Replacer for Cloning

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by Mitchs98 » 22 Apr 2016, 13:27

SPACEpotato1 wrote: Seriously? You're telling me a 45 minute timer which can revive corpses which have been decapitated isn't remotely over-powered at all?
Considering it takes aliens minimal effort to decap every marine they see and put them out of the round permanently when cloning is removed/if it is? No, not whatsoever.

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by SPACEpotato1 » 22 Apr 2016, 14:13

Considering it takes aliens minimal effort to decap every marine they see and put them out of the round permanently when cloning is removed/if it is? No, not whatsoever.
Alright. Then you have an extreme marine bias which makes it difficult for me to consider your opinion.

Regardless, decapitation is part of the game and if you get decapitated, deal with it. How? Actually go back and read my previous points, and fuck off and play something else for a while rather than getting extremely bitchy and salty without a good reason.
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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by MrJJJ » 22 Apr 2016, 14:15

SPACEpotato1 wrote: No shit. Try stopping the bleeding if the person is already dead, then revive them, easy as shit. Besides, 2 minutes = Brain is rip.
You can still fix the person when he is dead last i checked, so this wastes medical supplies if you want them not after revival die in seconds again.

EDIT: Should i say you have Massive Alien Bias? because it seems most of your posts are about protecting them and calling anyone who argues otherwise a salty bitch

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by Wickedtemp » 22 Apr 2016, 14:42

MrJJJ wrote: You can still fix the person when he is dead last i checked, so this wastes medical supplies if you want them not after revival die in seconds again.

EDIT: Should i say you have Massive Alien Bias? because it seems most of your posts are about protecting them and calling anyone who argues otherwise a salty bitch
It's been a while, but I believe defibs have a recharger now, so they're not really just single-use anymore. As for the remaining medical resources, I know this won't normally be the case judging from personal experience and seeing that chemistry is rarely ever done, but honestly, medical shouldn't run out of chems... They have a shit ton already made at round start in the vendors and kits, AND if they actually use chemistry they'll have more.

Personally I'm in favor of a chemistry rework, possibly doubling the chemical dispensers energy capacity or something, as well as giving the chems different sprite colors to make it easier to tell them apart at a glance. But that's another suggestion thread.

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by MrJJJ » 22 Apr 2016, 14:53

Wickedtemp wrote: But honestly, medical shouldn't run out of chems... They have a shit ton already made at round start in the vendors and kits, AND if they actually use chemistry they'll have more.
Wasn't exactly talking about chemicals only, but i see your point there.

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by Wickedtemp » 22 Apr 2016, 15:00

MrJJJ wrote: Wasn't exactly talking about chemicals only, but i see your point there.
Oh. Then what's Medical running out of..?

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by OatzAndHoes » 22 Apr 2016, 15:44

SPACEpotato1 wrote: No shit. Try stopping the bleeding if the person is already dead, then revive them, easy as shit. Besides, 2 minutes = Brain is rip.
Stop using realism as an argument. We already have so many features that this server has put into place for balance or gameplay that aren't realistic. Gameplay/RP/Balance>realism. If this game was about realism aliens wouldn't be able to hijack the shuttle. Every game would end in a marine minor victory from nuking the planet from orbit after they get their asses kicked on the ground. Either that or marines would realize they are outgunned and wait in orbit while they called for 5 other ships for backup and assault the aliens with an entire company sized force with armoured vehicles and air support.

Also would this machine work with bursted bodies? As of right now the only way to revive them is to clone them because their chest cavity is so fucked up their organs have all failed.

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by SPACEpotato1 » 22 Apr 2016, 16:12

by OatzAndHoes » 21 minutes ago

Stop using realism as an argument. We already have so many features that this server has put into place for balance or gameplay that aren't realistic. Gameplay/RP/Balance>realism. If this game was about realism aliens wouldn't be able to hijack the shuttle. Every game would end in a marine minor victory from nuking the planet from orbit after they get their asses kicked on the ground. Either that or marines would realize they are outgunned and wait in orbit while they called for 5 other ships for backup and assault the aliens with an entire company sized force with armoured vehicles and air support.
No. Because it's fucking retarded to have a 45 minute timer which can revive bursted and decapitated people - Seriously what the fuck? How do you not think that is stupid? Also a side-note. We don't know if aliens wouldn't be able to hi-jack the shuttle. And I think the company sized force would be fair when you're dealing with thousands of perfect killing machines. Denying the fact that, if byond wouldn't shit itself, the described events would be absolutely awesome, is pure insanity. I mean come on. Imagine a huge hive on a planet, weeds EVERYWHERE, tens of thousands of aliens, versus a shit-ton of marines with aerial support and what-not, that's just awesome.
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You can still fix the person when he is dead last i checked, so this wastes medical supplies if you want them not after revival die in seconds again.

EDIT: Should i say you have Massive Alien Bias? because it seems most of your posts are about protecting them and calling anyone who argues otherwise a salty bitch
Sure. If you want, doesn't make your post any more legible. I said if you die in the game, and you're pissed, with no chance of revival, just fucking leave. Staying and complaining, makes you, you guessed it. A salty bitch. I'd like you to take notes here, this includes any player, alien or marine.
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "THERE'S A DRONE AND A TON OF INFECTED LEFT."
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "IT AIN'T OGRE"
Graham Maclagan [Charlie (Spc)] says, "NOT YET."
Charlie Harding [Charlie (CL)] says, "It's never ogre."

Thy hero potato hath returned

Hivemind, Mature Larva (47) hisses, '"Hunter 47"'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'Agent 47 GOOOO'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'OH M GOD'
Hivemind, Young Drone (420) hisses, 'NOW I'M 420'

Kain Powers [MedSci (Doc)] says, "Im doing an infected marine"
LT Holden Ward [MedSci (BO)] says, "Please do not have sexual intercourse with infected marines"

Hivemind, Young Runner (911) hisses, 'And what a fitting number!'

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by MrJJJ » 23 Apr 2016, 02:19

SPACEpotato1 wrote: No. Because it's fucking retarded to have a 45 minute timer which can revive bursted and decapitated people - Seriously what the fuck? How do you not think that is stupid? Also a side-note. We don't know if aliens wouldn't be able to hi-jack the shuttle. And I think the company sized force would be fair when you're dealing with thousands of perfect killing machines. Denying the fact that, if byond wouldn't shit itself, the described events would be absolutely awesome, is pure insanity. I mean come on. Imagine a huge hive on a planet, weeds EVERYWHERE, tens of thousands of aliens, versus a shit-ton of marines with aerial support and what-not, that's just awesome.
Sure. If you want, doesn't make your post any more legible. I said if you die in the game, and you're pissed, with no chance of revival, just fucking leave. Staying and complaining, makes you, you guessed it. A salty bitch. I'd like you to take notes here, this includes any player, alien or marine.
You seem to be the only one who is being a salty bitch here, i have yet to see a post from you that explains any issue here other than *muh realism* and calling everyone a retard and a salty bitch, also you not the one deciding who's post is legible, and i am not gonna take notes from a guy who can't even argue properly

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by MadSnailDisease » 23 Apr 2016, 09:14

MrJJJ wrote: also you not the one deciding who's post is legible
I REALLY hate to be that guy (who am I kidding I am a grammar nazi at heart) but did you mean:
also you're not the only one deciding whose post is legible

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by MrJJJ » 23 Apr 2016, 09:53

MadSnailDisease wrote: I REALLY hate to be that guy (who am I kidding I am a grammar nazi at heart) but did you mean:
also you're not the only one deciding whose post is legible
Yes

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by qDan » 23 Apr 2016, 15:44

Why not simply use ticket system like in Battlefield games? All marines may respawn after small cooldown as another available role (until every available roles deplete) and continue fight - rescuing body and cloning it (or just putting it in cryo if player quit or playing as xeno) adding +1 ticket or making available role of of the rescued one if he quit game.

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Re: Replacer for Cloning

Post by apophis775 » 23 Apr 2016, 17:10

Like I've said:

Defib will get a buff/rewrite/adjustment when we remove cloners EVENTUALLY.

but this is fucking 4-6 months away.

CALM YOUR FUCKING TITS.

If people keep flipping out about the cloners, I'll remove them TOMORROW and not throw a replacement in.

I am so fucking tired of the constant stream of PM over steam, Pm over Byond, and Ahelps ingame about something that's not god damn happening ANYTIME FUCKING SOON.

Seriously. Fucking STOP.

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