Is it just me or is the pred explosion unfair?

[Swagile]

K but heres the problem, when one does what they're supposed to do and mass hunt and kill a bunch of people... everyone cries and complains.
Now people are complaining that predators don't hunt and kill people enough.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't

Man.

Guess im cucked out of being able to see a pred annihilate a marine squad with a clan sword.

[caleeb101]

K but heres the problem, when one does what they're supposed to do and mass hunt and kill a bunch of people... everyone cries and complains.
Now people are complaining that predators don't hunt and kill people enough.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't

The only reason people complain if they do is because they only hunt marines. The reason people complain if they don't is because they are just a nuisance at that point and people find it unfair that they only hunt one side or do jack.

[Feweh]

The only reason people complain if they do is because they only hunt marines. The reason people complain if they don't is because they are just a nuisance at that point and people find it unfair that they only hunt one side or do jack.

People complain for every reason, as i said ti swagile.

Damned if you do, damned if you dont

[Crab_Spider]

The only reason people complain if they do is because they only hunt marines. The reason people complain if they don't is because they are just a nuisance at that point and people find it unfair that they only hunt one side or do jack.

Oh no. They hunt XENOS TOO

[Swagile]

Yeah they hunt xenos; its just xenos are harder to kill since the fighting castes have tons of stuns while marines have less stuns at their disposal. And marines are squishier and have long lasting damage; xenos heal up in seconds to minutes depending on how much you hit them.

[TheMaskedMan2]

Predators hunt Xenos a fuck ton what are you going on about? Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

[Telegnats]

In much the same way that just because you don't see pod wizards from the Zingdong Nebula doesn't mean they don't exist. Both statements on either side are useless without proof.

[McRipfist]

It's just you. If you don't like seeing Predators go up in smoke and gibs you got something off about you.

[4thsurviver]

I've only had a couple of run ins with Preds and usually had a good time. I remember one on LV I led a fire team into fitness and we encountered a pred who studied us as I tried to get them to identify them self. Later on we were fortifying tcomms and power and a pred smashed some lights and I chased it down with 2 other marines yelling halt and got shot in my chest by its plasma caster. We retreated back to the rest of the squad and engaged in a fixed battle with multiple preds. I asked in LOOC if that meant we were winning and the preds said we were winning badly. Eventually the preds fired into tcomms and blew several marines to pieces, I also lost my foot. I spent the next 20 or so minutes in a chair in shock and started drifting in and out of consciousness. Eventually from what I was told as I was knocked out at the time but a pred suicide bombed our position and killed all of Alpha squad minus me and a medic. I was on the other side of the room and left alive but deaf. Alpha squad hadn't even seen a Xeno that round. I got left behind stuck in that chair and couldn't move until a crusher finally came into the room and dragged me off. Shortly after this the xenos took the rasp up to the ship.

I wonder if we really were winning that round in the first place or preds can have that much of an impact on the round. They did single handily kill an entire squad mostly do to their explosion. I just wish I actually saw it happen instead of just waking up to see the aftermath.

[northcote4]

The recent buff to pred explosions made me a very happy chappy.

Previously, although providing a huge AOE stun, the explosion itself was rather lackluster. As in, incapable of killing a young drone levels of lackluster. Now the predbomb is actually meaningful, rather than just an inconvenience.

But as for the rest of this thread: Feweh summed it up pretty concisely. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People complain about every aspect of Predators (some people solely for the fact that they are predators. So no one playstyle will ever please everyone.

[caleeb101]

Predators hunt Xenos a fuck ton what are you going on about? Just because you don't see it happen doesn't mean it doesn't happen.

I observe most of the time on weekdays because I don't have enough time to finish a round. It's rare that I see a Predator specifically going for xenos.

[caleeb101]

The recent buff to pred explosions made me a very happy chappy.

Previously, although providing a huge AOE stun, the explosion itself was rather lackluster. As in, incapable of killing a young drone levels of lackluster. Now the predbomb is actually meaningful, rather than just an inconvenience.

But as for the rest of this thread: Feweh summed it up pretty concisely. Damned if they do, damned if they don't. People complain about every aspect of Predators (some people solely for the fact that they are predators. So no one playstyle will ever please everyone.

I'm gonna try and tread carefully here while leveling with you. I feel like they don't add anything to the game. They ruin the round for one side and then piss off. What's the point of them. I don't even want to be a prick here. I'm literally wondering what the point of them is. I want to say they should be removed but they are so pointless and don't do anything anyways, there isn't even reason in doing that.

[northcote4]

I'm gonna try and tread carefully here while leveling with you. I feel like they don't add anything to the game. They ruin the round for one side and then piss off. What's the point of them. I don't even want to be a prick here. I'm literally wondering what the point of them is. I want to say they should be removed but they are so pointless and don't do anything anyways, there isn't even reason in doing that.

I'll start by addressing that other post you made about predators hunting xenos:

From my personal experience, there are two primary reasons most predators refrain from hunting xenos exclusively:
1. The difficulty. There's no question about it that in a 1v1, a good xeno is a far bigger challenge than any marine. While on one hand, it makes them a legitimate, dangerous foe to hunt (as they damn well should be), some folk just don't want to take that risk if it means dying 15 minutes into the round and accomplishing basically nothing.

2. Xenos evolution. The other major factor (IMO) for xenos hunts is that there's a sort of unspoken meta about which ones are worth hunting. Generally you're looking for Mature+ Tier 2 or higher xenos. If you can fight a mature hunter, good on you. But the issue comes when fighting anything above that. Things like Elite T2s/T3s have a massive impact on the round. The difficulty in killing one aside, the issue is that if you do kill one, you might end up shifting the game balance massively. And that's to speak nothing of how the xeno player themselves might feel; that's like 2 hours of evolution gone. Some don't take too kindly to that (understandably).


But as for the role of predators? That's fair enough my dude, everyone has their own take on it. It's definitely not MY place to shut people down. As I understand it, they're there to provide a bit of extra spice to the round. Ideally to sate those RP-minded marines, but we both know that isn't always the case. Some marines just love a good punch-up, which preds generally seem to provide on a more fair basis than xenos from what I've seen, so that's also a factor.

I won't deny that they're not for everybody, but I won't lie, I think a lot of the pred-salt comes from either salt-because-salt, or from people who were just caught by a pred whilst already in a bad mood.


/narrative

[Heckenshutze]

People don't know shit how hard is to play Predator, literally, a single bad kill (killing someone/something not fitting in the prey category) gets you kicked of the list. And, doesn't matter what you do, you'll be hated for doing what you're supposed to do: BE AN ANTAGONIST.

I can't speak for others but for myself, I hunt only xenomorphs and when the round doesn't allow me to, I just simply observe or fuck off to the ship and ghost. The marines I kill are those that shoot me at first sight and I kill them and whoever helps them, if you don't like it, don't attack me scrub.

[Katsukai]

Pred explosion is only unfair when the fucker is not on crit and chases you sonic speed while bomb is ticking.

[Varnasis]

I would tone down the massive blast radius to avoid wiping out a whole portion of the map, especially on the map we play 1000 times before changing to any others (Jungle). Jungle is rather small so on there it basically blows up one whole building and everything around it or like nearly the entire Nexus building. I don't make the rules or code the server but hey on the smaller maps it's more affected, on the larger map I don't see it being an issue considering there is still a lot more around to play with and form up on.

[Swagile]

Tbh I like the fact than entire building blows up.

The one time Feweh and two other predators blew up all of Nexus, it really added to the feeling that its "oh shit" time on the planet. Everythings blow up, barricades are down, and Rasp is leaving with everyone evacing. Its truly a sight to see.

You rarely see the actual affects of a xeno vs marine battle except for maybe some bodies, some xeno blood patches, and some broken barricades. Which kinda sucks because its amazing to walk into a firefight and see all this devastation happening since it really feels like your fighting a losing(?)/winning(?) war (depending on what side is winning or losing).

[Snypehunter007]

I know I am late to the party but in response to the title, it is indeed just you.

[ExGame]

K but heres the problem, when one does what they're supposed to do and mass hunt and kill a bunch of people... everyone cries and complains.
Now people are complaining that predators don't hunt and kill people enough.

Damned if they do, damned if they don't

Well, you're damned if you do and damned if you don't all the time if you have a large enough base of people to judge it.
Doesn't matter what you do.