Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by awan » 27 Aug 2018, 11:51

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by simonset55 » 27 Aug 2018, 12:10

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Mudder don't you mean great gimmick is HRP?
If the gimmick isn't insane like this one, where the commander of a, US vessel mind you, can actually speak understandable english. Then it might be HRP.

The fact that the acting commander is some kind of bushido warrior is quite LRP, it's a memey gimmick.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Bancrose » 27 Aug 2018, 16:38

simonset55 wrote:
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If the gimmick isn't insane like this one, where the commander of a, US vessel mind you, can actually speak understandable english. Then it might be HRP.

The fact that the acting commander is some kind of bushido warrior is quite LRP, it's a memey gimmick.
Oh I misinterpreted what you said earlier.

Yeah without a doubt its not fitting for a commander to not speak basic english, but this guy literally said "I need paperu."

That line will forever make me laugh.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 27 Aug 2018, 20:07

Kinda funny when americans complain about potentially offending asian community while current asian lad doesn't get offended.

Man up, it's a game. Jeez. If anyone gets offended indirectly by an IC IG accent then I really doubt you'll go far IRL with people mocking your nose shape or ypur tone or your mimicks. Grow up.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Loco52 » 27 Aug 2018, 20:24

Bancrose wrote:
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Oh I misinterpreted what you said earlier.

Yeah without a doubt its not fitting for a commander to not speak basic english, but this guy literally said "I need paperu."

That line will forever make me laugh.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Mikotoba » 28 Aug 2018, 03:00

There are much worse examples of LRP so you're okay to me.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by SolarMacharius » 28 Aug 2018, 05:25

Your sacrifice as Alpha SL on Big Red will not be forgotten. Honestly as long as you give your character a little more depth and get robust people wont mind. I dont really see much of an issue here regarding rp, since people constantly screech about Vbucks during briefing. I feel its probally people who were personally offended and used RP guidelines as a shield for their personally motivated reports, but thats just me.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by BruceJuice69 » 28 Aug 2018, 08:18

SolarMacharius wrote:
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Your sacrifice as Alpha SL on Big Red will not be forgotten. Honestly as long as you give your character a little more depth and get robust people wont mind. I dont really see much of an issue here regarding rp, since people constantly screech about Vbucks during briefing. I feel its probally people who were personally offended and used RP guidelines as a shield for their personally motivated reports, but thats just me.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Bancrose » 28 Aug 2018, 19:58

Dolth wrote:
27 Aug 2018, 20:07
Kinda funny when americans complain about potentially offending asian community while current asian lad doesn't get offended.

Man up, it's a game. Jeez. If anyone gets offended indirectly by an IC IG accent then I really doubt you'll go far IRL with people mocking your nose shape or ypur tone or your mimicks. Grow up.
Bro imagine being black and playing a black person but you're offending all the white players with it. Its a legit paradox.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 28 Aug 2018, 22:34

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Bro imagine being black and playing a black person but you're offending all the white players with it. Its a legit paradox.
Shit BE opinion.
Shit Juro's paradox opinion.

On a serious note, your example is exactly the same than the current "issue". Let the real person affected by the said offending situation complain instead of "thinking" that the situation can "possibly" offend them.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Bancrose » 29 Aug 2018, 01:11

Dolth wrote:
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Shit BE opinion.
Shit Juro's paradox opinion.

On a serious note, your example is exactly the same than the current "issue". Let the real person affected by the said offending situation complain instead of "thinking" that the situation can "possibly" offend them.
How painful it must be to be offended on someone elses behalf. Imagine living in that society brother.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by AcuteCircle » 29 Aug 2018, 01:34

Vocal minority. Pretty much everyone loved your character and I had a few laughs myself when I saw you in-game but some asshats have to make a fuss about it until you get banned.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Troika » 29 Aug 2018, 01:52

If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. There is almost no faster way to make people hate you.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 29 Aug 2018, 05:16

Bancrose wrote:
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How painful it must be to be offended on someone elses behalf. Imagine living in that society brother.
Dude I am French. I know what it is.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by BruceJuice69 » 29 Aug 2018, 08:10

Alright fellas, I've just decided to not play as much so as not to get banned. Too much of a grorious thing isn't good you know. Thanks for all the responses boys but since the admin who threatened to ban me has not commented I hereby pronounce myself NOT guilty!
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by CABAL » 29 Aug 2018, 10:05

This gimmic isn't as funny anyway. Cutting the end of some words and adding "aru", or something like that. It's like adding "ing" and "end" to emulate "englishman" speaking other languages:

"Cyka Blyating", but nobody will laugh at that beside native speakers of this language, so it's not that funny for me either. "YeeeeHaaaw... Kał-Boju!"
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 29 Aug 2018, 11:00

BruceJuice69 wrote:
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Alright fellas, I've just decided to not play as much so as not to get banned. Too much of a grorious thing isn't good you know. Thanks for all the responses boys but since the admin who threatened to ban me has not commented I hereby pronounce myself NOT guilty!
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by BruceJuice69 » 29 Aug 2018, 12:03

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I liked your character. Rest in peace.
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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by butters742 » 10 Sep 2018, 19:39

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So about a week ago I was trying to think of a new and interesting character to play CM on since I was getting kind of bored with how generic my current character was. I thought “Hey! Why don’t I give him an accent that’d be cool”. So I went ahead and made Katashi Juro, I figured that the easiest accent to do would be that Japanese samurai accent that you see in movies since it’s so over the top it’d be easy to make it clear what kind of accent it is. So I went ahead and started playin some good ‘ol cm. Recently though, I started getting some flak from a few players and one of the admins.

The player report made on me is here: viewtopic.php?f=63&t=18399

So in the end the player report was resolved in my favor but I was told by imperator_titan to tone it down a little. I agreed and did my best to tone it down, I replaced some of the aru’s with the much subtler u’s and didn’t yell so much. Today and yesterday though I was bwoinked several times by another admin who didn’t think I was toning it down enough. He said that my character was “low rp” and that I was breaking rule no. 1. He said unless I stopped playing Katashi Juro or stopped using an accent I would be banned. He also mentioned that he was the one who managed the appeals, which also bothered me since he was the one who was going to ban me. Rule 1 states:

“Colonial Marines is intended to be a Medium Roleplay server. Treat your character as a separate entity from you, the player. Your character's actions, feelings, and knowledge in-game should be based solely on the character's experiences and not your own as the player. Each round is a fresh start with no knowledge of the previous one carrying over. You as a player might know where a hidden stash of weapons is located from the last round, but your character does not. Acting upon knowledge your character does not have is metagaming (see: No metagaming or metacommunication rule below). This rule may be ignored in some game modes such as Whiskey Outpost and other “Survival”-type maps that pit escaping marines against waves of enemies”

So I read through it and told him that I thought my character was medium rp. It defines medium rp right there in the rule, according to the CM rules medium rp is where you play as a character separate from yourself, and that how your character acts during the round is based on what your character has experienced and not what you have experienced. I think that my character fully meets these requirements. In fact the only requirement I see for something to be medium rp is that your character is a character which Katashi Juro undoubtedly is.

I understand that admins have the power to interpret the rules but really i’d Like a second opinion. People of CM , bannu? Or no bannu.

You were my SL the one round. One of the best things an SL can do is make a Character like that. Not sure if its borderline or not. But made it immersive. Plus you took my BC and then got captured which funny enough was hilarious situation. So what im saying is i liked what you did.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Chaznoodles » 11 Sep 2018, 06:15

Troika wrote:
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If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. There is almost no faster way to make people hate you.
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Post by Novus Luna » 11 Sep 2018, 06:44

I will admit, that while I'm outspoken to fucking despising your character, I've had a character with an accent before. French. I operated under like, 2 rules for it: 'th' became 'z' and dropping a lone 'h' if it was at the start or end of a word.I did not open every sentence with 'oh lala' and 'hon hon', which is the closest equivalent that I can think of to what you've done quite a bit, that I can think of. In any case I made sure he had development beyond being french. I will be also clear that I stopped playing the character because I thought even the two phonetic rules were a bit much, and I realized that it honestly just seemed like I was making fun of the language, which wasn't my hope at all (I practice voice acting and study phonetics a lot).

And...well, to show how much or little it changed things for comparison (knowing the irony full well), let's take the above used quote:

If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. There is almost no faster way to make people hate you.

If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. Zere is almost no faster way to make people 'ate you.

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Re: Katashi Juro vs. The state of CM

Post by Dolth » 11 Sep 2018, 14:55

Novus Luna wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 06:44
I will admit, that while I'm outspoken to fucking despising your character, I've had a character with an accent before. French. I operated under like, 2 rules for it: 'th' became 'z' and dropping a lone 'h' if it was at the start or end of a word.I did not open every sentence with 'oh lala' and 'hon hon', which is the closest equivalent that I can think of to what you've done quite a bit, that I can think of. In any case I made sure he had development beyond being french. I will be also clear that I stopped playing the character because I thought even the two phonetic rules were a bit much, and I realized that it honestly just seemed like I was making fun of the language, which wasn't my hope at all (I practice voice acting and study phonetics a lot).

And...well, to show how much or little it changed things for comparison (knowing the irony full well), let's take the above used quote:

If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. There is almost no faster way to make people hate you.

If your gimmick involves a verbal tic of any kind it sucks. Zere is almost no faster way to make people 'ate you.
I am French. And while lone examples doesn't make one of a ruling. Your character would of give me a couple of chuckles.

As stated above, being offended by a character on a -medium- RP servers implies you have issues in the first place, really. Especially when someone is just making fun of a language.
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