Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by BruceJuice69 » 17 Sep 2018, 11:07

It’s a pun, he said he doesn’t like Germans


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Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 17 Sep 2018, 11:18

Dolth wrote:
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I mean I love you mate but again unless you're kidding, this is just a complete non-sense.
Pretty sure he's joking to a thousand to the max on this one Dolth

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by WinterClould » 17 Sep 2018, 14:33

I constantly make fun of germans because of my love for my lord and savior Bomber Harris, eternal bain of Dresden. I don't actually have any real life hate for the krauts. Id really be an autist if I did actually take memes into real life.

Should be noted that our server is "medium rp" but roles like command, synths, pred, and the typical event characters even, are all encouraged or are supposed to be high rp roles. And if you want to play your lower marines with higher rp as well it's even encouraged.

So our rp is really as low as everyone else let's it fall depending on really how staff enforce rules on people acting low rp. Is playing a stereotype but playing it really well low rp? I'd say no but someone might instantly see the stereotype and scream reeee ban him for racism. Does only adding the same bad accent (aru) onto the end of words every once in a while (or worse every other word) make your rp higher? I'd say no again but fuck what do I know.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 17 Sep 2018, 15:13

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I constantly make fun of germans because of my love for my lord and savior Bomber Harris, eternal bain of Dresden. I don't actually have any real life hate for the krauts. Id really be an autist if I did actually take memes into real life.

Should be noted that our server is "medium rp" but roles like command, synths, pred, and the typical event characters even, are all encouraged or are supposed to be high rp roles. And if you want to play your lower marines with higher rp as well it's even encouraged.

So our rp is really as low as everyone else let's it fall depending on really how staff enforce rules on people acting low rp. Is playing a stereotype but playing it really well low rp? I'd say no but someone might instantly see the stereotype and scream reeee ban him for racism. Does only adding the same bad accent (aru) onto the end of words every once in a while (or worse every other word) make your rp higher? I'd say no again but fuck what do I know.
Your main argument was RP, and low RP isn't punished therefor you cannot prevent someone from throwing 'aru' because of low RP, which is half of the players against him.
The other half actually screams for racism while, as stated above, Jesser 'Auchwitz' is allowed to use and play with his nickname and that's from far more racist than just spamming a stereotype.

In the end, all of your arguments are invalid, not just you Chen, but the whole thread accusations and such. Also keep in mind I am being roasted by almost everyone with 'baguette honhon snails' etc. Litterally 8/10 people that knows and whom I've been talking a bit further than just ICly. And I am not complaining.

Cease being offended on japanese's behalf and wait for one to be actually 'offended', and let's suppose one actually comes up and tell an admin he's offended, man the fuck up. Afterall with a bit of discussion this could have educational purposes.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Heckenshutze » 17 Sep 2018, 20:01

Best type of meme is to RP as the stereotype your race represents.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by WinterClould » 18 Sep 2018, 02:05

Wait how am I offended on Japan's behalf I said arus are dumb but that's because it's dumb not because it's racist or distasteful. It's such critically low hanging fruit, that's what makes it bad.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 18 Sep 2018, 03:37

Not you specifically, silly goose. That was adressed to everyone in the thread. Some peeps screamed racism.

To you personally I meant : yes it's low RP but it's still allowed as much as REEEEEE.
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Post by WinterClould » 18 Sep 2018, 04:26

I feel you brother. Reeeing is also hella gay low hanging fruit. Like playing a German who acts like a member or the werhmach or worse the SS. I mean can't people try and be original in some compassity? There's so many races and cultures that could try and bring to CM. Why not atleast try to be original and claim to be Austrian or Swiss/German instead of the next Arian Ubërmench or being a copy cat of Heinz? Why not try out a people from Indochina like laos, Tailand, Vietnam, or Cambodia instead of just playing another Japanese because they're a massive weeb? Still Asian so you can do some funny quality stuff but maybe that's to much effort to learn a little first?

We've got some cool cats, like that guy from Norway playing a Norwegian right? Or was it Sweden? Denmark? I forget. Either way people should be like that. Cool original ideas if you aren't playing an American. Or do your unoriginal idea really well and avoid low hanging fruit. Few people play brits surprisingly, could be an easy way for people to start out mixing things up with that right?

Or my fellow Americans can take pride in the nation they already live in and the fact it's incredibly diverse as is. Why not play a southern hillbilly or a lady that talks in a Minnesota accent instead of trying to be the next Tyrone Deblack? These are the questions I ask myself. Relend did a great job of this though with her self insert Southern Gal that spoke with a goofy accent, even stayed in character oocly. That was amazing and more people should take inspiration from them.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 18 Sep 2018, 06:29

You don't understand mate.

It doesn't matter how much you think it's low fruit RP, or how unoriginal it is. You are preventing a player to play because of your private liking/opinions and ONLY rules should be able to do that.

At this point Juro is bullied by everyone whining in this thread.

Let the man have his fun ffs.
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Post by Avalanchee » 18 Sep 2018, 07:04

If I got bwoinked for doing
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Post by Rarien » 18 Sep 2018, 07:36

Funny AF RP, makes the game that much funner. It's a lot better than the bland copy paste games and personalities.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 18 Sep 2018, 08:00

WinterClould wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 04:26

Or my fellow Americans can take pride in the nation they already live in and the fact it's incredibly diverse as is. Why not play a southern hillbilly or a lady that talks in a Minnesota accent instead of trying to be the next Tyrone Deblack? These are the questions I ask myself. Relend did a great job of this though with her self insert Southern Gal that spoke with a goofy accent, even stayed in character oocly. That was amazing and more people should take inspiration from them.
There's a few of us

Tex did the southern thing pretty well before he called it quits. Problem is accents are hard to convey through text. All the native spanish speakers say my Chicago RP is on point and don't have an issue with it.

I also just envisioned a marine in a minnesota saying "Oh Gosh ya, there's those big lizard thingys in Engineering un huh yeh."

Also I don't think it's really racist if a character who is black playing a PFC/LCPL/CPL wants to pretend they're from the hood and say "My Nigga" because A. The context, B. I know plenty of Veterans who spoke like that before they got older and promoted to NCO ranks and started to become more experienced/professional. Shit I even work with an officer who grew up in the poorest part of Baton Rogue and says "Motherfucker" every other word.

What Katashi did in the beginning wasn't racist, but it was just over the top memery/dumb, and I think he's toned it down.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 18 Sep 2018, 08:41

Alright.
That's too much for me, I am gonna stay out of CM politics before I get really overboard angry.

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Post by Mikotoba » 18 Sep 2018, 13:32

WinterClould wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 04:26
I feel you brother. Reeeing is also hella gay low hanging fruit. Like playing a German who acts like a member or the werhmach or worse the SS. I mean can't people try and be original in some compassity? There's so many races and cultures that could try and bring to CM. Why not atleast try to be original and claim to be Austrian or Swiss/German instead of the next Arian Ubërmench or being a copy cat of Heinz? Why not try out a people from Indochina like laos, Tailand, Vietnam, or Cambodia instead of just playing another Japanese because they're a massive weeb? Still Asian so you can do some funny quality stuff but maybe that's to much effort to learn a little first?

We've got some cool cats, like that guy from Norway playing a Norwegian right? Or was it Sweden? Denmark? I forget. Either way people should be like that. Cool original ideas if you aren't playing an American. Or do your unoriginal idea really well and avoid low hanging fruit. Few people play brits surprisingly, could be an easy way for people to start out mixing things up with that right?

Or my fellow Americans can take pride in the nation they already live in and the fact it's incredibly diverse as is. Why not play a southern hillbilly or a lady that talks in a Minnesota accent instead of trying to be the next Tyrone Deblack? These are the questions I ask myself. Relend did a great job of this though with her self insert Southern Gal that spoke with a goofy accent, even stayed in character oocly. That was amazing and more people should take inspiration from them.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by BruceJuice69 » 18 Sep 2018, 14:35

Just to clarify I’m not a weeb, just doing a funny voice
I’ve also done a hillbilly character named Jonathan appelcock but it just wasn’t as fun as jap rp.

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Post by Vampmare » 18 Sep 2018, 15:29

Mikotoba wrote:
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Why should anyone put that much effort into a server that's MRP in name only
I would argue that doing a stereotype like Juro here is doing, is already putting in plenty of effort. I think what Chen is saying is that they should put that effort towards some more creative realistic? roleplaying.

There are roles geared towards both ends. MRP and LRP as private and then the CO, CL and so on that go for more of a HRP.
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Post by Mikotoba » 18 Sep 2018, 16:23

BruceJuice69 wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 14:35
Just to clarify I’m not a weeb, just doing a funny voice
I’ve also done a hillbilly character named Jonathan appelcock but it just wasn’t as fun as jap rp.
I'd hang out with a Johnny Applecock.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by WinterClould » 18 Sep 2018, 19:09

I've never said that anyone HAD to do anything, just that they should. I'm not full of myself enough to think my work has ever had any actual weight behind it in regards to this discussion. I'm just offerijng suggestions to the community on what they could do to make their RP better and more original.

People constantly say that our server is only mrp in name, or is effectively LRP 90% of the time. And to that I say miss me with that gay shit. The RP level of the server is what the staff and the players together make it. If you want the server to be an RPless free for all deathmatch cluster fuck then feel free to throw RP out the window and become an emotionless killing machine who ignores comms and only lives to reenact the events from the latest Doom game. But if you actually want this server to have quality RP, bringing us back up to Medium or even bordering High RP, then you're gonna need to put in effort.

If you start putting in work for the kids then some of these cats are gonna pick up on what work is. If you raise your RP level then you can raise the level of everyone around you who's willing to go along with it. It's a chain reaction that can spread. It's how Charlie became known as an RP squad, some people just put in the work and you can to. Sure some people will never go along with it but you can't help that and shouldn't let it stop you from trying.

Also no one in my books HAS to avoid low hanging fruit. It's just I'm of the opinion that you SHOULD. Do whatever man it's a free country till you break the server rules, but still. If you're going after low hanging fruit you aren't putting in the work that raises everyone up and helps the marine team all go beyond together.
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Post by BruceJuice69 » 18 Sep 2018, 19:23

Hey I try to RP unlike most people, I actually give it some thought. I just think people are more keen to rp with you if you have an interesting quirk that's noticeable like an accent, I'm not breaking any rules which is what this thread is about.

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Post by Mikotoba » 18 Sep 2018, 23:30

WinterClould wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 19:09
People constantly say that our server is only mrp in name, or is effectively LRP 90% of the time. And to that I say miss me with that gay shit. The RP level of the server is what the staff and the players together make it.
And the vast majority make it LRP 90% of the time.
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Post by Avalanchee » 19 Sep 2018, 02:00

Yeah well I will be honest,

Only like 15% of the community have proper lore knowledge and a will to roleplay.

85% average ungas, me kill me make jokes

After a while you will find yourself in a circle that you can't leave, you will roleplay with the same people over and over again.
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Post by Dolth » 19 Sep 2018, 03:55

BruceJuice69 wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 19:23
Hey I try to RP unlike most people, I actually give it some thought. I just think people are more keen to rp with you if you have an interesting quirk that's noticeable like an accent, I'm not breaking any rules which is what this thread is about.
The problem goes even further. You were told to change your char behaviour because people complained about it being stereotypical and low RP. None of it is a rule therefor you should be left in peace.

But as I saw you online yesterday chattering with your accent I am not even sure if it is still related.

Edit: Agreed with Murray, and while we are at it. I could bet my salary more than half of whoever complained about low RP don't even know we're in 2186, what's val verde and hadley's hope and why the sulaco disappeared.

I do. And I am listed as a 'unga dunga me no rp Deltard'.
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Dolth wrote:
19 Sep 2018, 03:55

Edit: Agreed with Murray, and while we are at it. I could bet my salary more than half of whoever complained about low RP don't even know we're in 2186, what's val verde and hadley's hope and why the sulaco disappeared.
Yup, almost nobody knows about Marlowe or Sephora for example
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by WinterClould » 19 Sep 2018, 06:33

More people need to learn the bigger picture of the lore and universe. It's to awesome to just ignore.

I bet there's few people who play that know we're just years away from, well, I'll not spoil it, but the Comic series is known as the Earth Wars, so, take that as you will and go read the comics they're pretty amazing and have a lot of Earth Gov/Marine characters that show you how people act in the late 22nd century.

Shit speaking of Marine info, the Colonial Marines Technical Manual is basically a must read of all of us who want to know more about the equipment and shit we're using. Give that bitch a run down.



I'd really like if we made our own official lore cobbled from all the different movies, games, books and comics so we could actually post it on the wiki where people could find is easier all in one place without needing to know already about each and every novel or comic that ever had something significant to our game in anyway.
We'd need to change names cuz muh copyrights but still. It would be worth the effort if we did it.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 19 Sep 2018, 06:39

The timeline section in the wiki is far enoigh to undrrstand the basis of the lore depths.

We're straying away from the main topic.
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