Gameplay Discussion: Predators

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by MrJJJ » 18 Jul 2016, 02:06

Boltersam wrote: With machetes, you can keep hitting a Predator and it will knock them out, leaving them defenceless, if a marine keeps hitting the KO'd predator with the machete, it will kill them, there is no way for the Predator to defend themselves.
Yeah...no, seems like you forgot your own report
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around 10 hits, nope, still able to get up and shoot plasma, despite the KO's as stated later by said predator

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by doodeeda » 18 Jul 2016, 03:46

If predators were there solely to RP, then why not give them the big stats. But, duels and killing are still being done, and if you choose to fight (and take someone out of the round) then you should choose to do so with comparative stats as a strong T3 xeno. Heck, I'd be willing to play as a nerfed predator as a test bunny if I'm accepted.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Boltersam » 18 Jul 2016, 09:19

MrJJJ wrote: Yeah...no, seems like you forgot your own report
https://i.gyazo.com/e906c071775694dfcbc ... 629373.png
around 10 hits, nope, still able to get up and shoot plasma, despite the KO's as stated later by said predator
Oh, that's because Hayter wasn't an arse so he didn't keep hitting the Predator when he was down, stunlocking him.
And if there weren't any KOs, then it's possible they only happen when striking the head.

Seems like you never saw a Predator fighting Isaac Miller in melee.

I'm looking at you Isaac

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Renomaki » 30 Jul 2016, 00:16

Oh, how I yearn to become a predator one of these days..

A shame there isn't a lot of info about them, meaning first time players are going to struggle to understand all their tools.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Boltersam » 31 Jul 2016, 19:15

Renomaki wrote:Oh, how I yearn to become a predator one of these days..

A shame there isn't a lot of info about them, meaning first time players are going to struggle to understand all their tools.

There's a section on the forums called The Hunt. It has most of our info on one of the threads.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Renomaki » 01 Aug 2016, 00:50

Boltersam wrote:
There's a section on the forums called The Hunt. It has most of our info on one of the threads.
I'm guessing whitelisted only? Cuz I can't find it.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Topwaza » 01 Aug 2016, 01:08

If it were only up to me, I'd make preds a little harder to play, powerful, but only in short bursts. I'd make cloaking and most abilities dependent on an energy system, and more of an emphasis on maneuverability over being tanky.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Boltersam » 01 Aug 2016, 04:32

Renomaki wrote: I'm guessing whitelisted only? Cuz I can't find it.
No. It's public. viewforum.php?f=137

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by doodeeda » 01 Aug 2016, 04:42

Boltersam wrote:No. It's public. viewforum.php?f=137
Can't view it.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Renomaki » 01 Aug 2016, 11:28

doodeeda wrote: Can't view it.
Quite understandable, really, since it probably has some sensitive intel that people could metagame with.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Boltersam » 01 Aug 2016, 11:58

Renomaki wrote: Quite understandable, really, since it probably has some sensitive intel that people could metagame with.
The only way to make only Whitelisted be able to access it would be to put little snowflake titles under our names, we had a discussion with Apop about it, who in turn had a discussion with headstaff, and they said it was going to be a public forum. Strange.

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Post by Feweh » 01 Aug 2016, 12:57

Boltersam wrote: The only way to make only Whitelisted be able to access it would be to put little snowflake titles under our names, we had a discussion with Apop about it, who in turn had a discussion with headstaff, and they said it was going to be a public forum. Strange.
Youre in a hidden snowflake group that doesnt show up.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by ShortTemperedLeprechaun » 01 Aug 2016, 13:13

Feweh wrote: Youre in a hidden snowflake group that doesnt show up.
We are the snowflakiest of the snowflakes. Now we just need predators with floor length braid hair, and we'll be sooper dooper snowflakes.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by ParadoxSpace » 08 Aug 2016, 08:10

ShortTemperedLeprechaun wrote: We are the snowflakiest of the snowflakes. Now we just need predators with floor length braid hair, and we'll be sooper dooper snowflakes.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Iatots » 10 Aug 2016, 15:39

Alright so the "last name" of a pred is his clan right? People who want a clan surname already in use have to ask a member if they can "join" the clan.

But I am seeing predators of different clans play house! I was expecting some rivalry RP, maybe "oh you guys here too?" at the most if they were on good terms, yet I see individuals who all act as brothers, sometimes even talking about ""The Clan"" as if only 1 existed and everyone is part of it.
I haven't seen anyone actually HUNT together, but this still feels a bit too tightly knit to me.

Sometimes there is an elder around, and I realize predators would gravitate around better hunters, but I have seen this happen in rounds void of their presence, and between what I would call "equally experienced" predators.

And just to point some fingers around:
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Sarah_U. » 10 Aug 2016, 19:00

Tbh I unchecked the round-start pred draft since I was ALWAYS getting picked and I was generally one of the few people that kept constantly getting it. I hate doing the same role over and over and I varry my play while sticking to what my app says... So yea, I did get drafted a lot, but much less lately.

Also, I never get the other roles I'm trying to get drafted for so yea.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by forwardslashN » 10 Aug 2016, 19:06

Iatots wrote:Alright so the "last name" of a pred is his clan right? People who want a clan surname already in use have to ask a member if they can "join" the clan.

But I am seeing predators of different clans play house! I was expecting some rivalry RP, maybe "oh you guys here too?" at the most if they were on good terms, yet I see individuals who all act as brothers, sometimes even talking about ""The Clan"" as if only 1 existed and everyone is part of it.
I haven't seen anyone actually HUNT together, but this still feels a bit too tightly knit to me.

Sometimes there is an elder around, and I realize predators would gravitate around better hunters, but I have seen this happen in rounds void of their presence, and between what I would call "equally experienced" predators.

And just to point some fingers around:
The thing about their last names isn't really a hard rule. It can be one's clan or some other designation, not really that important. The one thing that does bother me about playing pred is that everyone is from a different clan as a character, when lore predators Hunt as a single clan. You wouldn't normally see like five snowflakes from different clans on a mystical adventure to some boondocks planet just to hunt some xenomorphs. It would be a clan outing or some other relevant test of skill. So it makes sense for preds to be tightly knit, because that's really how they should be relating to one another, on the other hand it's very bizarre. I think it would be overall a more coherent experience if we just rolled all predators into a single clan and went with that.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Boltersam » 11 Aug 2016, 08:20

Iatots wrote:Alright so the "last name" of a pred is his clan right? People who want a clan surname already in use have to ask a member if they can "join" the clan.

But I am seeing predators of different clans play house! I was expecting some rivalry RP, maybe "oh you guys here too?" at the most if they were on good terms, yet I see individuals who all act as brothers, sometimes even talking about ""The Clan"" as if only 1 existed and everyone is part of it.
I haven't seen anyone actually HUNT together, but this still feels a bit too tightly knit to me.

Sometimes there is an elder around, and I realize predators would gravitate around better hunters, but I have seen this happen in rounds void of their presence, and between what I would call "equally experienced" predators.

And just to point some fingers around:

I don't know about you

But if somebody had their entire clan absolutely destroyed, with only shreds of it remaining,

Pretty sure they wouldn't go around insulting anyone. Having someone's clan destroyed is also something a Predator wouldn't wish on any, even the worst of rivals, so Dhi would be more the target of pity than anything else.

I've never said "The Clan", I've always said "My Clan", "Your Clan", I don't know where you pulled that from, since all of the people I've played with have referred to our clans as separate.

As for close relationships between individuals, there's only one that Dhi has actively interacted with and become close with, and that was because they spoke several times after he arrived on the ship, and because of them reminding him of someone from his stories, which you can find in the art and stories section.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by SecretStamos (Joshuu) » 11 Aug 2016, 08:59

I'd be down for saying we all belong to some overarching clan. I think it would help strengthen the bond between Predators a bit.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Fritigern » 11 Aug 2016, 09:33

SecretStamos (Joshuu) wrote:I'd be down for saying we all belong to some overarching clan. I think it would help strengthen the bond between Predators a bit.
It opens up good story ideas, something we don't really have a lot of which is funny since it's supposed to be an RP server.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Iatots » 11 Aug 2016, 19:57

Now that makes me wonder, if two predator players who didn't really talk before the hunting befriend eachother to a certain point, is there any rule against one of them joining the others clan, changing its last name in the process? Of course, admins would be contacted in the process.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by northcote4 » 15 Aug 2016, 19:27

Iatots wrote:Now that makes me wonder, if two predator players who didn't really talk before the hunting befriend eachother to a certain point, is there any rule against one of them joining the others clan, changing its last name in the process? Of course, admins would be contacted in the process.
While I definitely can't speak on behalf of staff, nor the predator community as a whole, that definitely seems like it would be a very significant decision for a predator to make. Abandoning one's clan to join another, even if their own was annihilated (perhaps even especially so).

After all, in doing so are they not abandoning their heritage? And as we all know, honour is paramount to the yautka's way of life.
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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by ParadoxSpace » 25 Aug 2016, 15:56

there needs to be a tighter grip on metagaming the honor code
'yes this guy with a sword is here killing people I'll put away my weapon and he won't bother me, fuck defending myself'

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by EMT_321 » 25 Aug 2016, 18:53

ParadoxSpace wrote:there needs to be a tighter grip on metagaming the honor code
'yes this guy with a sword is here killing people I'll put away my weapon and he won't bother me, fuck defending myself'
I've been legtrapped/captured without having a weapon as a medic, so thats evidently not a valid strategy.

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Re: Gameplay Discussion: Predators

Post by Iatots » 26 Aug 2016, 05:55

ParadoxSpace wrote:there needs to be a tighter grip on metagaming the honor code
'yes this guy with a sword is here killing people I'll put away my weapon and he won't bother me, fuck defending myself'
I agree wholeheartedly.
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