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MD, CMO ban

Post by Jroinc1 » 14 Jun 2017, 18:40

Your Byond ID:jroinc1

Character Name:Angelo Pearsall

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban):Jobban from medical

Admin who banned you (if known):Apophis775

Total Ban Duration:infinite

Remaining Duration:infinite

What other servers do you play on?None currently. LLA before it was gone.

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them?I think I had a jobban on LLA once?

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):Killing the CMO after an IC dispute


Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):
viewtopic.php?f=87&t=12718&p=136238#p136238

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

Check the previous appeal, wall-of-text there. I can copy-paste it if you'd like, but nothing about that has changed, though I can answer questions, obviously.

Only thing I want to note for the record is that in the next 16 days, I'll be changing my IP, computer, physical location, pretty much everything but my Byond ID and forum ID. I'm not ban evading, just moving and purchasing a new computer due to work.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Snypehunter007 » 14 Jun 2017, 18:54

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Banned from Chief Medical Officer, Doctor, Researcher - Killed the CMO over a dispute. Disobeyed CMo orders many times by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Tue, May 9th of 2017 Remove

Banned by apophis775|Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: Griefing - Killed the CMO due to IC disagreements. Also received Med Job-Ban. by Apophis775 (Host) on Tue, May 9th of 2017 
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The only problem with this ban is that Apop himself banned you, so he is the only one who can decide to unban you.
Reached "Leet" post status on 3/14/17.
Death of the Suggestion Killer - 11/30/2017

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by apophis775 » 14 Jun 2017, 21:14

If I remember, weren't you trying some really fucktard level shit?

Like, weren't you going to kill the CMO with a QC overdose, revive him after you had anesthetic tanks on him with a mask, then place him into an escape pod cryotube?
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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Jroinc1 » 14 Jun 2017, 22:14

apophis775 wrote:If I remember, weren't you trying some really fucktard level shit?

Like, weren't you going to kill the CMO with a QC overdose, revive him after you had anesthetic tanks on him with a mask, then place him into an escape pod cryotube?
Yep. Lost my temper after a long round.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by slc97 » 15 Jun 2017, 09:47

What happens next time you lose your temper?

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Jroinc1 » 15 Jun 2017, 12:34

slc97 wrote:What happens next time you lose your temper?
I ahelp, like I did last time, and I try not to misunderstand what the answering staff said...

Honestly if it gets that bad again, I'll just cryo. It's a bad outcome, but it's better than any of the others.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by apophis775 » 15 Jun 2017, 15:29

I'm still hesitant to lift this.

Your behavior was 100% unacceptable, especially since you are former staff. And your play wasn't just some "i'm upset so I shot him" thing. You spent a fair amount of time planning it out. Yes, the CMO was a bit of an ass with his orders and how he ran things but it was HIS MED BAY. You have to follow his orders, not kill him.
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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Jroinc1 » 15 Jun 2017, 16:01

apophis775 wrote:I'm still hesitant to lift this.

Your behavior was 100% unacceptable, especially since you are former staff. And your play wasn't just some "i'm upset so I shot him" thing. You spent a fair amount of time planning it out. Yes, the CMO was a bit of an ass with his orders and how he ran things but it was HIS MED BAY. You have to follow his orders, not kill him.
Okay.

There's nothing more I can say on this, as we're going over the same ground over and over again. There was an IC issue, I ahelped, misunderstood what I was allowed to do, and took action. I thought I had permission to do it, which is the only reason I did what I did.

I don't lie about anything, and I did the best to clarify why I did what I did. Would it have been better if I HAD randomly shot him, and it had just been routine grief? I do my best to avoid hurting people, and if I do so, it WILL be a thought-out decision, after talking to staff, with all that implies. As far back as I can remember, as well as looking at my notes, this is the only time I've ever intentionally hurt another allied player on this server, and I haven't played on others in quite a while.

If you have any other questions, I'll gladly answer them.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by apophis775 » 15 Jun 2017, 16:30

I was explaining why I was hesitant to lift this. Yes, it's the same ground again, but it's the ground you made when you took those actions.
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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by slc97 » 16 Jun 2017, 00:29

When you PMed the admin in your previous appeal, he told you to resolve it ICly. He nowhere said to straight murder a dude with QC. I'm very unsure how that can be misconstrued.

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Feweh » 16 Jun 2017, 11:03

Leaving this up to Apop

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by apophis775 » 22 Jun 2017, 23:50

I'm still not sure about this. It was just... such a dickhole thing to do.
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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by Jroinc1 » 24 Jun 2017, 14:28

apophis775 wrote:I'm still not sure about this. It was just... such a dickhole thing to do.
I typed up like 4 responses, but I have nothing additional to say that I haven't already said.

I'll await your decision.
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3 Nov 16-15 Jan 17

Atmos bombs built- 16
Hull breaches repaired- 6
Charged SMs manually dragged to space- 2
Backup tcomms systems set- 4
SM de-lamination weapons detonated- 0
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp- 5
Times I've burned half the ship to a crisp ACCIDENTALLY- 2
Engine SMs de-laminated on my watch- 0

Upper deck engines made-1
Lower deck engines made-1

Total kills with SM- 6

Most surgeries done at once- 3
Most anesthetic tanks used in a round- 3
Most surgeries done using only personal supplies- 37
Most perdiox made w/in 5 min of roundstart- 540u

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Re: MD, CMO ban

Post by apophis775 » 24 Jun 2017, 15:42

Yeah, gonna say denied for now.

It's still very disappointing that former staff would do something so shitty as to try and take someone out of the round like this to bypass the "no killing".

There are not words to explain my level of disappointment.
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