this was a small detail I should have tweaked and changed a bit with more proofreading to avoid that. Let's move on to your main issue my play style.

Yes. I state that because they are even more highly trained than the USCM, and some even know about Yautja, most knowing about Xenomorphs, they will just /shoot back/ because even the USCM would shoot back. That's what they do when faced with a hostile. Now, I haven't said this before, but the "Dust in the eyes?" PMCs have some of the most advanced equipment available, and assuming that the planet they're on doesn't already require breathing masks, they'll surely have head and face protection on. These are fighters that deal with Xenomorphs on a daily or weekly basis. You uncloaked and tried to rush them after firing at the ground around them, hoping to get dust in their eyes. You. Are. Dead.

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This is the stuff that gets entire hives to swarm.

Do you know how xenomorphs work in the lore? They are a hivemind everything they see and know, all other xeno's know. IF one xeno sees me, I am going to get swarmed either way with the current meta of xenos in the game, and this basic fact.

I DO know how Xenomorphs work in the lore. This is not the lore, but they will know where Xenomorphs die. If you actively TRY to piss them off, I guarantee you'll be swarmed, tacklespammed, and killed or infected.

move onto the main issue you point out the play style.

As I will quote. From my comment

Useing a weapon, or a tool and indirectly using a tool are two different things you realize correct. A great example that everyone knows about. A nuclear weapon. You can directly use it to kill people and flatten cities. You can indirectly use it to make it seem like a deterrent, saying go to war and I can nuke you. What about a big military, the American military. NO country would go to war with us [[small and not insane]] even with a few allies. We have some of the best tech in the known Universe and a giant military. We could wipe them off the face. Using a laser pointer is indirectly using it, and also shows how I can use a weapon in a few smart ways.

I UNDERSTAND that they are two different things, and I don't even mind that you do use it to try to scare them. The point was that you said you'd do more than just try to scare them with the plasmacaster and in this post said you demonstrated you can use it smartly. You didn't. You demonstrated two basic ways to use it that are A: Shooting around them, and B: Aiming at them. That's it. Nothing smart to be discovered there.

I can find more ways, but I will need time, you just say marines will swarm ME and xenos will just gang up on me. Thanks for telling me, but I would prefer to experience these things myself, so I can better develop as a player, and roleplayer. I don't know a thing about the CM's Yautjas ((I take that back I know very FEW things)) so I don't know what players are more likely to do. From what I have seen players roleplay things like this, even the known shitlers. As said, Xenos is a hivemind, even if one see's me, it is almost instantly given to all members of the xenomorph hive, and they can swarm me at any time. I will avoid it obviously, and try and take on lone xenos. Even if they need to type :a Help Headhunter at X location)) The best thing to do is to quickly eliminate it, grab its trophy, and move on without facing the entire hive.

Lore Xenos, yes. Ingame, the Xenos just want to rush and swarm you for the glory of killing a Predator. Now you state you want to try to cripple the Xeno team by killing their Queen, to be given an Elite status (Which you can't get in the whitelist, as with Clan Leader). That has far more effect than it would if you snuck up to the Sulaco, and decapitated the CO. Killing the Queen is usually a terrible idea if you're in a position to do so.

In short, you're demonstrating very little actual information about how Predators and Xenomorphs themselves work on the server. You're not ready for the whitelist.

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I didn't break the lore because, for all intents and purposes, my clan does not exist in the lore. (Also, clan customs are as varied as they get. There's some ridiculous stuff in there. More lack of Yautja knowledge displayed)

You broke the lore because your envisioning of PMCs goes directly against what is stated in the lore.

Where is it stated? In fact going throughout xenopedia ((my source of information)) it never says that every PMC is elite and knows about everything xenomorphs yautja etc. The only thing we have is the Weyland-Yutanti PMC's and the Iron Bears. Just saying every single merc group and PMC group highly trained is just silly and out to far fetched. My main source of yautja lore comes from the movies and xenopedia, I DO NOT have access to the comics, where it goes into more detail, and just shows it. If you were to give me a website where I could read them, I'll read them. http://avp.wikia.com/wiki/Alan_%22Dutch%22_Schaefer please read the last sentence of the Early Life part.

In 1980, Dutch left the United States Army and set up his own private military company, mainly recruiting other US Army personnel.

a Private Military Company is a PMC, just PMC is an acronym.

Yes. I state that because they are even more highly trained than the USCM, and some even know about Yautja, most knowing about Xenomorphs, they will just /shoot back/ because even the USCM would shoot back. That's what they do when faced with a hostile. Now, I haven't said this before, but the "Dust in the eyes?" PMCs have some of the most advanced equipment available, and assuming that the planet they're on doesn't already require breathing masks, they'll surely have head and face protection on. These are fighters that deal with Xenomorphs on a daily or weekly basis. You uncloaked and tried to rush them after firing at the ground around them, hoping to get dust in their eyes. You. Are. Dead.

As stated in my last paragraph, and before I am not writing about this super elite PMC group that goes and kills xenomorphs 24/7.

If my use of PMC confused you, I apologize and I will take into consideration the slight difference between them. For the uncloaking, I already said I should have described it better, and I take full blame for that, I should have written something that made a tad bit more sense.

I DO know how Xenomorphs work in the lore. This is not the lore, but they will know where Xenomorphs die. If you actively TRY to piss them off, I guarantee you'll be swarmed, tacklespammed, and killed or infected.

Yeah, they will know where they die, they will in the lore to due to their hivemind. You say via pissing them off will just end up with me being killed or infected are you just saying don't hunt them? I mean that's what it seems like this is going to come down to avoid even being swarmed, tackespamed, and then killed or infected, but they will do it anyways because its the xeno meta, I will just have to figure my own way on how to avoid it, if I do kill a xeno It's not like I can just pull his body away so if some come I am already out.

I UNDERSTAND that they are two different things, and I don't even mind that you do use it to try to scare them. The point was that you said you'd do more than just try to scare them with the plasma caster and in this post said you demonstrated you can use it smartly. You didn't. You demonstrated two basic ways to use it that are A: Shooting around them, and B: Aiming at them. That's it. Nothing smart to be discovered there.

You do realize that even ''basic'' things can become smart things. IE: Basketball. The crossover is very basic and in the right situations very smart. It's the variations on how I do things that define ''smart'' and the small things I do to make it that way.

Lore Xenos, yes. In the game, the Xenos just want to rush and swarm you for the glory of killing a Predator. Now you state you want to try to cripple the Xeno team by killing their Queen, to be given an Elite status (Which you can't get in the whitelist, as with Clan Leader). That has far more effect than it would if you snuck up to the Sulaco, and decapitated the CO. Killing the Queen is usually a terrible idea if you're in a position to do so.

Yeah no shit lore and in game xenos play styles are different. They want to kill yautja like it's their one purpose in life just for the reasoning of. I killed a yautja I am robust! I plan on finding the xeno's and marines that want to RP trust me I have seen a few even from the xenomorph side. I state I want to kill the queen for elite status which I know does not exist in CM. I am just providing a lore reason. After the events of LV-624, I would be promoted to elite. That is not in the whitelist, the only thing that is Elder, which Apophis has said no one but Heads of Staff will get into when I asked him if he thinks anyone would be promoted to it. I am not sure what you are saying about the CO but I do not plan on killing anyone on the Sulaco at all or plan on going up. Killing a queen is a horrible idea why? The Queen / Empress is considered one of the most dangerous creatures to hunt, and ranks are around KILLING Queens, entire Hives, and queens. IF crippling a side is your major no-no. Killing even a single marine or lonely runner is crippling them. When you hunt someone you kill them or you die. If you kill them, then you cripple that side and benefit the other side. No matter how you look at it.

In short, you're demonstrating very little actual information about how Predators and Xenomorphs themselves work on the server. You're not ready for the whitelist.

I don't think I know a lot about CM Yautja just from what I observe. I don't know a lot because it is whitelisted, and I can't get any more information just watching. I would need to be whitelisted or ask other whitelisted people about Yautja. You just claim that I don't know how xenomorphs work on the server, but you are just arguing about how they play, which is not how that works, or xenos work. A playstyle is how you play something, how they work is just, how they work.

If you have any more concerns I'll address them to the best of my ability.

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I'm going with a -1. You have some good qualities in your application, but ultimately, I think you would do better to sharpen up your Yautja knowledge and try again in a few months. Your forum activity is also very low, with most of your posts in this thread and the CO app.

[Retro]

I'm going with a -1. You have some good qualities in your application, but ultimately, I think you would do better to sharpen up your Yautja knowledge and try again in a few months. Your forum activity is also very low, with most of your posts in this thread and the CO app.

Do you mind telling me where a good start for learning more Yautja lore is? ((Besides the Offical AVP Wiki)) most of my information comes from there, and specifics comes from the movies and what I read, I can name a lot of things which I know but are really required in the application. For example

Any Inspiring Spear Master Must kill a winged beast located on Yautja Prime's deserts. ((Unsure of the name))

Disc Masters ((Masters of the Smart Disk)) can control their smart disk with their mind with some degree after long years of training.

These are just a few things I know from reading the wiki. I can't answer anything in detail about comics or games because I have never read or played them. If you have a site where I can read the comics I will jump onto them ASAP. As I have said my forum activity is pretty low but I consider myself a ''luker'' more than a poster. I have seen funny things such as some of the BS Ban Appels where I show them to Free My Soul, as we laugh at some of the details. I read all the guides but I don't post because its grave digging, or I don't need to add anything.

If you can tell me on this post or a forum PM what I did wrong and Right in this application I can assure you I can fix what I did wrong and reinforce the things I get right in three months.

[forwardslashN]

Do you mind telling me where a good start for learning more Yautja lore is? ((Besides the Offical AVP Wiki)) most of my information comes from there, and specifics comes from the movies and what I read, I can name a lot of things which I know but are really required in the application. For example

Any Inspiring Spear Master Must kill a winged beast located on Yautja Prime's deserts. ((Unsure of the name))

Disc Masters ((Masters of the Smart Disk)) can control their smart disk with their mind with some degree after long years of training.

These are just a few things I know from reading the wiki. I can't answer anything in detail about comics or games because I have never read or played them. If you have a site where I can read the comics I will jump onto them ASAP. As I have said my forum activity is pretty low but I consider myself a ''luker'' more than a poster. I have seen funny things such as some of the BS Ban Appels where I show them to Free My Soul, as we laugh at some of the details. I read all the guides but I don't post because its grave digging, or I don't need to add anything.

If you can tell me on this post or a forum PM what I did wrong and Right in this application I can assure you I can fix what I did wrong and reinforce the things I get right in three months.

There are several sources I use. Xenopedia is one of them. Also:
http://www.avpgalaxy.net/predator/
http://www.jokerdesigns.com/thehunted/index.php
http://www.oocities.org/gunsandgod/intro.html

Try to describe who your character is in Yautja society. Just because they fought an elder as training and ran around a desert doesn't really show any specific understanding of Yautja lore. When Setg'in'h'dlak runs into the PMCs he probably wouldn't automatically assume they are PMCs. If that's done for the reader's sake, it's still completely irrelevant because the predator the story is focused on doesn't react in any interesting way. It could have been any random number of humans, or nonhumans, and the result could have been the same. It would have been preferable to show that he was curious about them, watching them for a while, because they displayed odd coloration compared to the other humans. You could also insert here how much he actually knows about the soft meat, if anything. Maybe he's got a really mild-tempered compared to a lot of the other Yautja, but maybe he took off his biomask, to take in his surroundings, and found the sight of these humans enough to enrage him. Maybe he was really surprised by that. That right there gives the character an interesting spin and some depth.

How you intend to play the character is pretty good. It's pretty annoying to see everyone running around challenging everything to an honor duel. Try to tie your playstyle to your character's background for best results.

[Feweh]

Denied, doesnt meet our standards or expectations.