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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 30 Aug 2018, 15:16

We'll have to see because I was just 3 hour banned by a mod for not "toning it down", which I think is completely ambiguous and subjective and I'm pretty sure he's never seen how I used to talk. It really bothers me that whenever I'm warned it's by different staff, I have no idea if they know the whole story or not, also one staff's idea of "tone it down" will be different from another staff's idea. On top of that the guys who warn me never want to talk about it. It makes me feel like the staff is divided on what to do with me.

Thanks for the +1 though

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Survivor » 30 Aug 2018, 16:13

I swore I +1'd already, but I guess I didn't.


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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by taketheshot56 » 30 Aug 2018, 16:16

+1 the guy is a fantastic roleplayer and fantastic leader akin to Xur Durgens. He manages to rally DELTA of all squads into organization and keeps them in line, that is a feat in of itself. As SO and XO Ive always seen you make competant choices and do so well in the course of a round as well as adding your own twist.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 30 Aug 2018, 16:25

Thanks Obama

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Sir Lordington » 31 Aug 2018, 12:29

Very low RP, had to warn you to tone that stuff down 3 times myself and you had been warned by another staff member before. I could've banned you and didn't, but I don't want you anywhere near a whitelisted RP role.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 31 Aug 2018, 19:09

Sir Lordington wrote:
31 Aug 2018, 12:29
Very low RP, had to warn you to tone that stuff down 3 times myself and you had been warned by another staff member before. I could've banned you and didn't, but I don't want you anywhere near a whitelisted RP role.

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Recently I have taken the advice of those who posted in the thread you suggested I make and changed my accent to make it more acceptable. Sometimes it’s hard to keep it consistently tame especially when I’m under pressure and typing fast but I think it’s gotten to the point where no one should have any problems with it. When I’m in the CiC I always set a high standard for my rp. The most fun thing for me in CM is when everyone is working together and communicating. I find that people will give a shit about what you’re saying more if you say it like you just gargled antifreeze, and in turn this increases the amount of rp, but I digress. I haven’t seen you on during the time period that I changed up my accent but your fellow staff members have been on and have witnessed me and they still believe that I would make a good CO. Like omicega and driedmilk said I would most certainly change my demeanor when I do choose to play the CO role, and I would like to say I have been -aru free for 96 hours

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Brotemis » 31 Aug 2018, 23:34

+1

Give me paperu. Memes or not, people actually listen to you. Maybe its the accent, I don't know.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Novus Luna » 07 Sep 2018, 11:44

Basically echoing the words of the last few -1's, but...-1. I could not take you serious as a Staff Officer, much less a Commander, with that ridiculous, racist garbage. I had to outright ahelp about it at one point, only to find out you've had a forum complaint lodged against you beforehand, and the admins had talked to you TWICE to my understanding before that point. I"m speaking in seriousness here that I realize people on this server are fine with dumb memes like this, or ridiculous Commanders like Carson or Wellick. I'm not. I despise it. The CIC, in my eyes, is the one place that is to have some sanctity of roleplay on this server, and that is not it. If you want to speak with a dialect? That's fine, I've had a character speak with a French dialect before, but that just changes a few phonemes, not much more. If you want to have it so another language is their first language, that's fine, but speaking as someone that has met several people with German, French, Spanish, Chinese, and Japanese as their first language, this is not representative of how they speak. It's a mockery of it.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Sargeantmuffinman » 07 Sep 2018, 13:38

I'm at odds here. The character's dialect, although funny is insulting. To me, it's fine a bit excessive. My advice, tone it down a lot. Replace any "aru" with slow and careful speaking English or broken English.

Example: Hello, um, I am, Shen.
We need to get to, the, um, to base.

Even then, I have no idea if this is acceptable. For now, we'll need to monitor how you roleplay your character next.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 07 Sep 2018, 15:25

I don't say aru anymore. I beg to differ about the CiC being a sanctuary for roleplay I can go a whole round with the CO not interacting with me as SO.

I am not trying to represent what a 21st century Japanese person would sound like if they spoke English. I'm not trying to mock what they would sound like. I can't see how anyone would be insulted by this, it's obviously not mean-spirited, I don't have a hatred of Japanese people. I just wanted to do an accent that would be instantly recognizable to people and if it's a little silly and cartoony then so be it people have fun. Seinfeld has racier humor than this and I think it adds rather than detracts to the rp people get. There is only so much ordinary generic marine rp people can handle.

I think that rounds with Carson are always different and interesting and that's what I strive to do as a CO. My accent is pretty light now compared to what I used to do so if anyone who has reservations about my abilities would look at how I play currently and reconsider that would be nice.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Vampmare » 07 Sep 2018, 17:55

You commit to your role and go all in. I can respect that. Your gimmick can be fun and interesting, but my personal gripe with it is that it can be hard to understand what you're writing at times or it was. Gimmicks and new ideas are more than welcome in CIC, if they're done right and they are understandable. I'm sure you'll spice things up with either this guy or another character, so I'm willing to give you the chance.

Now as for the application itself, "An example of a “yes that’s a BE” situation would be, if a SL goes ahead and retreats their squad from a two-squad assault causing the other squad to get demolished, without receiving orders to do so. " I'm not a fan of this example. This is very common and you'll have to deploy to kill the SL in question, wasting a load of time and it really does no good. Ignoring that line, the rest of it was good and lines up well with what I expect of a Commander. Effort was put into it and it was thought out.

I almost downvoted because of the comic sans, but the positives outweighted it so +1.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 07 Sep 2018, 18:02

Vampmare wrote:
07 Sep 2018, 17:55
You commit to your role and go all in. I can respect that. Your gimmick can be fun and interesting, but my personal gripe with it is that it can be hard to understand what you're writing at times or it was. Gimmicks and new ideas are more than welcome in CIC, if they're done right and they are understandable. I'm sure you'll spice things up with either this guy or another character, so I'm willing to give you the chance.

Now as for the application itself, "An example of a “yes that’s a BE” situation would be, if a SL goes ahead and retreats their squad from a two-squad assault causing the other squad to get demolished, without receiving orders to do so. " I'm not a fan of this example. This is very common and you'll have to deploy to kill the SL in question, wasting a load of time and it really does no good. Ignoring that line, the rest of it was good and lines up well with what I expect of a Commander. Effort was put into it and it was thought out.

I almost downvoted because of the comic sans, but the positives outweighted it so +1.
Thanks for the input!

I guess deploying for a BE is a pretty bad idea but the point I was trying to make there is that I won’t BE for OB mistakes and the like but for intentional stuff. If the situation was unclear I’d definitely hold back on the BE but if it’s obvious to me and my staff that an SL is at fault he might just lose his head.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Vispain » 11 Sep 2018, 13:31

From my perspective, experience and your post amount as well as join date, you are a relatively new joiner and I don't really consider you a Command player or mature enough yet.
I would give a provisional +1 as you borderline on lowRP and you could be a good CO if you dropped some more...controversial aspects but last time I checked there are no "provisional COs."
I should be whitelisted because not only am I a world class rper I also really enjoy command roles and think I’m pretty decent at em. As a commander I’ll do my best to give outside the box rounds, as well as provide the good people of CM with some fun, memorable rp. I also consider myself to be a master tactician and have never lost a round as XO (it’s never been my fault anyway). In short I am not bald despite my character being bald and am cool and good. Thank you for your time.
I notice you not only manage to blame others for losses, but seek to purely "go for the win" while instilling your version of excessively low "memorable rp"

CO is a HRP role and I don't think you are quite there yet.

As such, I'm afraid this is a -1 for borderline if not actual LowRP, immaturity, lack of involvement in the associated roles, and low involvement in the community
Your cockiness in this dossier combined with LRP and how you act to controversy and conflict was also a turn off.

Regardless of whether or not you are whitelisted with this app, I hope to see you improve and grow as a player. In that sense, good luck.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 11 Sep 2018, 15:20

Vispain wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 13:31
From my perspective, experience and your post amount as well as join date, you are a relatively new joiner and I don't really consider you a Command player or mature enough yet.
I would give a provisional +1 as you borderline on lowRP and you could be a good CO if you dropped some more...controversial aspects but last time I checked there are no "provisional COs."



I notice you not only manage to blame others for losses, but seek to purely "go for the win" while instilling your version of excessively low "memorable rp"

CO is a HRP role and I don't think you are quite there yet.

As such, I'm afraid this is a -1 for borderline if not actual LowRP, immaturity, lack of involvement in the associated roles, and low involvement in the community
Your cockiness in this dossier combined with LRP and how you act to controversy and conflict was also a turn off.

Regardless of whether or not you are whitelisted with this app, I hope to see you improve and grow as a player. In that sense, good luck.
That part where I was talking about winning was a joke in case you missed it. I respect your opinion that my character is low rp but I don't know what you mean by lack of involvement in associated roles. Do you mean I don't play enough command or that I don't involve myself when I play command? For the most part I solely play command and SL unless I latejoin, and my last SO round I think I said more than the other 2 SO's combined when you were CO. You are right that I don't involve myself in the community enough but I don't think that should stop me from getting a CO white list, and I didn't mean to sound cocky i meant to sound confident. Could you also elaborate on what turns you off about how I handle conflict? If you really want me to become a better player you should give me some tips on how to improve, I'm always open for criticism.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 11 Sep 2018, 15:23

Also I have been playing since around the beginning of this year but not nearly as often as I do now. Other characters I have had were Louis Pascetti and Jonathan Applecock. Also I am fairly sure only the subtitles were in comic sans when I wrote this but maybe I forgot, I only meant for the subtitles to be in comic sans and I realize it looks pretty bad.

Edit: so for some reason the body text when I look at it on my phone is in times new Roman but on my PC it’s all comic sans

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Vispain » 11 Sep 2018, 17:41

BruceJuice69 wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 15:23
Also I have been playing since around the beginning of this year but not nearly as often as I do now. Other characters I have had were Louis Pascetti and Jonathan Applecock. Also I am fairly sure only the subtitles were in comic sans when I wrote this but maybe I forgot, I only meant for the subtitles to be in comic sans and I realize it looks pretty bad.

Edit: so for some reason the body text when I look at it on my phone is in times new Roman but on my PC it’s all comic sans
Absolutely.
So when I say 'handle conflict' I mean from a OOC and IC way. ICly I just can't see you as a CO handling a situation with the dignity of the role as it stands. From my POV and from the actual loading screen when you join as a CO, it's a High RP role. Currently, I just can't see you performing in a way befitting the role.

I understand you are improving yourself but currently I can't +1 or abstain in good conscience.
OOCly and ICly, I get this impression you wouldn't handle criticism well either. It's just a vibe of mine I'm getting and while I'd rather not elaborate in the OOCly sense, I'll give an example of the ICly sense.
You mention being a "master tactician who has "never lost a round as XO" and then "(it's never been my fault anyway)."
What this tells me is:
  • You are cocky.
    You blame others for failed operations.
    You like winning (not a bad thing alone).
    You may react badly ICly or (as this application is well...OOCly) OOCly if criticized for failure or making a bad decision.
    You consider yourself a master of CM leadership which makes you extremely cocky and confident to proclaim having "never lost" and being a "master tactician"
Being involved in the community is, while not all important, is a factor that matters. This combined with, from what I've read, that you want to be 'going for the win' makes me not really approve of your style. You mention adding your variant of RP, but sadly from what I remember it's more of a meme then commander material. Hell, some may complain but, we've had people banned for memery. Disregarding the fact it's Medium to HRP server you must understand you are applying for a High RP role.
Again, I hear you are toning it down but I still can't, with the other factors, disregard it straight up for this application.

Being cocky was just a little sidenote but on character judging it fits with my impression of you. I've been given me the impression you are only in the game to win while employing your more memey accent while blaming those around you for when you inevitably fail now and then.

If you want tips on how to improve yourself I guess take the advice others have given you and drop the heavy accent. I know some other players described how to. Application wise, I could excuse the font...but it's more the impression I've been given by your trademark and your words and less the font (honestly, I don't much care for the font but it's not a factor. It's just a font after all.). Gameplay wise, I don't mind you too much but from the little I've seen of you as a XO I can't say you made a great impression. The accent was extremely thick.
I don't think you are completely unfit for the role and MY -1 is not a hard, unchanging -1 forever but... for now I just can't +1. It wouldn't feel right and neither would abstaining.
Sorry and Good Luck either way.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 11 Sep 2018, 17:59

Thanks for clarifying

That line where I call myself a master tactician was sarcasm which I guess wasn't very clear. I'm not a master tactician and I have lost rounds as XO I was just poking fun.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Vispain » 11 Sep 2018, 19:55

BruceJuice69 wrote:
11 Sep 2018, 17:59
Thanks for clarifying

That line where I call myself a master tactician was sarcasm which I guess wasn't very clear. I'm not a master tactician and I have lost rounds as XO I was just poking fun.
Yeah, no issue.I recently played with you, as you probably noticed, and was pleasantly surprised. Your accent wasn't as thick as usual and in that vein I was understanding. Some of what I said still stands, other bits...not so much. While I am going to keep this at -1 for several reasons I wish you luck nevertheless.
If you are whitelisted, congratulations on your 'promotion' and I hope you evolve further as a player and in the community. With time, you'll be a fine CO.
If you aren't whitelisted, there is always next time and when that time comes I likely will be putting you down as +1.

You are close, but in my book not entirely yet there. Good luck.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Bancrose » 18 Sep 2018, 03:51

I am going to go ahead and look past your gimmick and give it to you straight chief.

You can command, You've shown us your not utter garbage.

Now I have no right to judge your meme gimmick as we all know what Heinz was like when I first started playing him.

+1. But you should take it a bit more serious since its considered a HRP role.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 18 Sep 2018, 15:08

Thanks Bancrose I do indeed plan to be more reasonable in commander I appreciate the +1

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by solidfury7 » 18 Sep 2018, 18:11

To be honest, at first I didn't really mind your whole archetype at first, however after watching the level of roleplay you had as an XO for a few rounds, I don't think I can support this application.

You promised to tone it down in the past and I haven't seen that at all.

There is having a character quirk, and then there is having a character stereotype, and that isn't suitable for the most important HRP role on the ship.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 18 Sep 2018, 18:23

edit: I'm changing it to neutral, he redeemed himself in another round, but the aru gimmick is still making people mad.
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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 18 Sep 2018, 18:28

ThesoldierLLJK wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 18:23
I have to change my +1 to a -1 you were told to tone it down and during a round of big red you kept it up to the point that others have complained they cannot understand your orders.

I’m still a supporter of you, but of what I saw you do today as XO while ghosting as a mod, I cannot support you at the moment because you’ve gone backwards instead of forwards. Maybe you had a bad day, but when applying for the whitelist you have to be on your a-game at all times.
I'm sorry that that was a bad round, I was alone in CiC for the beginning and I think my orders were unclear less because of the accent and more because of me being stressed and incompetent, and as I've said my accent gets worse when I'm distracted. Anyway I hope you reconsider after I play a few more rounds as it's been a while, I wouldn't even consider going in as CO if I thought I wasn't prepared like i wasn't today.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by BruceJuice69 » 18 Sep 2018, 19:30

solidfury7 wrote:
18 Sep 2018, 18:11
To be honest, at first I didn't really mind your whole archetype at first, however after watching the level of roleplay you had as an XO for a few rounds, I don't think I can support this application.

You promised to tone it down in the past and I haven't seen that at all.

There is having a character quirk, and then there is having a character stereotype, and that isn't suitable for the most important HRP role on the ship.

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If you're referring to me killing myself then I understand. That was stupid, if I had ahelped I probably would have been shot down. I was just having a bad day and wasn't really thinking, wouldn't do it again at least not as XO or CO.

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Re: Katashi Juro/Snow7 commander app

Post by Urytion » 22 Sep 2018, 10:33

I'm just going to reiterate my -1 because of the LRP memery. There was that thread made about his behaviour in the USCM thread and now this thread, and he really hasn't gotten any better from what I can tell. When he's in command he still gives orders that are hard to understand, and when he's not in command he does stupid shit.

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