Command Ban

[James5734]

Your Byond ID: James5734

Character Name: James Zannini

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): All command positions

Admin who banned you (if known): Not known

Total Ban Duration: Permanent

Remaining Duration: Permanent

What other servers do you play on? Paradise station and fallout 13

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? Banned from Paradise station head roles due to going ssd as the head of personal and banned permanently from fallout 13 due to ghosting as a raider and then respawning a NCR with the same name and body.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): No previous ban

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I was incorrectly banned a while back under the claim that I went ssd as the CO at round start, what really happened was that during the middle of the round I was demoted due to sheer incompetence and after that I went ssd. While I was in no place to be playing as CO at a low level, I was still banned for the incorrect reason and would like to either be banned for the correct reason which is incompetence or not banned at all.

[McRipfist]

You are missing the ban reason.

[James5734]

Ban Reason: I was banned (Incorrectly) due to going ssd at round start as CO


Also, thanks for responding so quickly

[McRipfist]

Ban Reason: I was banned (Incorrectly) due to going ssd at round start as CO


Also, thanks for responding so quickly

Oh right. Job ban, you wouldn't get the note.

[Aetsuki]

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Notes: Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Suicide as Commander over no good reason. Logged before I could speak to him. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, December 29th of 2016 

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[12:49:50]ATTACK: James Zannini (james5734) shot James Zannini (james5734) with a the pistol bullet
[12:49:53]ATTACK: James Zannini (james5734) shot James Zannini (james5734) with a the pistol bullet
[12:49:57]ACCESS: Logout: James5734/(James Zannini)

Verified, you were banned for killing yourself as the commander without a reason. It would be my guess to disconnect because you logged out immediately after, which is a big no in our books. Can you provide reasoning for this?

Ontop of this, I've looked into things further and discovered that you were distributing full access IDs.

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[12:50:02]ADMIN: PM: x/(x)-> x/(x): Basically the CO was leaving his ID in the machine, so to ease my job and for RP's sake--

Which is huge rule violation due to how our access system works.

Overall you were job banned for the correct reason, if not for both.

[James5734]

I explained earlier that I was demoted due to incompetence, I then tried to kill myself and go ssd because I knew that my demotion would leave me to at best a laughing stock and I would no longer have any place in the round and so I left.

[Aetsuki]

I see no evidence of you being demoted.

[James5734]

By demotion I meant that I was asked by the XO to step aside to that he/she could become the new CO

[Aetsuki]

I'll be looking for that instance in the logs, if you can provide a name it'll make things quicker. However, I don't believe it helps your case. From what I've seen of your actions as commander, you made two announcements, talked to a survivor, and gave one of them an all access ID. As far as I've looked I the closest I can find to support your claim of being demoted is

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[12:49:06]SAY: Scott Power: I have to get this horrid commander demoted.

which honestly doesn't prove anything.

Furthermore, if you did accept standing down (which would've been a mutiny of sorts) then you told noone. You just shot yourself. This is verified by the fact that I looked over every action of yours in the round and not a single one claimed you were stepping down, and after you tried to kill yourself people were still addressing you as the commander.

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[12:50:45]SAY: Scott Power: The commander shot himself with no reason.

The commander role is whitelisted for a reason, it's an extremely important game role and a privilege, not a right. I personally don't see a reason for this to be lifted, however I believe the conditions of your appeal have been met- you were jobbanned for the correct reason. I believe this is ready for higher review.

[Feweh]

Denied