The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

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The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by darklizard45 » 15 Dec 2016, 02:08

First how are the HUD scanners supposed to be able to detect an unknown parasite that we don't have information about growing inside a marine chest?
Does it actually detects it as unknown biohazard detected inside of subject
Cause the usual OH SHIT YOU HAVE A PARASITE GROWING INSIDE OF YOUR CHEST THIS HUD THINGY TOLD ME, BETTER REMOVE IT WITH SURGERY IS THE ONLY WAY!! doesn't make much sense
I mean... is a species of let's say "parasitary fauna" that the marines have no information about. The technollogy that they posses uses a databank in order to detect all the different pathologies.
The databank is filled with information about allready known pathologies
If the device were to find a new "pathology" the device itself will have troubles with detecting it
Of course it will detect that an unknown biohazard is inside of the marine, but that's about it
I believe if it gives information about it's location, but not the symptoms (the most ignored information in-game despite that IRL this information is essential) or what this "biohazard" is about, or how to cure it or even if surgery is a plausible method
If a marine were to get let's say "infected" and is the first case to be discovered, and we were to find out that he is "infected" with something, even if we knew that is parasitary we wouldn't go right to surgery to remove it, The marine itself will be isolated in order to study the developing of the disease. Not sended right into surgery
Also we don't know if is actually parasitary, the device itself could be wrong, remember the part of unknown biohazard it might be that is just a tumor developed as a symptom from a bacteriological or virological type of disease. It could even be a mushroom.
So the whole way in which the disease is detected and threated (First Case talking) wrong in a sense that is not following the medical method.
Also "removing an UNKNOWN parasitory ALIEN LARVAE from a HUMAN CHEST! with basic surgery sounds insanelly ridicolous

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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Karmac » 15 Dec 2016, 02:38

Immediately saying their infected is against the rules, it's metagame. You are to presume it's either a HUD glitch or something that isn't about to kill them, a less harmful parasite. Or you could just claim it to be alcohol poisoning.

The HUD doesn't say you're infected, it just shows that the patient has some kind of foriegn entity or parasite inside of it.
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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Xenosandbox » 15 Dec 2016, 09:21

My only problem is when I'm in heavy battle and I get hugged and a marine drags me 5 tiles back away from my gun amd leaves me there,

HELP ME UP, or grab my gun because 8/10 it's either covered in acid or a marine who has no ammo stole it and now I'm infected and useless and I'm so deep in shit that I'm guaranteed to burst so I either suicide charge with a grenade or sit around waiting to die and wait 5 more minutes to ATTEMPT to be an alien.

TL:Dr. Muh guns.
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Post by Heckenshutze » 15 Dec 2016, 09:39

So what are you suggesting? We leave the infected marines to burst? Things are good the way they are. Perhaps when hugger combat gets removed (TM) new rules about threating infected will be added. But for now, if you get hugged, you can get a surgery and it's 100% legit.
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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Szunti » 15 Dec 2016, 10:02

From the quickstart guide on the wiki:
Marines DO NOT initially know what Facehuggers do. However, a Medical scan or a MedicalHUD can confirm that a unknown biological parasite is inside a victim of a Facehugger and that logic dictates that it should be removed or examined at the earliest possible chance.

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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Xenosandbox » 15 Dec 2016, 10:02

No no I'm saying when you get hugged somewhere like the caves and there is no chance for surgery because someone dragged you out of the fight and left you there leaving your gun behind.

Unless someone willing to give up their chance to kill is kind enough to stumble on you and not take you as dead it's basically game over and even them you probably won't make it in time considering the usual Medbay flood.


My only gripe is if it's obvious you are too far away to get the marine help don't drag him away from his gun if your not gonna shake him up and let him pry the higher off at least grab his gun for him when you leave him on the other side of the river unattended.
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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Telegnats » 16 Dec 2016, 15:36

Some things:
Also "removing an UNKNOWN [parasitic] ALIEN LARVAE from a HUMAN CHEST! with basic surgery sounds insanely ridiculous
As far as i'm aware, surgery is never basic. Even if it's 'simple' surgery it's never basic.
The marine itself will be isolated in order to study the developing of the disease. Not [sent] right into surgery
That's very questionable as far as morals and ethics are concerned and i'd wager very few people would be willing to do that.
Also we don't know if is actually [parasitic], the device itself could be wrong, remember the part of unknown biohazard it might be that is just a tumor developed as a symptom from a bacteriological or virological type of disease. It could even be a mushroom.
I think you're wrong but none of us here probably have a good enough grasp of medicine, programming, or engineering to say what is and what is not.

Stop using all caps and bold/underlines/italics to make the other side seem like a bunch of drooling retards.

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Re: The way that infected marines are threated is wrong

Post by Casany » 16 Dec 2016, 15:48

Xenosandbox wrote:My only problem is when I'm in heavy battle and I get hugged and a marine drags me 5 tiles back away from my gun amd leaves me there,

HELP ME UP, or grab my gun because 8/10 it's either covered in acid or a marine who has no ammo stole it and now I'm infected and useless and I'm so deep in shit that I'm guaranteed to burst so I either suicide charge with a grenade or sit around waiting to die and wait 5 more minutes to ATTEMPT to be an alien.

TL:Dr. Muh guns.
Just get another one. I hate marines who run right back to where they got hugged just to get "muh guns". Once I saved a marine from boiler gas and almost died. First thing he did was run right into the hive to get his gun and got ganked and killed. Most times people don't have time to get your guns because either they are shooting theirs and pulling you, the most important asset, to safety or grabbing you with their gun out. When someone risks their life to grab your hugged ass and you complain that really makes them not want to save you anymore
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