"Little" explosives revamp.

[MrGabol100]

Hush boy. *takes out syringe of sopoforic* Come here... *trips and injects himself, soon falling asleep*

*Mad world starts playing*

[DernSquirrels^3]

Toro, I don't know what your malfunction is, but stop being such a passive-aggressive asshole.

As for the suggestion:

Impact Grenades:

Kinda split on this. Maybe have them as an orderable item from cargo, but I don't think they should replace HE grenades entirely.

Beacon Radio:

Wasn't the idea of giving squad leaders binocs that could 'paint' targets for orbital strikes/supply drops in discussion, or am I just crazy?

Incendiary grenades:

I'm surprised they don't set aliens on fire already.

+1

[Toroic]

Toro, I don't know what your malfunction is, but stop being such a passive-aggressive asshole.

As for the suggestion:

Impact Grenades:

Kinda split on this. Maybe have them as an orderable item from cargo, but I don't think they should replace HE grenades entirely.

Beacon Radio:

Wasn't the idea of giving squad leaders binocs that could 'paint' targets for orbital strikes/supply drops in discussion, or am I just crazy?

Incendiary grenades:

I'm surprised they don't set aliens on fire already.

+1

I'll have you know that I was not being passive at all.

Yes, I checked your post history, you're new to the game, a generic player that plays marine but supports aliens on the forums, makes stupid suggestions, starts flame wars, and thinks he's better than anyone because he donated, wanna pull the shit? Let's pull the shit, but this is a suggestion, so take your shit that has been pulled to another fucking place.

Why do I think I know more than you about grenade mechanics? Well, because I've played here for way longer than you, and I every single bit of the gameplay mechanics, how they work, and how people react to them, and grenades are useless as fuck in general combat.

Now go insult someone else.

Admittedly, I've only played CM for three months, and ss13 for 6.

I actually play xeno 90% of the time. To be fair, you had a 50/50 shot.

You certainly have played longer, but your inability to use grenades effectively would suggest that your additional time didn't help you much.

[MrGabol100]

-Snip-

Marine players are saying that the grenades aren't useful, alien players are saying they are, so the buff is not applied, I actually do rarely use the grenades, blaming that the grenades are useless on MY game style and saying I do not know how to fight in this game based on what I'm saying kinda reveals that you haven't ever used a fucking grenade in the game, you're only giving your negative support to insult me and basically try to remove marine buffs.

Appart from being a toxic player and showing intentions of superiority, here and in the mini-chat, while flaming, shows off that you also don't really know what you're talking about at all.

And please, use damned snips to quote all these messages.

[Toroic]

Marine players are saying that the grenades aren't useful, alien players are saying they are, so the buff is not applied, I actually do rarely use the grenades, blaming that the grenades are useless on MY game style and saying I do not know how to fight in this game based on what I'm saying kinda reveals that you haven't ever used a fucking grenade in the game, you're only giving your negative support to insult me and basically try to remove marine buffs.

Appart from being a toxic player and showing intentions of superiority, here and in the mini-chat, while flaming, shows off that you also don't really know what you're talking about at all.

And please, use damned snips to quote all these messages.

Up until my last post you thought I was a marine-only player, and I'm against buffs for both sides at this point.

Unless you were capable of convincing me this idea would be worth shifting things to the marine side, I'm going to stay at -1 for this idea.

[UnknownMurder]

Just when I had check this again several hours later... Torioc insults another player whom just told him to insult him, real mature. Your actions tells me you are trying too hard and obviously aggressively against this suggestion. This has become a debate war.


Let's get serious. For once, why don't you look from our perspective? You claim to think we are inexperienced with handling grenades? You are wrong, VERY WRONG, my friend. Had the lag, we have being experiencing, obstruct us during cooking of grenade. Marine will blow up along with marines, secondly judging from your profile picture you must be an alien-side player. Thirdly, our spans in Colonial Marines does not matters, and even if it did, I have been here for year and 2 months. Now, for the buffs you've complain, both sides always gets buff. There are no true balance, what you see is an imperfect balance as said by Apophis. You have a Crusher for a reason, immunity to explosions. Either you're not using the Crusher, or team are just stupid to charge at Rocket Launcher a with a Drone.

Now, that being said. There are always pros and cons. Cons can outweigh the Pro. Pro can outweigh Cons.

Now, I'm going to say this. Stop the insult and that attitude of yours. It won't do good for you. Turn back, don't talk. I'm giving you this last chance. Don't blow this chance, Torioc. They will roast you, they will. You already made your case clear. Don't bother making a sarcastic post to inform us you're leaving. This is a request coming from me. Take it.

[Toroic]

This has become a debate war.

The purpose of this forum is to discuss the merits of the suggestion presented.

Let's get serious. For once, why don't you look from our perspective?

I understand your and Gabol's perspective. You think buffing marine grenades is a good idea.

You claim to think we are inexperienced with handling grenades? You are wrong, VERY WRONG, my friend.

I don't think either of you are inexperienced with grenades, I think you are unskilled with them.

Had the lag, we have being experiencing, obstruct us during cooking of grenade.

We all deal with lag, all the time. This is not an issue unique to grenades.

Secondly judging from your profile picture you must be an alien-side player.

I have made no attempt to hide that I play xenos most of the time. But I also -1 xeno buffs just as often, and was highly supportive of xenos no longer being allowed to breach.

Thirdly, our spans in Colonial Marines does not matters

Agreed.

Now, for the buffs you've complain, both sides always gets buff. There are no true balance, what you see is an imperfect balance as said by Apophis. You have a Crusher for a reason, immunity to explosions. Either you're not using the Crusher, or team are just stupid to charge at Rocket Launcher a with a Drone.

We're not talking about the SADAR in this thread, we're talking about grenades.

Now, that being said. There are always pros and cons. Cons can outweigh the Pro. Pro can outweigh Cons.

This isn't false, though it is redundant.

Now, I'm going to say this. Stop the insult and that attitude of yours. It won't do good for you. Turn back, don't talk. I'm giving you this last chance. Don't blow this chance, Torioc. They will roast you, they will. You already made your case clear. Don't bother making a sarcastic post to inform us you're leaving. This is a request coming from me. Take it.

I'm not entirely sure what this was supposed to communicate, but what I can gather is that it is about my salt towards Gabol, and me lumping you in with him. I can personally assure you that I am currently perfectly calm, and prepared to listen to whatever argument you have for further buffs for marines as their win ratio continues to climb.

[apophis775]

Denied, everyone is insulting each other and bitching. Not going to read through it cause if I do, everyone would be getting warning.