A question about marriage...

[XenonDragneel]

You gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere dude.
Friendships are fine, yeah.
That's your girlfriend? Yeah, alright. Hope you're willing to leave her behind.
Banter and Sanctum? Sure, makes some IC sense.
Marriages? Nah. That's just gonna invite a whole bunch of nonsense.

Right, lmao

[Lostmixup]

Having no marriages just fits in better with the theme of CM honestly.

[apophis775]

You gotta draw a line in the sand somewhere dude.
Friendships are fine, yeah.
That's your girlfriend? Yeah, alright. Hope you're willing to leave her behind.
Banter and Sanctum? Sure, makes some IC sense.
Marriages? Nah. That's just gonna invite a whole bunch of nonsense.

This is my thinking.

We are Medium RP with a focus on TACTICAL ACTION, not Dating Station 13. If people are like "She's my girlfriend" so long as they aren't doing anything silly it's fine. But IRL, you would NEVER have a married couple on the same ship or unit, and DEFINITELY not deployed together.

[KeyWii]

Having no marriages just fits in better with the theme of CM honestly.

[Azmodan412]

[XenonDragneel]

A lot of people already married in-game. They should start changing their last name. Girlfriend is alright as long if they aren't doing anything sexually or kissing or touching or anything like that... Kinda like making marines getting distracted.

[Ricky10121]

I think people should not get married on cm just note to fact that is does take away the meaning and way cm is supposed to be.

[Daisuke08]

There's no real difference if someone RPs being married or if they're just going out. If someone's gonna grief because of it, then they're a griefer at heart and would've come up with a way to grief regardless at some point. That has to do with them as a person, not the in-game reason. You know not to grief, you know it's not okay, so if someone comes up with a reason to grief, banned the reason doesn't solve anything. Friendships are fine and relationships are okay, the RP can be fun for people. Banning it is pretty much just a "no fun allowed" rule, there's no actual reason for it as it doesn't harm the game.

[AssassinT90]

At this point, the military started enforcing the separation of family policy. I do not know if this is particularly relevant in this case, since it is Navy, but the same premise. Family members can not serve together and here I wrap up my post.

Err... Nope, nope, and nope. Not for married couples without children, anyway:

http://www.stripes.com/news/my-dusty-va ... d-1.267629
http://www.military.com/spouse/relation ... yment.html
http://www.army.mil/article/109153/Marr ... _together/
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/0 ... 49873.html
http://usmilitary.about.com/od/familydo ... ouples.htm
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/inde ... 635AAsx3Rt

Oh, yes, hello there, Apophis.

We are Medium RP with a focus on TACTICAL ACTION, not Dating Station 13. If people are like "She's my girlfriend" so long as they aren't doing anything silly it's fine. But IRL, you would NEVER have a married couple on the same ship or unit, and DEFINITELY not deployed together.

[Jack McIntyre]

I believe this was already settled with the new rp rules apop is adding so....yea.

[Artyom]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umDr0mPuyQc

If it was up to me I would ban all bf/gf relationships from the game. The thought of people being married WHILE THEY ARE FIGHTING ALIENS is absolutely absurd.
This is a military vessel, not fucking Baystation. This is going to eventually lead to people wanting to ERP because they're married.

But I'm banned, so, whatever.

[AssassinT90]

MARRIAGES ARE NOT ALLOWED, AND THAT WILL NOT CHANGE.

From apophis' link on how to be a better roleplayer:

THREE. Don’t try to stop things.
Negating another player’s actions is fairly useless play; it takes two possible story-changing elements and whacks them against each other so hard that neither of them works. For example, your fighter wants to punch some jerk, but your monk’s against it, so he grabs the fighter’s hand. In game terms, nothing’s happened. All you’ve done is waste time, and we don’t have infinite supplies of that.

Instead, go with the flow. Build. If the fighter wants to break someone’s nose, what happens after that? Does your monk rush to help the jerk up? To admonish the fighter? To apologise to the jerk’s friends, before shit really kicks off? To save the fighter in the big brawl that ensues, even though he was going against your will? Or to throw the biggest guy in the tavern right at him, to really teach him a lesson? Those are all examples of interesting stories. Stopping him from doing anything whatsoever isn’t.

Don’t negate, extrapolate. (See, that rhymes, so it’s easier to remember)

(...)“My character wouldn’t do that” is a boring excuse, a massive NO to the game’s story on a fundamental level. It’s a point-blank refusal to participate.

Forbidding marine marriages is a case of negation, a case of "but they wouldn't do that". You're denying two players a relationship, you're denying a great opportunity for storytelling (which is the heart and soul of roleplay), and you're basically forcing people to interact with complete unknowns.

I will let you into a secret: marines don't give a flying fuck about another unknown marine dying or being face-rapped. They don't. Just like you don't care about an unknown person being murdered a hundred miles away from the city you live in. That's just how human beings work: you don't have empathy for someone until you get close to them.

And when you deny marines a relationship, you get what we currently have on CM: half the marines ignoring orders and going AWOL because they just DON'T CARE about anything or anyone else.

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And no, I don't expect the RP policies to change because of this post; rather, my intent is to point out that, ironically, the new RP policies will be restricting roleplay instead of encouraging it.

[Artyom]

From apophis' link on how to be a better roleplayer:
Forbidding marine marriages is a case of negation, a case of "but they wouldn't do that". You're denying two players a relationship, you're denying a great opportunity for storytelling (which is the heart and soul of roleplay), and you're basically forcing people to interact with complete unknowns.

I will let you into a secret: marines don't give a flying fuck about another unknown marine dying or being face-rapped. They don't. Just like you don't care about an unknown person being murdered a hundred miles away from the city you live in. That's just how human beings work: you don't have empathy for someone until you get close to them.

And when you deny marines a relationship, you get what we currently have on CM: half the marines ignoring orders and going AWOL because they just DON'T CARE about anything or anyone else.

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And no, I don't expect the RP policies to change because of this post; rather, my intent is to point out that, ironically, the new RP policies will be restricting roleplay instead of encouraging it.

except you can have relationships without getting married

[AssassinT90]

except you can have relationships without getting married

Preventing people from roleplaying a married relationship is still negating a possibility of great storytelling for no good reason.

And while you can have a relationship without getting married, I highly doubt anyone would roleplay as well as two players roleplaying a married marine couple.

But, err, as Terry Pratchett once said, "stories of imagination tend to upset those without one." I guess the same applies to love relationships.

[apophis775]

Do you see the vote?

The community already decided.

NO marriages. It's unrealistic and doesn't fit with our theme.

If you want a marriage, there are many servers that will cater to that, and even let you ERP. We are not one of them.

[Artyom]

Preventing people from roleplaying a married relationship is still negating a possibility of great storytelling for no good reason.

And while you can have a relationship without getting married, I highly doubt anyone would roleplay as well as two players roleplaying a married marine couple.

But, err, as Terry Pratchett once said, "stories of imagination tend to upset those without one." I guess the same applies to love relationships.

So by that logic preventing marines from having sex with aliens is negating a possibility for great storytelling too?

The reason marines being married is prevented is because it's unrealistic and dumb, as no military unit would ever allow that. Much less being girlfriend or boyfriend.
And it could also lead to stupid decisions if one of the two were in any command position, "recall that whole squad i dont want my loved one dying!!!"

[Lostmixup]

Do you see the vote?

The community already decided.

NO marriages. It's unrealistic and doesn't fit with our theme.

If you want a marriage, there are many servers that will cater to that, and even let you ERP. We are not one of them.

Just lock the damn topic apop.

[apophis775]

Fine, locked.

[Lostmixup]

Moved.