Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

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Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by Slraptor » 17 Apr 2017, 20:36

Your Byond ID:SlRaptor

Character Name:Rodger Bishop

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban):Job ban from MP

Admin who banned you (if known): Adminbot

Total Ban Duration: Perma

Remaining Duration: perma

What other servers do you play on? None

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? No

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Being on the planetside as MP

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): Don't have the link. But there is a previous one.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I was with a group of MPs that were ordered from the CO to grab a medic from planetside that assaulted a marine, Assaulted a MP and stole his flasher and ran to the drop ship. Command ask over comms for MPs to go grab him from LZ1. Get on RASP with two other MPs. Double check that the medic is wanted on HUD and the RASP takes us down to LZ1. Once there the LT tells us over comms that the Suspect Medic is not at LZ1 and is at LZ2 down the elevator. Tells us to run over there grab him and head back up the dropod. Once we got to dorms we were ambushed by 3 mature hunters which killed us quite quickly because we ere not carrying guns with us as it was supposed to be a "bag and tag" and not be planetside long. I waited 15 mins in dead chat Before I had to leave and then Logged out. After getting back on I discovered I was job banned from MP again from being planetside. We had commanders permission and this (http://prnt.sc/exaxhn) seems to be the only evidence against me. I do not know how long I was dead before my body was discovered, but there were 2 other MPs that were with me that died nearby. We're we all job banned? I was not on the planet "Fighting" we were not armed and not running around minging. we got ambushed on the way to the arrest target 30 mins into the game.

You can read MP radio chat and our chat leading up to our death planetside. We weren't there fucking about.

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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by Kerek » 17 Apr 2017, 21:19

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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by Slraptor » 17 Apr 2017, 21:36

Kneez wrote:viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12173&p=130084#p130084

Last appeal -- April, 11th


Thank you.

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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by NescauComToddy » 17 Apr 2017, 21:42

You contested against another Job-Ban 6-Days since now. I Believe this cannot be processed at the contemporary moment. However, I'll Investigate this for a likely, later request. Note history:

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Banned from Military Police - Was planetside fighting as a MP by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, March 31st of 2017 Remove

Joined as "Chad Thundercock", warned. on Fri, March 31st of 2017 

Warned for using the name John Shepard. This is the default character name for the main character of Mass Effect. Ban for next name infraction. on Sun, April 2nd of 2017 

Banned by redoktober12|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Shot another marine to death. on Thu, April 6th of 2017 

Slashed an Infected, nested Host as a Xenomorph. Apply a J-B In the next violation of our rules associated with the Role. on Fri, April 14th of 2017 Remove

Banned from Military Police - Went planetside as a MP again, without the CO nor XO's knowledge. Died planetside and logged off. (http://prntscr.com/exaxhn, http://prntscr.com/exaxlc) by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Sun, April 16th of 2017 Remove
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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by ZDashe » 17 Apr 2017, 21:44

I was the one who placed the job ban, this is the reason "Went planetside as a MP again, without the CO nor XO's knowledge. Died planetside and logged off."
Screenshot of your dead body planetside on Ice Colony: http://prntscr.com/exaxlc
Screenshot of how you looked like when you were dead: http://prntscr.com/exaxhn

These were the logs of what happened that led to your demise:

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[22:06:48] <<< Round started >>>
[22:08:45]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Just grabbing a pistol
[22:08:53]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : And putting it in shoulder harness
[22:09:07]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Never be to careful even with non leathels
[22:31:30]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Hes in the disposil?
[22:35:03]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Oh fuck
[22:40:15]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : People who were on the rasp you ok?
[22:47:44]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Someone is bringing you a coif
[22:47:47]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : ENS
[22:49:33]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Are they wanted on hud?
[22:51:40]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : There over there 
[22:55:00]ATTACK: Rodger Bishop (slraptor) was hit by a the alien, thrown by Young Runner (389)
[22:55:33]EMOTE: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Rodger Bishop</B> screams!
[22:55:33]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:34]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:34]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:35]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:42]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:42]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:43]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:43]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:45]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:45]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:51]ACCESS: Login: SLRaptor/(Rodger Bishop)
[22:56:44]ACCESS: Logout: SLRaptor/(Rodger Bishop) 
Someone brought to my attention that there were dead MPs planetside, and since those MPs logged off (one of them was you), I PMed the CO and XO to ask whether MPs were given permission to head planetside:

CO,
[22:59:12]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward): hey, did you authorize your MPs to be planetside?
[22:59:17]ADMIN: PM: (Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward)->ZDashe: Negative.

XO,
[23:00:03]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): did you authorize any of your MPs to be planetside?
[23:00:14]ADMIN: PM: (Mark Wilson)->ZDashe: i never heard about it
[23:00:26]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): ok thanks

Under the Marine specific rules on MPs:
  • On the Commander's (or Acting commander's) orders, you may leave the Sulaco to be a "dropship guard" or to apprehend a marine and return with them. Lethal weapons are authorized during these tasks."
Previous MP Job ban appeal: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12173
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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by NescauComToddy » 17 Apr 2017, 22:13

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[22:08:31]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Yea?
[22:08:45]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: Just grabbing a pistol
[22:08:53]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: And putting it in shoulder harness
[22:09:07]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: Never be to careful even with non leathels
[22:31:30]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: Hes in the disposil?
[22:35:03]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Oh fuck
[22:40:15]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: People who were on the rasp you ok?
[22:47:44]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: Someone is bringing you a coif
[22:47:47]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : ENS
[22:49:33]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor: Are they wanted on hud?
[22:51:40]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : There over there
Presumably, this Is essentially what departed from your mouth that WHOLE round, authenticating that you merited this punishment.You didn't even try to interact appropriately with your security partners neither command staff, which lead to disorganization and ultimately, your failure and frustration. You're unquestionably disprepared to assume these types of roles associated with reliability and capability.
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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by Slraptor » 17 Apr 2017, 22:26

ZDashe wrote:I was the one who placed the job ban, this is the reason "Went planetside as a MP again, without the CO nor XO's knowledge. Died planetside and logged off."
Screenshot of your dead body planetside on Ice Colony: http://prntscr.com/exaxlc
Screenshot of how you looked like when you were dead: http://prntscr.com/exaxhn

These were the logs of what happened that led to your demise:

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[22:06:48] <<< Round started >>>
[22:08:45]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Just grabbing a pistol
[22:08:53]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : And putting it in shoulder harness
[22:09:07]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Never be to careful even with non leathels
[22:31:30]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Hes in the disposil?
[22:35:03]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Oh fuck
[22:40:15]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : People who were on the rasp you ok?
[22:47:44]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Someone is bringing you a coif
[22:47:47]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : ENS
[22:49:33]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : Are they wanted on hud?
[22:51:40]SAY: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : There over there 
[22:55:00]ATTACK: Rodger Bishop (slraptor) was hit by a the alien, thrown by Young Runner (389)
[22:55:33]EMOTE: Rodger Bishop/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Rodger Bishop</B> screams!
[22:55:33]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:34]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:34]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:35]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:42]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:42]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:43]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:43]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:45]ATTACK: Elite Runner (356) slashed Unknown (as Rodger Bishop) (slraptor)
[22:55:45]EMOTE: Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)/SLRaptor : <B>SSGT Unknown (as Rodger Bishop)</B> screams!
[22:55:51]ACCESS: Login: SLRaptor/(Rodger Bishop)
[22:56:44]ACCESS: Logout: SLRaptor/(Rodger Bishop) 
Someone brought to my attention that there were dead MPs planetside, and since those MPs logged off (one of them was you), I PMed the CO and XO to ask whether MPs were given permission to head planetside:

CO,
[22:59:12]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward): hey, did you authorize your MPs to be planetside?
[22:59:17]ADMIN: PM: (Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward)->ZDashe: Negative.

XO,
[23:00:03]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): did you authorize any of your MPs to be planetside?
[23:00:14]ADMIN: PM: (Mark Wilson)->ZDashe: i never heard about it
[23:00:26]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): ok thanks

Under the Marine specific rules on MPs:
  • On the Commander's (or Acting commander's) orders, you may leave the Sulaco to be a "dropship guard" or to apprehend a marine and return with them. Lethal weapons are authorized during these tasks."
Previous MP Job ban appeal: viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12173
Did you check the other two MPs that were with me? yes I didn't say much, but I went down there with knowledge we had a commanding officers permission to be groundside. There were other MPs that died down their check them. I wasn't just fucking around we had a mission I went down with 2 other MPs I died. If I had the ability to pull shit up that happened in the past I would find something. I didn't record anything because I don't believe i have broken any rules.


"CO,
[22:59:12]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward): hey, did you authorize your MPs to be planetside?
[22:59:17]ADMIN: PM: (Rocco 'Blackhole' Ward)->ZDashe: Negative.

XO,
[23:00:03]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): did you authorize any of your MPs to be planetside?
[23:00:14]ADMIN: PM: (Mark Wilson)->ZDashe: i never heard about it
[23:00:26]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->(Mark Wilson): ok thanks"

Also this is BS I wouldn't have left if I didn't have an order too. Ive been really careful about not getting banned again. They either forgot that they ordered it, Or something else happened. please look into the Mp radio and the other MPs that were with me.

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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by ZDashe » 17 Apr 2017, 22:33

Slraptor wrote:*snip*
The other MPs were job banned as well during the same round. They basically decided to do their own thing and did not inform command about heading planetside because they wanted to arrest someone. Given your previous job ban, you should have known by now not to make the same mistake, or at least could have advised them to seek permission from superiors about your intent, but you didn't.

I recommend you sit out playing MP, and try another job long enough to be familiar with the server before you make more mistakes.
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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by TheSpoonyCroy » 17 Apr 2017, 23:08

Searched the logs and going to say....

You guys never asked for clearance to leave the Sulaco. You guys were tasked at arresting a "Tasker Bliss" who was planetside but the one who ordered you to arrest them was simply an SL (same rank as an MP) as shown here (I looked up the terms tasker, task, bliss for any other times prior to this when it was clear Tasker was going to be arrested but I couldn't find any other lines besides this one)

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[22:38:29]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Patton's Ckey: We need to find Tasker Bliss
[22:41:19]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Patton's Ckey : Tasker Bliss is wanted for assault, and AJ potter is wanted for assault and theft of a flasher

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[22:43:08]SAY: Boreale Sturvkem/Boreale's Ckey : To go down there, do we just need the coif
[22:44:39]EMOTE: Boreale Sturvkem/Boreale's Ckey : <B>SSGT Boreale Sturvkem</B> waves.
[22:44:39]EMOTE: Boreale Sturvkem/Boreale's Ckey : <B>SSGT Boreale Sturvkem</B> waves.
[22:44:55]SAY: Boreale Sturvkem/Boreale's Ckey : Aye, got to arrest two guys for theft and assault
[22:45:31]SAY: Boreale Sturvkem/Boreale's Ckey : Flasher
I can confirm XO or CO didn't give you guys clearance to leave the ship. I can confirm at least 3 of the BO's didn't give you clearance to leave, couldn't find 4th in my log diving. I could be missing something here but going to say it is very likely you were just following another MP because you thought he asked for clearance, when he did not do that at all..

Also if you don't believe me here is the say logs of the CO of that round (the guy you say gave you permission) to the point of your deaths at 22:55:42 (note I did remove an admin pm chain and the loocs since they don't really affect this case)
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Re: Slraptor's job ban appeal. vol.2

Post by Feweh » 20 Apr 2017, 21:35

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