Ban Appeal

[dra24680]

Your Byond ID:
Dra24680
Character Name:
Forgot.
Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban):
Permanent
Admin who Banned you (if known):
Feweh
Total Ban Duration:
Permnanent
Remaining Duration:
Permanent
What other servers do you play on?
Heavy RP, Like Paradise.
Are you now or have you been banned on any of them?
No

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):
I had a history with the admins but during my last times with the server, I had some issues with Feweh, and I thought he was acting a bit too dictatorial in his decisions with me. He banned me one time for asking a question, being careful of my status on the server. viewtopic.php?f=71&t=8237, viewtopic.php?f=71&t=8237
Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

[dra24680]

I am requesting a temporary ban lift.

[Feweh]

I had some issues with Feweh, and I thought he was acting a bit too dictatorial in his decisions with me.

You ain't wrong, no democracy here.

This is why you were perma-banned though.

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Appears to have abandonded his post when he was needed to assign some marines, a call to replace him arose and he decided the only acceptable course of action was to immediately kill the reasonable player who was attempting to have him replaced IC. short ban issued and jobban issued. by Speedybast (GameAdmin) on Fri, June 26th of 2015 Remove

Banned from Commander - Deserting their post when they were needed, then instantly killing the CC-approved replacement when they attempted to peacefully demote them. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, June 26th of 2015 Remove

Warned about marine on marine killing, due to the other marine fighting back no action was taken but a warning was given for fully killing a marine in retaliation to what they thought was the other marine trying to shoot them. by Mordrehel (TrialModerator) on Sat, June 27th of 2015 Remove

Renested people as aliens, mutliple times and admitted to it and not knowing the rules. Issued 24 hour ban. by LordeKilly (TrialModerator) on Fri, July 17th of 2015 Remove

Metagamed, mentioned the 'sulaco' and the aliens hadn't even arrived there yet ... Talked to, and warned. by Felkvir (TrialAdmin) on Fri, July 17th of 2015 Remove

4 Day Ban - Killing two marines whilst they tried to get a janitor cart back and then dc'd. by Lucyz (TrialModerator) on Mon, July 20th of 2015 Remove

Warned for heading down to the planet as an RO, among other incidents. Further violations should result in bans of increasing severity. by Hycinth (Moderator) on Sun, March 13th of 2016 Remove

Shot 2 marines. 1 on accident, 1 because "he didn't think they were leading the station in the right direction" by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 Remove

PROBATION: If before August, he kills a marine and it's determined grief, give him a LENGTHY BAN and have apophis process the Perma by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 Remove

Banned by apophis775 | Duration: 2880 minutes | Reason: Griefing - shot marines for no good reason by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 10080 minutes | Reason: Griefer/Shit player - Was once again involved in another incident where he was considered "rogue". Did ahelp saying he was going to shoot another player, but was never given permission. XO ended up walking into armory without any weapons out and he opened fire on the XO with lethals. A MP and XO continued to use tasers on him and he returned fire with lethals. Player was just warned and is on probation, no excuses for this bullshit. Next warning/ban is a perma-ban. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Wed, June 1st of 2016 Remove

Warned for poor escalation of violence, resulting in a dead marine. by westhybrid (GameAdmin) on Thu, June 9th of 2016 Remove

Banned by westhybrid | Duration: 2880 minutes | Reason: Poor escalation, assaulting marines. Banned 48 hours pending investigation and priors. by westhybrid (GameAdmin) on Thu, June 9th of 2016 Remove

As MP punched a marine, marine retaliated, marine got brigged. Warned not to incite incidents again. Breaking Rule#1 especially as Mp's are not above the law they enforce. by Whistles (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016 Remove

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Awful player, shot a player despite being told not to. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sat, July 9th of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 4320 minutes | Reason: Player is constantly involved in shooting incidents with fellow players. Told him not to shoot the MP's trying to tase him and he still did. Punched the palyer first then shot them. Player is awful and has a terrible history of note, next ban is a perma-ban. by feweh (HeadModerator) on Sat, July 9th of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 4230 minutes | Reason: Once again, escalated a fist fight into another shooting situation. Killed a fellow marine after he started punching the marine first, gunned him down. Player has a history of this and he's out of warnings and bans. Player is now on PROBATION. When he returns from this ban any bans/warnings with result in instant 7day bans and a permanent ban written. No questions or mercy given. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Wed, July 20th of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 10080 minutes | Reason: Awaiting Perma-ban. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Wed, July 27th of 2016 Remove

[dra24680]

I understand. But I am requesting a temporary lift on my permanent ban.

[Feweh]

I understand. But I am requesting a temporary lift on my permanent ban.

Why would we lift your ban?
You had 3 chances to improve, were on probation twice and we even forgot to perma-ban you once for breaking probation.

Your entire appeal is basically "i dont agree with the perma ban and feweh banned be for no reason".

So as of right now, theres 0 reason to let you return.
Also, how the hell do you temporarily lift a permanent ban?

[dra24680]

When I was on my second probation, I didn't know I was

And during my last few confrontations with you and some of the other admins, I thought you guys were being a bit too dictatorial, and you can click the links I gave above to see why.

You can lift it and then set a schedule in which to ban me again.

Also, I agree with the perma-ban, and not only you but the other admins had plenty of reasons to ban me as well, but in exchange for a temporary lift, i'll take a lower role in the roleplay to make sure nothing happens again.

[dra24680]

I've been aching to return to this server... It's the only server I really want to play right now, and I don't want to get caught up in the other ones. I see this server as the only one worth my time. Rightfully so.

If the ban is temporary lifted, I think banning me from the positions you see me not to fit to play would be the right move to do.. I think I can contribute to the RP with a very low role, like Janitor or something. Or maybe Doctor. (That doesn't include violence)

[slc97]

That's not a reason to unban you. That's just you telling us you want something.

[dra24680]

I see your point, I think a good reason to unban me is that I will be willing to fix my mistakes and be willing to play any roles in the server you admins would trust me with, whether high or low. If I am unbanned, I will do my best to stay away from things that will enable me to turn violent. (For example like a gun and knives, unless I need to defend myself.) I will be willing to play a lower role to prove myself and my trust to that the admins.

I don't want to play as a Marine again. I'd be willing to play as something other than that, to minimize the chance of anything happening.. Because as you see, alot of my infractions obviously have ALOT to do with weapons, and I think it's a habit that's been holding me back in CM. I am willing to fix that if this ban is temporarily lifted.

[dra24680]

Because the main reason i've been in so much trouble on CM is because of guns. I am sure there are rounds where I had very much fun and contributed to the roleplay, but if I am unbanned, I am willing to reduce my tendencies to do such things, with the help of you admins.

[slc97]

If you can't control yourselves around weapons on a medium RP server with a heavy combat emphasis, then I really do not think we should be unbanning you. That's my two cents here, but it's gonna be up to Feweh.

[dra24680]

Meh, it's not that. It's just to minimize the chance of anything bad happening to them or seriously affecting what's going on in the round. I just want to take a lower role in the server in exchange for a temporary lift.

Thank you.

[Feweh]

I generally think this server isn't for you.
Simply because despite numerous talks and discussion you never seemed to understand that this is a RP server. You constantly ahelped asking to shoot fellow marines and generally always ended up attacking allies.
Sometimes it really wasn't your fault, but in the end you ALWAYS ended up killing someone.

Some people simply cannot handle the responsibility of controlling themselves, whether it be because of immaturity or lack of control. I personally believe you fall under both of those categories, as you don't seem to be very mature or have any self-control (as you admitted).

I've seen it many times with players, despite having good talks about what is and isn't acceptable.. they still repeat the same mistakes and errors.
Very concerning to specifically yourself is the lack of understanding, instead of accepting responsibility for your actions you deflected them and blamed our "dictatorship", which is evident by your Staff Complaints and appeal currently.

[dra24680]

You made very important points. But like I said in my appeal above, I am willing to and have gained the control to contain myself. This temporary unban could be my last chance, and yes, my bans were indeed legit. Very legit. While we talked I believed some of the decisions the admins made went too far, but that's it... I've been found guilty of my bans but if I can make a successful return now, I can minimize the chance of anything happening depending on what you admins do...

[dra24680]

It all depends on chance. I'm ready and fully willing to control myself.

[Feweh]

Ok, lifting this but banning you from all Command roles and you'll be on probation for 2 months.

Dont be shit and I hope you learned your lesson.

[Rahlzel]

Processed.

[Feweh]

It all depends on chance. I'm ready and fully willing to control myself.

There's been an update to this, turns out you might actually be someone quite notorious.
666Beast message=617AUG16+-+Multikeying&flags=4&keys=CodeineSprite,F---Nigga,6God,Dra24680&
6God message=617AUG16+-+Multikeying&flags=4&&keys=Kaze99,Buckeyes10,Dra24680

Level6god is definetly someone we remember

This would also explain why you never provided us a code to search your ban and why you keep telling us you're simply getting a "cannot connect" message.
Since you're hiding something further.

[dra24680]

I sent screenshots and they just started saying that stuff but my screenshots from yesterday simply said connection failed and what do you mean a code? If you can tell me I think I can remember.

[Feweh]

I sent screenshots and they just started saying that stuff but my screenshots from yesterday simply said connection failed and what do you mean a code? If you can tell me I think I can remember.

Heres the issue,

you're somehow related or have a connection to these perma-banned players;
666Beast message=617AUG16+-+Multikeying&flags=4&keys=CodeineSprite,F---Nigga,6God,Dra24680&
6God message=617AUG16+-+Multikeying&flags=4&&keys=Kaze99,Buckeyes10,Dra24680

At this point, I'm not sure its worth risking unbanning you.

[dra24680]

I explained that to the admins at the time, and I told them that my brother was playing CM with a new account since mine was ban, resulting in the mult-keying ban.

[apophis775]

Your brother, is level6god?

[dra24680]

Yes. He was using the account but he doesn't really play like that anymore.

[Feweh]

Yes. He was using the account but he doesn't really play like that anymore.

This will never be lifted, for obvious reasons.

[Rahlzel]

"My brother did it" - the most unoriginal excuse in the history of server shitlers.

Level6God, or rather - you - is the player that used our old leaked source to run a server and then use it as leverage against Apophis to be unbanned.

Evidence as follows.

The staff ban request for dra24680. Only staff can see this, so here's a copy/paste of the topic:

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Witnessing Staff (If Applicable): SnipeDragon, Edgelord

Witnessing Players (If Applicable):

Target's Byond Key: dra24680

Target's IP (VERY IMPORTANT): 104.12.88.128

Target's Computer ID (CID. View Variables > "Computer_ID"): 443801575

Reason: Been a constant mess of broken rules and priors and shows no sign of learning, since he's been on probation TWICE and still acts out. Tried to start an unlawful mutiny today. No point letting him parade around anymore.

Evidence: See notes..

List of rules broken by the target: See notes.

Players Notes (REQUIRED): 

[color=#80FF40]Appears to have abandonded his post when he was needed to assign some marines, a call to replace him arose and he decided the only acceptable course of action was to immediately kill the reasonable player who was attempting to have him replaced IC. short ban issued and jobban issued. by Speedybast (GameAdmin) on Fri, June 26th of 2015 

Banned from Commander - Deserting their post when they were needed, then instantly killing the CC-approved replacement when they attempted to peacefully demote them. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, June 26th of 2015 Remove

Warned about marine on marine killing, due to the other marine fighting back no action was taken but a warning was given for fully killing a marine in retaliation to what they thought was the other marine trying to shoot them. by Mordrehel (TrialModerator) on Sat, June 27th of 2015 

Renested people as aliens, mutliple times and admitted to it and not knowing the rules. Issued 24 hour ban. by LordeKilly (TrialModerator) on Fri, July 17th of 2015 

Metagamed, mentioned the 'sulaco' and the aliens hadn't even arrived there yet ... Talked to, and warned. by Felkvir (TrialAdmin) on Fri, July 17th of 2015 

4 Day Ban - Killing two marines whilst they tried to get a janitor cart back and then dc'd. by Lucyz (TrialModerator) on Mon, July 20th of 2015 

Warned for heading down to the planet as an RO, among other incidents. Further violations should result in bans of increasing severity. by Hycinth (Moderator) on Sun, March 13th of 2016 

Shot 2 marines. 1 on accident, 1 because "he didn't think they were leading the station in the right direction" by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 

PROBATION: If before August, he kills a marine and it's determined grief, give him a LENGTHY BAN and have apophis process the Perma by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 

Banned by apophis775 | Duration: 2880 minutes | Reason: Griefing - shot marines for no good reason by Apophis775 (Host) on Thu, May 26th of 2016 

Banned by feweh | Duration: 10080 minutes | Reason: Griefer/Shit player - Was once again involved in another incident where he was considered "rogue". Did ahelp saying he was going to shoot another player, but was never given permission. XO ended up walking into armory without any weapons out and he opened fire on the XO with lethals. A MP and XO continued to use tasers on him and he returned fire with lethals. Player was just warned and is on probation, no excuses for this bullshit. Next warning/ban is a perma-ban. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Wed, June 1st of 2016 

Warned for poor escalation of violence, resulting in a dead marine. by westhybrid (GameAdmin) on Thu, June 9th of 2016 

Banned by westhybrid | Duration: 2880 minutes | Reason: Poor escalation, assaulting marines. Banned 48 hours pending investigation and priors. by westhybrid (GameAdmin) on Thu, June 9th of 2016 

As MP punched a marine, marine retaliated, marine got brigged. Warned not to incite incidents again. Breaking Rule#1 especially as Mp's are not above the law they enforce. by Whistles (Moderator) on Thu, July 7th of 2016 

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Awful player, shot a player despite being told not to. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sat, July 9th of 2016 Remove

Banned by feweh | Duration: 4320 minutes | Reason: Player is constantly involved in shooting incidents with fellow players. Told him not to shoot the MP's trying to tase him and he still did. Punched the palyer first then shot them. Player is awful and has a terrible history of note, next ban is a perma-ban. by feweh (HeadModerator) on Sat, July 9th of 2016 

Banned by feweh | Duration: 4230 minutes | Reason: Once again, escalated a fist fight into another shooting situation. Killed a fellow marine after he started punching the marine first, gunned him down. Player has a history of this and he's out of warnings and bans. Player is now on PROBATION. When he returns from this ban any bans/warnings with result in instant 7day bans and a permanent ban written. No questions or mercy given. by Feweh (HeadModerator) on Wed, July 20th of 2016[/color]


Additional Info or Notes:

The perma request for 6god/666Beast:

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[b]Witnessing Staff (If Applicable): [/b]

[b]Witnessing Players (If Applicable):[/b]

[b]Target's Byond Key: [/b]
6god
666 Beast
[b]
Target's IP (VERY IMPORTANT): [/b]
104.12.88.128

[b]Target's Computer ID (CID. View Variables > "Computer_ID"):[/b]
443801575 

[b]Reason: [/b]
Ban evading and multikeying. Same IP, name and ckey.

[b]Evidence:[/b]
[quote]
[12:10:03]ACCESS: Login: 6 God/(Steve 'God' Crimson) from 104.12.88.128-443801575 || BYOND v509
[18:02:12]ACCESS: Login: 666 Beast/(666 Beast) from 104.12.88.128-4143545280 || BYOND v511
666 Beast's character name: Steve 'Boosie' Drive

August 17/2016
[16:16:33]ACCESS: Login: Grannys/(Granny 'Wardell' Broski) from 104.12.88.128-443801575 || BYOND v509
[/quote]

[b]List of rules broken by the target: [/b]
8,9


[b]Players Notes (REQUIRED):[/b]
6God
[quote]
He was resisting arrest with lethal force. Warned not to resist arrest with lethal force. Lethal Force = Shooting up the Sulaco with an SMG. by Warnipple (Moderator) on Thu, August 11th of 2016 Remove

As a military police, resorted immediately to stunning someone for non-violent crimes. Proceeded to continue stunning the player in the brig during various interactions. The player clearly didn't understand why what he was doing was wrong; we had a semi-lengthy discussion about the usage of force and when it should not be applied. Seems to grasp the concept, has been warned. by Biolock (Moderator) on Fri, August 12th of 2016 

At the beginning of the round he used a fire extinguisher and a chair to roll around the Sulaco, while not innately bad, it led to a fight in which he sent someone in critical condition to surgery. He's been warning against being a nuisance and a generally toxic character by Biolock (Moderator) on Sun, August 14th of 2016 

Banned by slc97 | Duration: 180 minutes | Reason: Improper Escalation of Force. Attacked someone with a saw for taking their pda. When I tried to explain to them why this was improper escalation, they justified it by saying that you can't rely on MPs for everything and that they asked multiple times for their pda back. Has past notes for toxiciity as a player, so I gave him 3 hours and told him to go read the rules, read the forums, and come back with a better understanding of the rules and a better attitude by Slc97 (TrialModerator) on Sun, August 14th of 2016 

Banned by jdobbin49 | Duration: 720 minutes | Reason: Self antagging CL and improper escalataion, job ban from CL if he breaks any CL rules again by Jdobbin49 (Moderator) on Mon, August 15th of 2016 

Banned from Corporate Liaison - Improper escalation to lethal force as CL. Shot a marine twice with his AP pistol for punching him 4 times. by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Tue, August 16th of 2016 Remove

Banned by warnipple | Duration: 1440 minutes | Reason: Improper escalation to lethal force. I asked him if he knew the proper escalation procedures. He told me yes. It was clearly not proper escalation as you've only been punched 4 times and you shot him up twice. by Warnipple (Moderator) on Tue, August 16th of 2016 Remove
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666 Beast doesn't have any notes.

[b]Additional Info or Notes:[/b]
I banned him earlier today for improper escalation and noticed that someone with a similar Ckey had made an ahelp if he could kill someone. Checked the IPs and it was the same. He is currently claiming that it was his brothers account that was banned. Do what you will with this one.

He doesn't follow the rules and is generally very toxic. Would recommend a minimum 3 month ban. I have recommended that he appeal on the forums.

Things to note:

• IP addresses are the same.
• Computer IDs are the same.
• Dra24680 was banned 1 month prior to 6God.
• Although inconclusive, notes of misconduct are similar between both accounts.

The ban.txt that pulled Dra24680 into a sticky ban under 666Beast/6God's username:

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666Beast 
message=617AUG16+-+Multikeying&flags=4&keys=CodeineSprite,F---Nigga,6God,Kaze99,Buckeyes10,Grannys,Dra24680&IP=104.12.88.12,76.113.77.18&computer_id=1367941454,242535308

In conclusion, 'I do desire we may be better strangers.'