John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
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John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Your Byond Key: Skelton_UK
Your Character Name: Jax 'Red' Jackson
Accused Byond Key(if known):
Character Name: John McCarren
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 22:00 Central US 12/1/16 (If I got that right)
What rule(s) were broken: I presume 0.2 , 1 and possibly 7.
Description of the incident: McCarren blew a lot of our chemmaster power and I believe Phoron trying to make drugs to kill himself, mixing it in a bottle he labeled the gg bottle and eventually resorted to swallowing shit tons of Russian Red "for science" despite having been rescued from crit once before from this very same action. He was found to have Ethanol, Carbon, Russian Red and Potassium and at the time he died had been mixing large amounts Oxygen, Ethanol and Water for no apparent reason. It wasted a large portion of our chemistry supplies and our time and was pretty unnecessary. Ship was not under attack, we didn't have a dozen aliens prying open the doors to medical. Just boredom I guess.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): http://imgur.com/a/m0dH6 // I took scanner readings but also analyzed his blood to find what he had used to kill himself, you can also see he did this previously in the round (What the fuck McCarren what did you do? happened earlier). The ethanol and such would've been ineffective so he downed a shit ton of Russian Red and OD'd/died to toxins. Was SSD in cloning and all attempts to clone failed.
How you would punish the accused: A warning and a note, it really felt like they just got bored and didn't want to play doc anymore so he started fucking about. I adminhelped it asking if I should make a complaint or let them handle it but it went unnoticed.
Your Character Name: Jax 'Red' Jackson
Accused Byond Key(if known):
Character Name: John McCarren
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 22:00 Central US 12/1/16 (If I got that right)
What rule(s) were broken: I presume 0.2 , 1 and possibly 7.
Description of the incident: McCarren blew a lot of our chemmaster power and I believe Phoron trying to make drugs to kill himself, mixing it in a bottle he labeled the gg bottle and eventually resorted to swallowing shit tons of Russian Red "for science" despite having been rescued from crit once before from this very same action. He was found to have Ethanol, Carbon, Russian Red and Potassium and at the time he died had been mixing large amounts Oxygen, Ethanol and Water for no apparent reason. It wasted a large portion of our chemistry supplies and our time and was pretty unnecessary. Ship was not under attack, we didn't have a dozen aliens prying open the doors to medical. Just boredom I guess.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): http://imgur.com/a/m0dH6 // I took scanner readings but also analyzed his blood to find what he had used to kill himself, you can also see he did this previously in the round (What the fuck McCarren what did you do? happened earlier). The ethanol and such would've been ineffective so he downed a shit ton of Russian Red and OD'd/died to toxins. Was SSD in cloning and all attempts to clone failed.
How you would punish the accused: A warning and a note, it really felt like they just got bored and didn't want to play doc anymore so he started fucking about. I adminhelped it asking if I should make a complaint or let them handle it but it went unnoticed.
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
I heard about that on medic channel [Round still going]. He just wasted supplies? Didn't help at all?
On May 17, 2016, a group of farmers dug up the diary of an ear of corn named Watson. Here are his entries.
Day 76:
They took Lawrence, dear god Lawrence... They ripped him off the stalk and smeared him in butter, just like Tyler and Jodie. They shipped him off to the popcorn factory...
I wonder what his wife will say.
Day 120: My brother says the VEGANS are protesting for more anti-meat bullshit. They want more of us to die. FUCKING HEATHENS.
Day 153: The ants are eating me from the inside out. They are popping out my kernels and taking them back to the nest. I feel them moving inside me. Julia says the pesticides will end our misery.
Day 300: Sweet Release. I can hear the planes flying over now. They are dropping the gas, it feels so good, sweet release-
Luiz"Mises"Buarque
Day 76:
They took Lawrence, dear god Lawrence... They ripped him off the stalk and smeared him in butter, just like Tyler and Jodie. They shipped him off to the popcorn factory...
I wonder what his wife will say.
Day 120: My brother says the VEGANS are protesting for more anti-meat bullshit. They want more of us to die. FUCKING HEATHENS.
Day 153: The ants are eating me from the inside out. They are popping out my kernels and taking them back to the nest. I feel them moving inside me. Julia says the pesticides will end our misery.
Day 300: Sweet Release. I can hear the planes flying over now. They are dropping the gas, it feels so good, sweet release-
Luiz"Mises"Buarque
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
I'm going to log dive and investigate. Will update soon with evidence and verdict.
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Results of Investigation
Evidence located:
The Verdict
Most definitely guilty of suicide for a poor reason.
Suggested course of action:
Jobban from Medical roles for player Soxlite.
Evidence located:
[21:54:44]ATTACK: John McCarren (soxlite) injected John McCarren (Soxlite) with Dylovene (anti-tox) Auto-Injector. Reagents: Dylovene (INTENT: HELP)
[21:54:45]ATTACK: John McCarren (soxlite) injected John McCarren (Soxlite) with Dylovene (anti-tox) Auto-Injector. Reagents: Dylovene (INTENT: HELP)
[21:54:52]ATTACK: John McCarren (soxlite) injected John McCarren (Soxlite) with Dylovene (anti-tox) Auto-Injector. Reagents: Dylovene (INTENT: HELP)
[21:54:53]ATTACK: John McCarren (soxlite) injected John McCarren (Soxlite) with Dylovene (anti-tox) Auto-Injector. Reagents: Dylovene (INTENT: HELP)
As can be seen above, rapidly injecting yourself with that much anti-tox in the course of at most 20 seconds is a very lethal action.
The reporter asks John what's going on.
[21:57:03]SAY: Jax 'Red' Jackson/Skelton_UK : Holy shit McCarren what the fuck
[21:57:07]SAY: Jax 'Red' Jackson/Skelton_UK : What did you do?
To which he replies
[21:57:16]SAY: John McCarren/Soxlite : Science
Then begins to suffer the effects of intentional overdose.
[21:58:45]EMOTE: John McCarren/Soxlite : <B>John McCarren</B> gasps!
From there he repeatedly logs on and off.
I find the log's information to be accurate to the information depicted in the provided screenshots.
The Verdict
Most definitely guilty of suicide for a poor reason.
Suggested course of action:
Jobban from Medical roles for player Soxlite.
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Just gonna chime in- Dylovene autoinjectors only contain 5 units normally, which would only give him 20u, below the OD threshold. Even if he had taken more, Dylovene is one of the few drugs that is not lethal when OD'd, only causing eye damage.
Not disagreeing with the verdict, just pointing out that the shown logs are insufficient to cause the stated effects.
Not disagreeing with the verdict, just pointing out that the shown logs are insufficient to cause the stated effects.
Mentor-
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
- Casany
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Id say blinding yourself with chems is still sufficient for a med-sci jobbanJroinc1 wrote:Just gonna chime in- Dylovene autoinjectors only contain 5 units normally, which would only give him 20u, below the OD threshold. Even if he had taken more, Dylovene is one of the few drugs that is not lethal when OD'd, only causing eye damage.
Not disagreeing with the verdict, just pointing out that the shown logs are insufficient to cause the stated effects.
"He killed me with a SADAR and it was bullshit. We should ban him for ERP because of how VIOLENTLY HE FUCKED ME" - Biolock, Saturday 15 October 2016
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"Sometimes you need to stop and enjoy the little things in life, for one day you'll look back and realize they were big things"
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
The given dose (20u) would not have caused blindness (35-40u).Casany wrote:Id say blinding yourself with chems is still sufficient for a med-sci jobban
Again, not disagreeing with the verdict, but the shown logs don't show the chems that actually caused this.
Mentor-
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Keep in mind that I believe eating pills does not leave logs, yet the screenshots show that the dead doctor clearly overdosed on Russian Red also. He used both.
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Ookay! That makes more sense. And I still agree with the verdict.Scrat505 wrote:Keep in mind that I believe eating pills does not leave logs, yet the screenshots show that the dead doctor clearly overdosed on Russian Red also. He used both.
Mentor-
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17
Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0
Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1
Total kills with SM- 6
Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u
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Re: John McCarren Doctor - Suicide by Chems Mid Round
Job-ban for all medical will be given, resolved.