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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Jroinc1 » 19 May 2016, 22:19

Yeah. I try to get a full set, but often the CMO won't order another set, so I print mine and use a screwdriver and wrench as my bonegel/bonesetter so I can go take over the hanger medbay.
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Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 29 May 2016, 23:25

Added 'Iron Bear B Gone' and 'Annoying Marine B Gone' to the recipes.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Fritigern » 31 May 2016, 04:14

Wait, does spacecillion actually halt larval development? Saw it mentioned in the guide a few times but it seems uncertain, someone have a hard fact on that because it'd be incredibly useful if it did.

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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Derpislav » 31 May 2016, 04:32

It doesn't.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 31 May 2016, 05:44

I said it might slow the process but I wasn't sure.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 09 Jun 2016, 19:37

Updated name of Iron Bear B Gone to Pred B Gone in light of its hilariously lethal effects on Predators which are generally more annoying than Iron Bears.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 28 Jun 2016, 12:59

Added section on cloning.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 01 Jul 2016, 13:04

Added to misc tips; added 'Omniheal' formula.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 10 Jul 2016, 12:24

Updated OP with mention of QuickClot
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 10 Jul 2016, 13:33

Added note concerning Medbot usage in Miscellaneous tips.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 16 Oct 2016, 20:23

Added process for minting Omniheal pills quickly.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 19 Oct 2016, 06:01

Adjusted Cryomix to account for the insane, Novichok agent like lethality of QuikClot ODs at 2U.

Also added detailed information about how Cryomix chems are applied to patients.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 02 Nov 2016, 20:42

Experimenting with a new ASSBLAST U-S-A combat drug/stim recipe; shorter synaptizine and pain killer duration in exchange for significantly higher pain resistance (nearly on par with Oxycodone); also capable of being minted slightly faster:

V3: 5x Synaptizine, 10x Tramadol, 10x Paracetamol, 20x Hyperzine, 75x Dylovene (4 pill batch)
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by DesFrSpace » 04 Nov 2016, 20:39

Surrealistik wrote:Experimenting with a new ASSBLAST U-S-A combat drug/stim recipe; shorter synaptizine and pain killer duration in exchange for significantly higher pain resistance (nearly on par with Oxycodone); also capable of being minted slightly faster:

V3: 5x Synaptizine, 10x Tramadol, 10x Paracetamol, 20x Hyperzine, 75x Dylovene (4 pill batch)
Awesome and I like it, too much chem though, I would stay from using it, and hope it not nerf or touched, because that some serious drug, might as well killed a Marine, instead of FF. Look forward to more of your discovery "Surrealistik.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Jroinc1 » 05 Nov 2016, 10:55

DesFrSpace wrote:Awesome and I like it, too much chem though, I would stay from using it, and hope it not nerf or touched, because that some serious drug, might as well killed a Marine, instead of FF. Look forward to more of your discovery "Surrealistik.
Nah, that recipe's actually safe. Weirdly enough for something HE made, though :D

EDIT- That was a jest. All of Sur's chems are safe... for the user.
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Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 05 Nov 2016, 15:06

All of my drug recipes are perfectly safe if used as directed (except for the ones intended to kill... but that's the idea)! I of course cannot be held accountable for Baldie Blindness from any misuse of drugs with clearly labeled instructions.

The combat drugs unfortunately have unavoidable side effects like minor toxin (after all Dylovene is metabolized) and heart damage; the former is easily treated, and the latter is also easily treated if MedSci supplied Medics with Peridaxon.


Also, speaking of which, a 'new' simple recipe:

100U Peridaxon, 20U Dexalin Plus (20 pill batch; 5 Peridaxon, 1 Dexalin Plus per pill)

Quick, dirty and not quite optimal but it does the job and is capable of being minted VERY fast, which is its main (only) advantage over more complex formulas like PeriDexaClotTricordrazineadol; with the Bluespace you can easily make 40 pills per Chem Master use. 5 such uses should provide more than enough Peridexalin Plus to last the entire round (200 pills divided between 14 bottles). It should be easily possible to flood Medics with this before they deploy. Use of Inaprovaline bottles from the MedVend, existing beakers of Cryoaxadone and Dexalin Pills from the suffocation medikits are necessary to economize on chem charge use.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Jroinc1 » 05 Nov 2016, 19:01

Any reason why you don't replace some of the tricord with bicard in the omniheal formula?
You'll get more overall and spike healing for most wounds, even if you'll lose some duration from it, and it's easy enough to make.

Eh, you know what, I'm just gonna leave these here for you to use, if you wish. I'm a very mobility-focused doc, and I dislike using cryo (too easy to just toss someone in and forget about him/have him bleed out due to quick-clot leaving an external wound/not being able to move it with you if medbay's overrun).

Personally, I have 4 labeled hypos on me at all times, loaded as listed below. These, plus the full loadout I usually carry, allow me to perform any medical procedure, barring cloning, on the run.
I don't like pills because it takes fumbling one out of a bottle, then a delay while you feed it, while a hypo's a 2-click insta-inject. The upside's instant treatment of literally any condition. The downside to my approach is that I usually end up with 13-14 bottles on my CLB, and the aforementioned hypos that I constantly have to keep topped off, plus low dosages, unless I spam-inject. It also takes a while to set up, but not that much power.
I also don't add QC to any meds. Personal failing, b/c of how long it takes to get out of dispensers.

Healmix-20u bicard, 20u tricord, 10u dex+, 10u tramadol- Basically the optimal mix for our server, and absurdly powerful at stabilizing due to the dex+, though in most cases, you gotta piledrive at least half the hypo before they have enough to deal with more than scratch damage (but REAL good at dosing controls, and designed that dumping 30u into an untreated 'rine, OR one with a single tricord hypo won't cause an overdose, so safe to use!). The most difficult to make, but can be made RELATIVELY simply in 300u batches. Probably the 3rd iteration of this drug, and could be made into pills easily enough.

1. Borrow/steal the bluespace beaker. Dump in 2 bottles of inaprov and one of anti-tox. Add 60u carbon. Place in backpack.
2. Run and get 2 dex pills. Add 20u carbon, and 20u iron to a REGULAR, 60u beaker, then dump both pills into the beaker. Due to 60u beaker limit, you'll be left with 60u if dex+. Dump it into the bluespace beaker.
3. Make 6 bottles with 50u each, proportions as given up top, except no tramadol.
4. Get a bottle of tramadol pills, dissolve one in each bottle.
360u done, and only uses 10 power and requires 4 steps. The most difficult part is honestly making the 6 bottles due to chemmaster limits (Can only store 120u in buffer, get ready to press buttons repeatedly).

*Fill your hypo, head to the Rasputin, amaze everyone by dealing with the 6 critical marines before they can even be dragged off to medbay.*

Burnmix- 30u dermaline, 30u kelotane- Marginal utility, but there are 3 main damage types, and easy to prepare, so... yeah. First gen, no real benefits to upgrading.

1. Grab a 120u beaker, fill it with 20u phosphorous, and 20u oxygen.
2. Grab a kelotane pill bottle, dissolve pills till the bottle's full.
Makes 120u (2 bottles), costs 4 power and 2 steps. Simple, not much to say, deliberately does not contain tricord for ease of prep, and my healmix has tricord.

*Fill and label a hypo, forget about it till the boiler comes knocking.*

Antitox+ -40u antitox, 20u spacacillin- A staple against toxic wounds and for surgery. Give EVERYONE you do surgery on 2-3 jabs, and you never need to worry about infection. Be careful with abusing it, though, as spaceacillin stays around for a while (Safe, unless someone else is dropping pills down his throat). Also criminally easy to make. 5th gen. My first attempt was a 1/1/1/1 mix of spaceacillin, antitox, hyperzine, and SYNAPTIZINE. You can guess how well that went over... don't know WHY I used the synap...

1. Grab the bluespace beaker. Dump 2 antitox bottles in.
2. Grab a antibiotic pill bottle, dump 60u worth of pills in. You're done.
Makes 180u (3 bottles), costs ZERO power, and 2 steps. Literally free, and pretty self-descriptive. Also deliberately does not contain tricord, same reasons.

*Fill your hypo, forget about it till you run out after like 12 surgeries, realize it's the silent hero.*

Perdiox- 60u perdiox (PREETY SIMPLE, RIGHT?)- Yeah. With the previous recipe, you should have enough to give ANYONE a single jab if they have damage, before they mention anything. A staple of the FOB doctor, as scanning facilities and surgery time are very limited down there. Technically 2nd gen, but it's a BASE chem, so yeah.

1. Get the bluespace beaker, 2 dex pills, 20u of water from the sink, 20u oxygen from the dispenser, and 60u sodium from the dispenser. Combine.
2. Remove excess dexalin via chemmaster.
3. Grind plasma into bluespace beaker (2 sheets if possible, but you can get by with one). Put bluespace beaker in backpack.
4. Mix 120u bicard in a REGULAR large beaker from a 60u inaprov bottle, and 60u carbon .
5. Dump the REGULAR beaker INTO the bluespace beaker.
Makes 120u (2 bottles), costs 14 power, slightly larger step list for clarity. Hit ANYONE with broken bones/ UNEXPLAINED DAMAGE with a single jab.

*Run into medbay as the other guys are struggling to deal with 14 casualties with broken chests, treat ALL the organ damage within 20 seconds and 2 refills.*


Full prep of one batch of all of these costs 28 power, and takes about 10-15 min, most for the perdiox/healmix.
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Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Surrealistik » 06 Nov 2016, 00:06

Jroinc1 wrote:Any reason why you don't replace some of the tricord with bicard in the omniheal formula?

You'll get more overall and spike healing for most wounds, even if you'll lose some duration from it, and it's easy enough to make.
Yes; Bicard takes much more chem charge even with MedVend Inaprovaline (Tricord requires none).
Eh, you know what, I'm just gonna leave these here for you to use, if you wish. I'm a very mobility-focused doc, and I dislike using cryo (too easy to just toss someone in and forget about him/have him bleed out due to quick-clot leaving an external wound/not being able to move it with you if medbay's overrun).
I have literally never had an issue with bleed out. The other chems heal up the patient to full and it just doesn't happen.
Personally, I have 4 labeled hypos on me at all times, loaded as listed below.
The only Hypos I find to be a real time saver in practice are Peridaxon and Spaceacillin (and the former I don't need as much if I'm not planetside; it's also become less valuable with chest and head splinting) or a combination thereof. One 5U injection is more than sufficient for any surgery. I sometimes rock an anesthetic hypospray, but that's generally if I'm expecting to deal with assholes. Medics usually handle stabilization, and tbh, I'm not too miffed if they fail to and someone dies as a result because they just go in the cloner, and it's usually more time efficient for me than healing all their various wounds and fractures. For any injury that doesn't require surgery or Peridaxon, 30 U from Tricord autoinjectors suffices.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

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Updated.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

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Updated.
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Post by Jroinc1 » 20 Nov 2016, 10:43

Surrealistik wrote:Snip
The chained perdiox is real clever.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by Derpislav » 20 Nov 2016, 12:28

Jroinc1 wrote:The chained perdiox is real clever.
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by InterroLouis » 20 Nov 2016, 12:47

I was using them last night and ended up constantly searching for the peridaxon pills you handed out earlier in the round than the fast blast...but they were all in the hands of random standards. Not a single medic had any. The peri in the fast blast wasn't enough to keep up with the heart damage.

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Post by Surrealistik » 20 Nov 2016, 13:19

Jroinc1 wrote:The chained perdiox is real clever.
I considered it previously, but it never came up as an issue since I always _flooded_ the battlefield with Peridex+ (we're talking 10-14+ full bottles minted before deployment), and had concerns with the minting time and chem cost. When I sat down to properly formulate it though, those concerns proved somewhat exaggerated. Beyond that, Derp, Interro and others have brought to my attention that the Peridex+ isn't always getting where it's needed, which provided the onus to do so.

InterroLouis wrote:I was using them last night and ended up constantly searching for the peridaxon pills you handed out earlier in the round than the fast blast...but they were all in the hands of random standards. Not a single medic had any. The peri in the fast blast wasn't enough to keep up with the heart damage.
I haven't yet rolled out the newer version (fASSter blast).
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Re: [ALPHA] How Not to Suck at CMO

Post by InterroLouis » 20 Nov 2016, 13:21

Ahhh. I guess the real problem then, is the fact that not a single medic took any of the peri you had rolled out. We even found a completely full bottle of it on a dead STANDARD marine in the hive.

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