Big Red

[TehSpoderman]

Do you think that Big Red is a balanced map? or do you think it needs some adjustments for it to be fun?

[Sarah_U.]

It'd be cool if T-Comm wasn,t APC-dependant. Even if it's at LZ1, I've seen low-pop / high-pop round where xenos achieve taking out Tcomm and due to bad cohesion or the lack of engineers able to navigate there (For any reason), communications (including pred-comm) got taken out and it was a true shitfest.

[Renomaki]

Well, on the one hand, it is a lot better than Ice, since the map is a single level map rather than a double level map, meaning xenos can't just camp ladders and turn them into hellholes for marines to jump down and die in.

However, there are a few things that I don't really like about it so far.

1: Just like with Ice, the map starts with comms off. While getting the power on is all you really need to do to get it back online, it can make mission start a bit of a hassle, moreso if the xenos decide to attack before you get the power up. I know it is supposed to make things more scary, but I like being able to organize my squad upon landing, since it is so very easy for squads to fall apart the moment you land.

2: Without good indicators, it is hard at first to figure out which dropship goes where. Before, it was easy to see where which ship went, since the dropship always went to LZ1 and the pod to LZ2.. But now that they are BOTH dropships, now we have to figure out which dropship goes where, and since there are no easy markers on the map as of current, I feel like you'd have to either remember from experience or ask a mentor for a reminder before setting up any battleplans.

3: Lack of proper landmarks makes direction a lot harder, even with a map. Everywhere you go feels the same on the outside, I kinda wish we had some larger items on the map that could act as landmarks to help clue marines as to where they are. What those might be, I dunno, but if the devs could think somethin up, that would be nice. Would also be nice once they finish the map up and name every location on the map to make tracking easier.

[Bigchilly]

I Thought marines had to set up comns on my first round, turns out just during briefing young runner 420 broke in and slashed the apc to death, would be nice if tcomns wasn't dependent on that APC.

[TehSpoderman]

I Thought marines had to set up comns on my first round, turns out just during briefing young runner 420 broke in and slashed the apc to death, would be nice if tcomns wasn't dependent on that APC.

wait is this late into the round?

[David Attenbruv]

I like Big-Red, personally however. Even with a map uploaded to the Wiki which makes it incredibly more easy to get around, I still get lost. Maybe it's only me that's being dense and can't navigate for shit. Though I still get lost af.

[TehSpoderman]

I like Big-Red, personally however. Even with a map uploaded to the Wiki which makes it incredibly more easy to get around, I still get lost. Maybe it's only me that's being dense and can't navigate for shit. Though I still get lost af.

maybe because everything looks the same

[elantzb]

I think that more exterior doors need labels for what their building is. This at least helped me start to understand the layout of Ice Colony.

[Marcus Jackson]

I like the size, the building layouts, and the endless possibilities... but everything looks the fucking same.

[Swagile]

To be honest, I think the major thing that makes Ice and LV so easy to identify the buildings in is because there are so many windows / openings into said buildings. So even without the airlocks in and out being marked, you could tell what the building was from either the floor tiles, the machines / terminals inside, the vending machines inside, and/or the dead corpses inside (Engineer corpse in Engineering on Ice is a nice touch).

On Big Red, however, a lot of the buildings are either storm shuttered, barricaded off, or completely shut off (r-walls at Engineering), so you usually can't tell what the building contains unless you enter it or if you know the map really well.

I imagine this feeling of disorientation will stop when people play the map long enough and look at the map constantly, but its definitely less player friendly than LV and Ice are.

[Nick123q23]

It could use some signs telling what each area actually is.