Make Throwing Knives Stick

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Summary (a quick, 2-3 sentence summary):Throwing knives as they are, are completely pointless to take. The absolute only upside to them, are to throw at crushers to get past armor. If knives stuck in xenos as they do humans, this would benefit the throwing knives a lot, because right now they are only taking up space in armory vendors.

Benefits (How this will benefit the server and game as a whole):Making throwing knives stick into xenos will benefit the item by making it actually useful. It will allow the thrower to debilitate a xeno, making it move slower and trail blood which they could later track, as well as causing passive damage based on movement, how it does when humans get one stuck in them. (Don't quote me on making them slower, i think they do but i could be wrong.) This will make throwing knives worth the inventory space, and have a multitude of mechanical advantages. Much more so than just raw miniscule brute damage from getting hit by the thrown knife.

Details (Description of how you think this would work, the benefits, etc):A thrown knife hitting a xeno would have a chance to get stuck in the targeted body part, causing passive damage based on movement, trailing blood, and making them (slower?), how a knife sticking in a human would.

Implementation (Optional, if you have an idea how to implement it):Apply code for having throwing knifes stick in humans to xenos.

[Crab_Spider]

No -1
Fuck no. Do you know how many throwing knives there are?

[Katsukai]

-1. Just cause it will be perma stuck on a xeno and making a simple knife into knee meme reality. Would rather see throwing knifes work like an gun, have stack of knives on your hand wield it and click targets like you would with an gun.

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I do, not sure what that has to do with anything though. If you're implying that there's too many, and that if this system was in marines would just take a ton and spam throw them to stick into xenos, then you're right. That's what the percentage to stick into the xenos is there for, which in my head would scale down per evolution. The passive damage would also be miniscule, but enough to matter. The knives wouldn't be perma stuck either, they could just remove it how a human could remove one, but probably faster and without the extra damage a human takes from taking one out.

[Butterrobber202]

Wouldn't be hard to add a 'Rip out Object' verb for Xenos. Have it cause 5 brute, but the knife is out. Maybe a 15 percent chance of failure.

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[Katsukai]

Imagine Prae getting slowed by an throwing knife or an crusher, it's simply dead at that point. Who needs SADARs

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Well at that point those t3s would have a very small chance to have a knife stick in them. (Still not even sure if knives slow who they get stuck in.) The crusher is a pretty good point though, i imagine the only thing a stuck knife would do to it is the passive damage.

[MauroVega]

Do people not get it,they are not for aliens

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Do people not get it,they are not for aliens

What are they for then? Humans? Because they are completely useless for anything but humans. It doesn't matter who or what they are for anyway, the idea is that if you throw a sharp object correctly at something, it will have a chance to either stick in it or not. Even more so if you are throwing a knife made for throwing at something that is organic.

[Crab_Spider]

What are they for then? Humans? Because they are completely useless for anything but humans. It doesn't matter who or what they are for anyway, the idea is that if you throw a sharp object correctly at something, it will have a chance to either stick in it or not. Even more so if you are throwing a knife made for throwing at something that is organic.

You take pistol AP rounds when you need to ensure a threat is incapable of using weapons. You take slugs when you need to break bone and make sure a threat gets the idea. Throwing knives are meant for humans because xenomorph's caraplace is too thick to be pierce by them.

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You take pistol AP rounds when you need to ensure a threat is incapable of using weapons. You take slugs when you need to break bone and make sure a threat gets the idea. Throwing knives are meant for humans because xenomorph's caraplace is too thick to be pierce by them.

Okay. If they are too thick to be pierced, why do xenos take damage from them at all? If this is the case, might as well make it clear and have them take no damage at all, like how the crushers exoskeleton can deflect bullets.

[Crab_Spider]

Okay. If they are too thick to be pierced, why do xenos take damage from them at all? If this is the case, might as well make it clear and have them take no damage at all, like how the crushers exoskeleton can deflect bullets.

As a gameplay mechanic, it's still an object that deals a considerable amount of brute damage, therefore, the game registers the damage once it makes contact with the xeno. Regardless, it ignores all armor like it's supposed to, meaning it won't deflect because it's not a projectile, it's a thrown object that is meant to stick into wounds, but because xenos aren't humans, and this property was left out because there's no point in adding something that won't be used and doesn't improve the server performance.

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As a gameplay mechanic, it's still an object that deals a considerable amount of brute damage, therefore, the game registers the damage once it makes contact with the xeno. Regardless, it ignores all armor like it's supposed to, meaning it won't deflect because it's not a projectile, it's a thrown object that is meant to stick into wounds, but because xenos aren't humans, and this property was left out because there's no point in adding something that won't be used and doesn't improve the server performance.

So because xenos aren't humans, knives can't stick into their wounds? I'm failing to understand what you're saying.

[MrJJJ]

No -1
Fuck no. Do you know how many throwing knives there are?

...Thats not a arguement, look at how much ammo each damn vendor can have, all of which are refilable

(Don't quote me on making them slower, i think they do but i could be wrong.)

They don't.

-1. Just cause it will be perma stuck on a xeno and making a simple knife into knee meme reality. Would rather see throwing knifes work like an gun, have stack of knives on your hand wield it and click targets like you would with an gun.

10 feet knife poles for 5000 damage when?

Imagine Prae getting slowed by an throwing knife or an crusher, it's simply dead at that point. Who needs SADARs

I mean...crusher can still charge, prae is probably paincrit from his acid...

Do people not get it,they are not for aliens

What's the point of it really?
Its essentially a troll weapon, even on humans, you would still use a pulse rifle with AP, esspecially on burst, its a lot easier and more wieldy, and does about more damage, heck, even the SMG is easier to use and can score more hits, the only time i would find myself using them is on DS, which is...almost never.
Not even baldies grab it, BALDIES!

[Katsukai]

I mean...crusher can still charge, prae is probably paincrit from his acid...

Except he has to moon walk unless wants to show it's rear to enemies.

[Wubs4Scrubs]

-1

I still don't understand why throwing knives are even in the vendor frankly, it just seems really strange to me RP wise that a USCM force with the capability to travel FTL across the expanses of space still has throwing knives in their arsenal.

[TheMaskedMan2]

Without repeating literally everything else that was said, and how this would fuck with everything balance wise, it makes no sense at all.

Acid blood + knife sticking in xeno = melted knife that falls out harmlessly.

[Azmodan412]

Okay, the shit being spewed regarding throwing knives makes me want to suggest the marine railgun. Line up the entire marine team and have them do... nothing from back to front. The front guy throws a throwing knife at Mach 2 and cause proportionate damage.

[Crab_Spider]

Okay, the shit being spewed regarding throwing knives makes me want to suggest the marine railgun. Line up the entire marine team and have them do... nothing from back to front. The front guy throws a throwing knife at Mach 2 and cause proportionate damage.

Sure.... that could work.... is this a specialist weapon?

[Azmodan412]

Sure.... that could work.... is this a specialist weapon?

The suggestion has been made.

[Crab_Spider]

The suggestion has been made.

In Acid Goop of all places.

[Azmodan412]

In Acid Goop of all places.

Because it's highly amusing.