Troubling Trend in Battlefield Executions

[Vispain]

its not hard to not get BE'd lol

just dont do dumb shit in front of the CO or call them a soyboy. go planetside and banter all you want

if you get baited into a BE report it and you're gonna be the one BEing their whitelist

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"if you get baited into a BE report it and you're gonna be the one BEing their whitelist"

Going off of the above sentence structure and context I must assume you mean "if you get BE'd report it and then you're going to be the one BEing their whitelist."
or perhaps, 'if you bait a BE report it and then you're going to be the one BEing their whitelist."

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Either that or you messed up your sentence rather heavily … and likely intended to be referring to the baiters of BE's being reported.

So what is it.

[Survivor]

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They are trying to say that if a Commander puts you in a situation where you will get BE'd (Such as Cheng locking a survivor in the CIC and BEing them for not being his slave), then to report them.

[MattAtlas]

Double Post Warning

Clarify the,
"if you get baited into a BE report it and you're gonna be the one BEing their whitelist"

Going off of the above sentence structure and context I must assume you mean "if you get BE'd report it and then you're going to be the one BEing their whitelist."
or perhaps, 'if you bait a BE report it and then you're going to be the one BEing their whitelist."

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Either that or you messed up your sentence rather heavily … and likely intended to be referring to the baiters of BE's being reported.

So what is it.

"If you get baited into a BE" -> getting baited into a situation where by acting rationally you get BE'd
"report it" -> straightforward
"you're gonna be the one BEing their whitelist" -> also straightforward, literally just means they'll get their whitelist stripped

[Vispain]

"If you get baited into a BE" -> getting baited into a situation where by acting rationally you get BE'd
"report it" -> straightforward
"you're gonna be the one BEing their whitelist" -> also straightforward, literally just means they'll get their whitelist stripped

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. Not sure why it took me a bit long to absorb that... was reading the grammar in a wierd way.

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Ah. Oh. Wow.

[Vampmare]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. Not sure why it took me a bit long to absorb that... was reading the grammar in a wierd way.

But yeah, if a CO purposely baits a BE then sure...

From what I've seen it doesn't happen much it at all though.
Honestly, as a CO, baiting someone to BE isn't something I can conceive. I'm sure it's happened but I can't think of an off the top example.
Could I have one for reference?

Yeah, sure.

I just like to shoot people, so with the current rules in place, this is how you're gonna go.

You'll order something weird, or something you know the marines are likely not to follow. The marine will then not do it, you will then repeat this order, and of course they still don't follow it. This is now your moment to shine, shoot them. Failure to follow orders or sedition, whatever you want to staple them as.

/s

[Vispain]

Yeah, sure.

I just like to shoot people, so with the current rules in place, this is how you're gonna go.

You'll order something weird, or something you know the marines are likely not to follow. The marine will then not do it, you will then repeat this order, and of course they still don't follow it. This is now your moment to shine, shoot them. Failure to follow orders or sedition, whatever you want to staple them as.

/s

Ah.

The example Pierce gave was also good and helped

*editted my post too, but had to leave for a couple minutes so... yeah... failed to update it then and there.

[Enigmachine]

Ah, gotcha. Thanks. Not sure why it took me a bit long to absorb that... was reading the grammar in a wierd way.

Yeah it threw me too.

I doubt Cheng was trying to bait out that result, he just is that badly adjusted. Like how do you get so tilted at some chick telling you no that you blow their head off?

[Vispain]

Yeah it threw me too.

I doubt Cheng was trying to bait out that result, he just is that badly adjusted. Like how do you get so tilted at some chick telling you no that you blow their head off?

Pretty damn sad imo. I would've had a field day with trying to get the CO removed for incompetence/mental instability as a MP or CMP if I heard about that in that round.
Anyone know if a Provost Marshall showed up or if the MP Department did anything?

I would hope so considering it seems like common knowledge WHY he BE'd them. Then again, MPs aren't always the most intelligent in their reasoning and investigation.

[Troika]

The BE crap is why I rarely play marine. You never know when you will get one of the uber touchy COs who will spill someone's brains all over the bridge for not bringing them a cup of coffee.

[CABAL]

I like more "tyrant" CO's. After all those "Welcome happy marines, we are gonna beat our enemies, I hope for your cooperation... Oh... You didn't followed my orders? Well... I hope you did the right decision, no offense." I would like to get more Full Metal Jacket Drill Instructors (Or atleast Fallout 2 Arch Dornans). I want to feel like I'm in military where Commander don't owes his position to life time supply of vaseline.

By the recent month I only noticed one BE that was something concerning where a marine get that becouse he/she went back to Almayer to write a diary. How could a diary threat whole OP?

Every day I'm being brigged atleast once, yet I didn't get BE myself. You have to really piss off CO directly to get it and it's only one CO who has a lot to do outside BE'ing marines, unlike MP's which sole purpose is to brig marines and be lazy. Cabal asked you for hand labeler that is one screen away and you are just standing in one place? Threaten that you will brig him. He responded that you are not his mother? Brig motherfucker.

[adrenalinetooth]

Someone please tell or show me where this License To LRP that squad roles apparently get can be found, 'cause I've been missing out.

Seriously though, IRL Airmen First Class would NEVER do the kind of shit squad roles here have been doing, like what happened to Solid. 'Cause if they did, not only would the retribution be fierce, their fellow servicemen wouldn't have their backs. Not because IRL MP's are hulks, but because people with that kind of attitude get filtered the fuck out WAY before getting anywhere near a combat zone. Furthermore, unlike here, IRL military people think about what is gonna become of them AFTER the op. Here, you can pull shit that'd get someone DD'd (Dishonorably Discharged) like it's no biggie because you meta-know that you'll get to start fresh on the next round and behave like a sociopathic narcissist all over again.

This is the key factor to bad behaviour or just behaviour unbecoming of a marine in general within this game. People in this game act like dipshits because there is no court marshal waiting for them after the OP, a new round just starts. The only thing that could translate over to that in this video game is a ban.

[Renomaki]

This is the key factor to bad behaviour or just behaviour unbecoming of a marine in general within this game. People in this game act like dipshits because there is no court marshal waiting for them after the OP, a new round just starts. The only thing that could translate over to that in this video game is a ban.

A sad, sad reality that is all too true.

In a game of endless repeat, people will come to realize that nothing they do really matters in the end, so they just do whatever they please, knowing that in the end, they always got NEXT round to go at it again. Hence, things like law and the Chain of Command often are mocked because they know they can't do anything truly permanent unless staff get involved. Only THEN do they start trembling in their boots, but then that would just give the staff a bad name and hurt the server as a whole.

So until we can find another way to put people back in line, you are gonna have to accept that there are going to be people who just don't give a shit about being a proper marine.

[Dolth]

The main problem comes from the fact our server is LRP and murdering someone rather than locking them is the current credo. If the commander "feels the OP is threatened" then he can BE. As being "threatened" is a subjective feeling therefor the CO can use a whole wider specter of BE reason than if rules were objectively written.

If you want BE to be proper, accurate, and MRP at least; then do BE only someone WHO CARRIES A MALICIOUS INTENTION and present AN IMMEDIATE THREAT. Or if there are no MP but that's more of a gameplay issue.

- My SO shot an OB who killed 10 marines therefor I think he is a threat to the mission. *Shoots in the head*
NOT A LEGIT BE.

- My SO doesn't want to shoot at this exact moment and if he doesn't our mission will fail.
LEGIT BE. (Though I highly encourage CO to carry a flash, just like the CMO, to adapt to those situations and NO you won't be shot back by the SO unless he querries for an impropper escal ban/warn.)

And I can shit examples of those all day long. Now if you're aiming for the head then you're a complete dick because the mateba will decap and that IS NOT NECESSARY. Kill the cunt . Cuff him. Revive him. Have the MP charge him and demotion follows into a CT or MT or anything else, fuck I know.

And to those saying they can't be bothered to deal with those people longer or have the MP deal with them in perma. You are the blight and the reason this server is LRP. Yes, you recognized yourself.

Anyway I feel my BE thread did the opposite effect I wanted.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

This is the key factor to bad behaviour or just behaviour unbecoming of a marine in general within this game. People in this game act like dipshits because there is no court marshal waiting for them after the OP, a new round just starts. The only thing that could translate over to that in this video game is a ban.

This is the best summary of what i think is wrong with the USCM I've ever seen.

[Dolth]

Please can we change the BE ruke to something actually MRP aka :

"CO can BE when he feels the mission is threatened"
To
"CO can BE when he feels the mission is IMMEDIATELY threatened AND CANNOT neutralize the said person"