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Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 09:13

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Marine Name (so we know who you are, if you play alien mostly, state that here):
Tyler 'Thrift' Borealis. In Hunter Games, I am Moon Moon.

Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name):
Ki'cti-pa Mei'hswei (Spear Brother in the Yautja language).

Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?
As I have been gone for a long-ish amount of time and only been back for roughly a week, I have reread the Code of Honor.

Character background (A very BRIEF description of your predators background):
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How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator. This will weigh HEAVILY and frequently breaking from this MAY result in removal)?
I intend to play my predator as the careful hunter, marking out his prey and then stalking it. It is important in a hunt to know the prey’s movements, where they stop and where they are on edge. Once I have the requisite data, I would strike mercilessly. As a result, I would play a Yautja like Colonial Marines was an Assassin’s Creed game. Once the prey is engaged, I will not relax until they are dead, only stopping when they get knocked unconscious via RNGesus's decree and shake them up to continue the fight.

Why should we whitelist you?
I have played most every role on the Sulaco and even off it as a Survivor. As a result, when I die from chest bursting or xenos going murderboner, I end up bored out of my mind. I have taken it upon myself to spectate more often than not to help staff catch rulebreakers. Even then, I get bored and start dicking around in dead-chat, helping people in LOOC, getting cursed out by whitelisted predators for trying to help them, and other shenanigans. Over the past week that I have returned for, I've tried to be helpful to newer players and even do something things that amuse and entertain the bored Sulaco crew as Tyler the bartender.

Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?
To be honest, I haven't been banned within the last month that I know of and/or remember, but I have appealed my Medical job ban within three days of returning to the server.

Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?
I honestly have never played any other servers because from what I could tell via research, no other server is quite like Colonial Marines.

Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?
No one is above the rules, as I learned all too well when I was in school. I understand quite well that Yautja have rules upon the normal rules of how to act because of how unique their role is.

Something else to add:
I know I've been a general shitler off and on when I was playing and there is no solid way I can convince you that I've changed. I found that people's thoughts tend to be concrete once their mind is made up about someone. If you don't like me as a player and as a person, I won't try to argue because I know that in the past, I've been a shitty player and teammate. Thank you for your consideration reading this far.
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Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Sailor Dave » 28 Mar 2017, 09:35

I feel that you may have fallen into the trap of describing everything else more than your own predator. Lots of setting, but not as much character. I didn't get a good impression of what they're about until your playstyle came up. Despite that, I did like it some. As for the playstyle itself, it feels like it has the same idealistic perspective most people have when they intend to play a predator, which is fighting people individually. Most of the time you won't have that opportunity, as they'll likely be surrounded by friendlies. How would you handle that?

Also, could you clarify your point about getting cursed out by whitelisted predators? That sounds very unusual. I doubt most whitelisted people would get on your case for trying to help them unless you were being a bit caustic about it.
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Feweh » 28 Mar 2017, 09:37

You just returned to CM recently and decided to throw out an App instantly?

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 09:42

Sailor Dave wrote:I feel that you may have fallen into the trap of describing everything else more than your own predator. Lots of setting, but not as much character. I didn't get a good impression of what they're about until your playstyle came up. Despite that, I did like it some. As for the playstyle itself, it feels like it has the same idealistic perspective most people have when they intent to play a predator, which is fighting people individually. Most of the time you won't have that opportunity, as they'll likely be surrounded by friendlies. How would you handle that?

Also, could you clarify your point about getting cursed out by whitelisted predators? That sounds very unusual. I doubt most whitelisted people would get on your case for trying to help them unless you were being a bit caustic about it.
Handling this, I would uncloak within the darkness and RP using the 'me' verb to indicate that I want to fight one person alone. If this doesn't happen, I may indicate that I will unleash with heavy caster bolts and a smart disc to disperse the group, drag off my target and proceed to hunt. The second part however was a time when Observers could LOOC to people they were following. I tried to help someone during my stint of doctor Tyler by giving them advice that the IMS in medbay serves as a scalpel, hemostat and retractor when he was searching for medical supplies. He cursed me out for me trying to give him this advice. Finally, the backstory with a lot of setting but not as much character, I tend to not focus on one character but how he interacts with the world, responds to stimuli in his surroundings. Some character you can get from the application is in Part 2, where it opens up that he was in a reverie about his dream the previous night. One would infer that he was daydreaming and not focusing on his training. In the course of one round, my Predator would rack up MAYBE seven kills total as he enjoys the waiting before the action, and he would see his Hunt as over when the xenos board/attack the Sulaco.

Feweh, yes. I don't mean to be blunt, but recently implies two or three days. I've been back a week and talked about putting this here yesterday.
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Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Feweh » 28 Mar 2017, 10:30

Azmodan412 wrote: Feweh, yes. I don't mean to be blunt, but recently implies two or three days. I've been back a week and talked about putting this here yesterday.

Good luck.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 10:36

Feweh wrote:Good luck.
I don't know anymore... Is this a +1, -1 or a ±0
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Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

Hunter Games: I am Moon Moon! Destroyer of worlds! Ahuhuhuhuhuhuhuhu!
Moon Moon Victories: x1

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Re: Predator Application

Post by NescauComToddy » 28 Mar 2017, 12:01

Props for the background. It's clearly shows how much effort you put on it, which is a considerable amount on my personal view.

About the way you would play, It's generic, I don't think you understood the question. Also, the way you described looks a bit to hostile for me. I'd say you shouldn't simply eliminate your prey "mercilessly", it will result in a lot of trouble with reports and gameplay to your victims.

About your shitter past, I believe we cannot simply trust you. I Consider you a stranger to us due to your inactivity, at the current moment. You're to me a stranger, whose in the past was a shitter.

You just came back to CM, improve your concepts and then, produce an app. -1 from me.

Still, good luck. Your app was indeed very interesting to read(Made in a phone, pardon for my possibly incorrect grammar).

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 12:10

NescauComToddy wrote:Props for the background. It's clearly shows how much effort you put on it, which is a considerable amount on my personal view.

About the way you would play, It's generic, I don't think you understood the question. Also, the way you described looks a bit to hostile for me. I'd say you shouldn't simply eliminate your prey "mercilessly", it will result in a lot of trouble with reports and gameplay to your victims.

About your shitter past, I believe we cannot simply trust you. I Consider you a stranger to us due to your inactivity, at the current moment. You're to me a stranger, whose in the past was a shitter.

You just came back to CM, improve your concepts and then, produce an app. -1 from me.

Still, good luck. Your app was indeed very interesting to read(Made in a phone, pardon for my possibly incorrect grammar).
Did you read the part where I said I won't be able to change people's opinions? In most of staffs' minds, I am a problematic player just by my notes alone. You make your own decisions by looking at words on a screen and think for a bit. How can words change someone's mind once its made up. Most, if not all of the people I know have tunnel vision upon first impressions. As a moderator, you have the ability to see my notes and this is a 'first impression' and its human nature to not change their opinion.

About the whole merciless thing... Would you show mercy to a condemned criminal if you knew he/she was going to harm and kill more? Would you show mercy to an animal who is a known manslayer? What I mean about that thing is that you may get away if you're lucky, but I would have my sights fixed on you until you die because, in my opinion, its just thinning out the herd.
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Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Feweh » 28 Mar 2017, 12:25

Heres what bothers me and why you won't be accepted.

In the past you were a known problematic player, nothing too bad but nothing really good.

So what do you do 1 week after coming back?

You make a predator application after being away from the server for probably 6months + and potentially even longer.

How the fuck, is anyone supposed to see that you've changed when you've been gone for so long and spent only a week back?

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 12:26

By observing my gameplay as it stands right now and forming opinions around that instead of notes. To be frankly honest, in my eyes, this is going from an honest application where the original intent was to say 'hey I'm back and I want to be a positive influence in the community' to 'let us all shit on Azmo because he's such a horrible person in game'.
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Tyler 'Thrift' Borealis: Slaughterer of stupid xenos, insane motherfucker, and who played tower defense with Predators with an axe.
Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by NescauComToddy » 28 Mar 2017, 12:49

Azmodan412 wrote:Did you read the part where I said I won't be able to change people's opinions? In most of staffs' minds, I am a problematic player just by my notes alone. You make your own decisions by looking at words on a screen and think for a bit. How can words change someone's mind once its made up. Most, if not all of the people I know have tunnel vision upon first impressions. As a moderator, you have the ability to see my notes and this is a 'first impression' and its human nature to not change their opinion.

Sadly, I cannot change my opinion in 3 days. Not compatible with my moral.

About the "manslaughter animal" and the "condemned criminal" argument, it sincerely does not makes any sense to me.
Might be my problem through.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Feweh » 28 Mar 2017, 12:50

Azmodan412 wrote:By observing my gameplay as it stands right now and forming opinions around that instead of notes. To be frankly honest, in my eyes, this is going from an honest application where the original intent was to say 'hey I'm back and I want to be a positive influence in the community' to 'let us all shit on Azmo because he's such a horrible person in game'.

But how can anyone form that observation off of a single week alone?
That's being gracious in saying you played 7days that entire week.

You want people to form a new opinion of you, yet you came back after 6+ months away and instantly applied to a whitelisted position after a week in-game and claim you're a different person.

Do you understand how you fucked up?

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 12:59

Feweh wrote:But how can anyone form that observation off of a single week alone?
That's being gracious in saying you played 7days that entire week.

You want people to form a new opinion of you, yet you came back after 6+ months away and instantly applied to a whitelisted position after a week in-game and claim you're a different person.

Do you understand how you fucked up?
If I didn't understand how I fucked up, why would I have put up an application in the first place?
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Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Kavrick » 28 Mar 2017, 15:10

Azmodan412 wrote:If I didn't understand how I fucked up, why would I have put up an application in the first place?
That doesn't make any sense, this isn't a post for an apology or anything like that, this is you asking for a privilege, you made the post because you want something, not because you understand how you fucked up.
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Azmodan412 » 28 Mar 2017, 15:16

Kavrick wrote:That doesn't make any sense, this isn't a post for an apology or anything like that, this is you asking for a privilege, you made the post because you want something, not because you understand how you fucked up.
*cough answering Feweh's question cough*
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Tyler 'Thrift' Borealis: Slaughterer of stupid xenos, insane motherfucker, and who played tower defense with Predators with an axe.
Predator Duels Won: 1
Predator Duels Lost: 2

BRING IT ON CASANY! I DO NOT CAST DOWN A CHALLENGE!
43 Xenos and counting.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by Kavrick » 28 Mar 2017, 15:54

Azmodan412 wrote:*cough answering Feweh's question cough*
Yes, and?
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Monoo » 28 Mar 2017, 18:45

Hmmm...

Story was nice and detailed. I enjoyed it, and for the most part it felt respectable, like I was reading an actual novel by an author experienced in predator lore. Not many predator apps can claim having a story that reads like that. Again, you showed a very good grasp of the lore. No doubts there.

My only issue with the story portion of your app is one that's pretty commonplace here, where you put the Yautja versions of words right alongside everything else in the story. It looks and feels jarring and takes me out of the otherwise engaging and well-written story. This sentence in particular sounds really weird: "Hult’ah gave his father a na’tauk as he walked into his room and laid on the bed, staring into the ceiling, wondering what it would be like on his first Kv’var."

I generally like a predator player that keeps their words and other spicy bits a bit more nuanced, so they don't totally overdo the role in game.

But, just a minor nitpick.

I absolutely think you can handle predator combat (you are the melee man after all) and you should be capable of judging whether something is or isn't appropriate. You're also a pretty good RPer, so that shouldn't be a problem either. Your time on the server since coming back IS an issue, like Feweh said, but you seemed on top of your game in being active this week and I like your attitude about getting denied or removed.

You've got my +1, provided this doesn't get auto-denied for being posted too early. Good luck!
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Post by slc97 » 28 Mar 2017, 18:49

-1

You're asking us to form an opinion of you not based off of your notes. You've been gone long enough and only come back recently enough that your notes are all we have to work with, and those aren't good.

You should have waited at least a month.

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Re: Predator Application

Post by XenonDragneel » 28 Mar 2017, 19:36

If player have known him before he was even gone, that was me.
If player play with him and have no problem, that was me.
If player was gone but know the gameplay style, if player been here since pre-alpha, if player made that SO interesting story about his pred...

+1

I have no idea what I wrote on the first sentence but, he was a good player in-side the community. Although... reading comments make me ill... please do not argue with staff and get this worst dude!
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Kerek » 28 Mar 2017, 20:20

You've been gone a long time, and although I've had a good expierence with you recently, you admitted to being a problem player and that you've been gone for a long time. To be honest I say you reapply after some time and then we see how you act ig and if you become a shittler again.

-1 honestly leaning +1 just your time back
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Re: Predator Application

Post by Kavrick » 30 Mar 2017, 10:07

-1 from me, says that his current gameplay and presence should be taken into account, and from what ive seen of him ooc and ic i have a hugely negative impression, and from what ive heard from recent events and old events, seems like he murders whenever he can get away with it, id rather not have a pred like that
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Re: Predator Application

Post by forwardslashN » 30 Mar 2017, 12:32

I really liked your RP back when you were around building lodges as a survivor. However, you were gone for months, and coming back after such a long break to submit a pred app has been an auto-deny for a while now. Concerning the story and such, I think you use a lot of Yautja-speak when it could have been plain English. There are also a lot of events happening around the character that sort of marginalize their role in their own story. The playstyle I have no problem with, and you are a pretty knowledgeable player when it comes to reasons as to why whitelist you. Still, if you've waited for a month after coming back, I think that would have been a lot better. For the moment though, I have to go with a -1.
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Post by Feweh » 30 Mar 2017, 13:06

Denied for obvious reasons.

Making Pred apps or any app in general after just returning to something is a terrible idea.

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