Which faction is the underdog now?

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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Chaznoodles » 07 Sep 2018, 08:53

Xenos never used to need any skill to play. Nearly every class was MMB to win. Now with the changes, xenos players need to use some modicum of skill to win a fight, unless it's lowpop lurker murdergangs.

It's almost like they're in the same position marines have been for years, hm.

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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by JacksonDee » 08 Oct 2018, 00:16

I think that at the moment, the Xenos and marines are pretty equally matched. I'm seeing a lot of good fights recently, and some REAL close ones at that. DOREC made the marines curb-stomp, but when explosive resistance was added to Xenos, it balanced out greatly.

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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 03:38

Benos need (on top of any buffs or whatnot they might need) more character. Let's face it. Both sides have proven they can kick metric fuck tons of ass with or without the hard statistical numbers to back it up. It's the veterans that win rounds, it's the skilled individuals. Benos have next to no regular vets that play ad much as marine mains do. So like, how do we get more people to play beno? Fuck if I know but having character and not being the faceless swarm our great apapa above first envisioned would probably go a long way.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by JJG » 08 Oct 2018, 03:47

WinterClould wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 03:38
Benos need (on top of any buffs or whatnot they might need) more character. Let's face it. Both sides have proven they can kick metric fuck tons of ass with or without the hard statistical numbers to back it up. It's the veterans that win rounds, it's the skilled individuals. Benos have next to no regular vets that play ad much as marine mains do. So like, how do we get more people to play beno? Fuck if I know but having character and not being the faceless swarm our great apapa above first envisioned would probably go a long way.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 03:49

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Xenos with long pink hair...kill me now
I said personality. Snowflakes are the antithesis of personality.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Mikotoba » 08 Oct 2018, 04:03

WinterClould wrote:
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I said personality. Snowflakes are the antithesis of personality.
Xenos have no personality. They exist to propagate their species and murder anyone that puts up too much of a fight.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 04:11

Mikotoba wrote:
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Xenos have no personality. They exist to propagate their species and murder anyone that puts up too much of a fight.
Yes but lemme hit you with this.


Gameplay over lore.


If personality is what it takes to keep people playing xenos thus giving marines a better fight isn't it worth pissing on our piss soaked rag of a lore just a little more?
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Mikotoba » 08 Oct 2018, 04:24

WinterClould wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 04:11
Yes but lemme hit you with this.


Gameplay over lore.


If personality is what it takes to keep people playing xenos thus giving marines a better fight isn't it worth pissing on our piss soaked rag of a lore just a little more?
Or maybe they should fix the part of the gameplay that matters, aka playing as the xeno, and make it better instead of adding superficial elements like "personality" that don't apply to xenos in the first place.

Just a thought, what do I know?
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 04:29

Mikotoba wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 04:24
Or maybe they should the part of gameplay that matters, aka playing as the xeno, and make it better instead of superficial elements like "personality" that don't apply to xenos in the first place.

Just a thought, what do I know?
Devs been fucking with how xenos play for years champ and they've never had a strong playerbase. Adjusting stats, adding a thing here or there hasn't helped them at all.

Giving them something the marines have had going for them forever, the thing that keeps veteran marine players playing. Some community, some personality, some RP. Giving them some of that could be just what the bugs need to get people playing regularly.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Mikotoba » 08 Oct 2018, 04:47

WinterClould wrote:
08 Oct 2018, 04:29
Devs been fucking with how xenos play for years champ and they've never had a strong playerbase. Adjusting stats, adding a thing here or there hasn't helped them at all.

Giving them something the marines have had going for them forever, the thing that keeps veteran marine players playing. Some community, some personality, some RP. Giving them some of that could be just what the bugs need to get people playing regularly.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 04:49

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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Sleepy Retard » 08 Oct 2018, 06:39

xenos dont need 'personality'. just give them names for metabuddying purposes and metabias at the best, otherwise its retarded. xenos should not have personality nor do they need it
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by GoliathTheDespoiler » 08 Oct 2018, 06:51

El Defaultio wrote:
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xenos dont need 'personality'. just give them names for metabuddying purposes and metabias at the best, otherwise its retarded. xenos should not have personality nor do they need it
Like it or not, every xeno has a personality, the player reflects that through them.

Some are stoic and insanely obedient, others are shitty memsters that laugh at everything, even themselves.

There should be a way to reflect, because hives aren't uniform, and it can be hard to remember a certain player during the round since it's all numbers.

Simple names should be allowed IMO, just for the sake of communication, or at least having a consistent character.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 08 Oct 2018, 08:53

When I say personality I mean that in the vaguest way humanly possible. It could be literally anything from names like you said or pink pokadot spots. Whatever the devs and players who play ornwoulf play xenos are cool with. I don't play xeno and never will, so I only care about how it'll effect marines, and I feel building a greater sense of community for the hive would give the marines a better fight.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Madventurer » 08 Oct 2018, 09:44

How about having an option to display your OOC name in Hive Status? You could show yourself to be a reliable xeno by playing with your OOC name, or just hide it in case you're not sure of your abilities yet. Queen's name already gets revealed at the end, so bad xenos getting laughed at is hardly a problem. Of course, the metabuddy thing needs to be addressed somehow, and I don't have ideas for that quite yet.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

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How about having an option to display your OOC name in Hive Status? You could show yourself to be a reliable xeno by playing with your OOC name, or just hide it in case you're not sure of your abilities yet. Queen's name already gets revealed at the end, so bad xenos getting laughed at is hardly a problem. Of course, the metabuddy thing needs to be addressed somehow, and I don't have ideas for that quite yet.
Legit you're just saying "showing ckey in Hive Status" right now, and we've been talking about that shit over and over again for a long long while.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by carlarc » 10 Oct 2018, 07:15

underdog faction is ERTs
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by WinterClould » 10 Oct 2018, 09:11

That one guy in those erts who just spawns with a spear. THAT GUY is the underdog.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Simo94 » 10 Oct 2018, 10:17

giving non human antags personality can work, just look at umm.....planet of the apes recent films.
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by CABAL » 10 Oct 2018, 10:33

I've got a "Cool and Smart" idea to get anything implemented. To literally force Staff to change it. If somebody knows someone who works in FOX, he could just say to him to send an E-Mail here that (For example) "Faceless Drones", as our xenos are, is a big part in Alien universe and this makes us too similar.

Day one, day two and day three in changelog: "Xenos are no longer faceless" so xenomains *roar and "REEEEEE!".
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

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CABAL wrote:
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I've got a "Cool and Smart" idea to get anything implemented. To literally force Staff to change it. If somebody knows someone who works in FOX, he could just say to him to send an E-Mail here that (For example) "Faceless Drones", as our xenos are, is a big part in Alien universe and this makes us too similar.

Day one, day two and day three in changelog: "Xenos are no longer faceless" so xenomains *roar and "REEEEEE!".
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

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CABAL wrote:
10 Oct 2018, 10:33
I've got a "Cool and Smart" idea to get anything implemented. To literally force Staff to change it. If somebody knows someone who works in FOX, he could just say to him to send an E-Mail here that (For example) "Faceless Drones", as our xenos are, is a big part in Alien universe and this makes us too similar.

Day one, day two and day three in changelog: "Xenos are no longer faceless" so xenomains *roar and "REEEEEE!".
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by Gnorse » 10 Oct 2018, 13:43

literally just have an option in the character setup screen to toggle showing your name on/off, and a field directly below it that allows a short combo of words/letters to use as a name.

but for the love of christ don't use Ckeys
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by carlarc » 10 Oct 2018, 14:09

Young Lurker (237) "Destroyer"

Mature Runner (292) "Shadow Death"
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Re: Which faction is the underdog now?

Post by CABAL » 10 Oct 2018, 14:22

MattAtlas wrote:
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what is this language
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Blade2000Br wrote:
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Jokes on you, we already are in contact the Fox Lawyer and so far he said everything is smooth here.
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