Queen Gibbing

[Karmac]

Would genuinely like to know why it's in the game other than to try and force people into xenos.

[MrJJJ]

If any of the stuff that has been said is true, then apparently...

1. You body won't get retreived anyway, since being cloned chances are slim (because successful marine hive assaults just don't exist)

2. For Intimidation purposes (Why would the Queen need to intimidate her hive when she already mind-controls them is beyond me)

Of course, dev team knows best why it actually exists, so take what i said with a grain of salt.

[solidfury7]

Gibbing is really shitty and should be removed, the decap increase really has replaced it (and is reversible, if you have the time)

[Reuben Owen]

cloning is getting removed soon@tm anyway

so besides cloning do you have any reasons to dislike it?

[Joe4444]

cloning is getting removed soon@tm anyway

so besides cloning do you have any reasons to dislike it?

coloning is getting removed with an emphasis on defibing people or something.....so it'll probably just cause more gibbing

[Karmac]

coloning is getting removed with an emphasis on defibing people or something.....so it'll probably just cause more gibbing

This is exactly what I don't want to see as a result of no cloning, with people using the excuse of "You probably weren't going to be rescued anyway".

There will be a HUGE emphasis on rescuing captured marines if we have no cloning, they are the only marines we have, so seeing them COMPLETELY removed from the round due to gibbing, decap & drag the corpse, or xeno using shuttles to gib people when admins aren't looking is just going to make it a real bitch to try and be useful as a Medic.

[Liran343]

a good way to get rid of headhunters

[Toroic]

Gibbing is unnecessary and could easily be removed.

[Joe4444]

now that I think about it...I made a suggestion to either remove gibbing from the queen or a rule change to prevent it happening too frequently,its locked but if you want to read it http://cm-ss13.com/viewtopic.p ... ng#p105119

[Liran343]

Christ... removing gibbing isn't even for discussion. Gibbing is used to get rid of bursted marine corpses because they emit light, having scattered light sources that no one can destroy (except the queen) all around the north side of the river makes it easy for marines to spot the xenos and shoot their asses.

[caleeb101]

Christ... removing gibbing isn't even for discussion. Gibbing is used to get rid of bursted marine corpses because they emit light, having scattered light sources that no one can destroy (except the queen) all around the north side of the river makes it easy for marines to spot the xenos and shoot their asses.

Don't the marine armors still get left behind anyways.. and the armor light is still on aswell.

[Liran343]

Don't the marine armors still get left behind anyways.. and the armor light is still on aswell.

Nope... everything is destroyed.

[Arachnidnexus]

Gibbing is mostly used to deny specialist equipment from what I've seen. Xenos will often ask the Queen to "gib the boomtuber" or something like that. My feelings on it are very meh.

[Sad_Corn]

The problem is: Marines let their armor lights on, so the queen needs to gibb them.

Allow ayyliens to slash armor lights and remove gibbing. Profit

[MrJJJ]

The problem is: Marines let their armor lights on, so the queen needs to gibb them.

Allow ayyliens to slash armor lights and remove gibbing. Profit

I agree, maybe when he is preety much dead, you can click on him harm intent, wait 2 seconds and boom, light turns off.

[Crab_Spider]

Gibing bodies doesn't hinder or erase your chances of being cloned, it just removes core items of your character (Backpack, ID, armor, ammo rig). When a body is gibbed, there is still a head that can be reattached to a body, and therefore allow that person to return to the round.

The problem with being headless is the fact that people won't bother to try to reattach it, will think you're long gone, don't know how to reattach it, or think it's a solid waste of effort.

[Karmac]

Gibing bodies doesn't hinder or erase your chances of being cloned, it just removes core items of your character (Backpack, ID, armor, ammo rig). When a body is gibbed, there is still a head that can be reattached to a body, and therefore allow that person to return to the round.

The problem with being headless is the fact that people won't bother to try to reattach it, will think you're long gone, don't know how to reattach it, or think it's a solid waste of effort.

You literally proved your first sentence wrong by listing the details about it in your second sentence.

Nice try.

[Crab_Spider]

You literally proved your first sentence wrong by listing the details about it in your second sentence.

Nice try.

Do you mind inquiring me on this failure?

[Karmac]

Gibing bodies doesn't hinder or erase your chances of being cloned, it just removes core items of your character (Backpack, ID, armor, ammo rig). When a body is gibbed, there is still a head that can be reattached to a body, and therefore allow that person to return to the round.

The problem with being headless is the fact that people won't bother to try to reattach it, will think you're long gone, don't know how to reattach it, or think it's a solid waste of effort.

You say being gibbed doesn't reduce your chance of being cloned, and then point out that no one will go to the effort of cloning you.

[Damarik]

Gonna weigh in on this, just for the lulz, and because I know there's been a wide discussion about it.

Gibbing for the Queen exists. That's all there is to it. For canonical references, see Aliens, where Queen rips Bishop apart.

For practical reasons:
As has been stated, Gibbing removes Spec Weapons and Armor lights. Xenos exist in the darkness, because it gives them a better survival chance. If there's marine armor laying around, casting lights that we can't get rid of any other way than to 'hide the bodies' (which we still get bitched at for because we have to drag them far enough away from the battlefield that their lights don't cast over important key areas) behind walls or deep in the caves, then the Xeno's darkness is finalized as gone. As only the Queen can Gib, and there's only one Queen, this limits the Xenos abilities to take back their dark killing fields when there's flares, armor lights and god knows what else just lying about, casting light. (The only exception to this is the Boiler, because they are the bane of their own existence, not only because they emit their own light, but are slow as fuck.)

If the Queen is busy mining egg-fields, or on the assault, those lights remain, leaving nothing for a Xeno tactical retreat into darkness. A lone Xeno (T1 and some T2) will get absolutely slaughtered without darkness to hide in, if they're far enough away from the Hive. The Boiler itself is incapable of any serious self defense against anymore than one Marine, and even THAT is severely limited. Drones, too, have nothing in the way of Self Defense except to build a wall single wall tile that'll just get shot down three seconds after it's put up.

If we can't body-drag, and we can't gib, how else do you expect us to provide a challenge when any baldie rambo marine with a wild hair up his ass decides to chase down the helpless drone/boiler/T1 that has little in the way of defense?

Edited: because someone took issue with me saying the Queen "Gibs" Bishop.

[SUPERMAN112]

Gibbing a pred = most satisfying thing ever

[MrJJJ]

Gonna weigh in on this, just for the lulz, and because I know there's been a wide discussion about it.

Gibbing for the Queen exists. That's all there is to it. For canonical references, see Aliens, where Queen gibs Bishop.

Uhm, do you know what gibbing is? She cuts Bishop in half, thats not gibbing, when a queen Gibs you on CM, You aren't cut in half, you are fucking cut into pieces, with only a head that 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% will someone take and then 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% will then someone try to utilize to clone you.

[Damarik]

Uhm, do you know what gibbing is? She cuts Bishop in half, thats not gibbing, when a queen Gibs you on CM, You aren't cut in half, you are fucking cut into pieces, with only a head that 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% will someone take and then 0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000001% will then someone try to utilize to clone you.

Okay. So she doesn't 'gib' him in the sense that we know today, but it essentially results in the same thing. One dead person. Still, the act that is going on is the same. Queen lifts someone into the air, and then rips them apart. Just because Bishop didn't end up in as many pieces as people in game do doesn't change the act. Perhaps he didn't fly into little chunks because his simulated epidermis is stronger than that of human skin. Who knows?

This bit of detail does not change the essential reasoning I posted for why the mechanic exists.

[Karmac]

Damarik I really appreciate the genuine answer, thank you.

[Damarik]

Damarik I really appreciate the genuine answer, thank you.

No problem.

I agree that it's a shitler move to just gib everyone. But it is a valid tactic when not abused.