Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

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Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

Post by Renomaki » 27 Jun 2017, 22:23

For many months, applicants have suggested a number of difference play-styles to prove that they can be interesting predators. However, more often than not these styles tend to have serious issues...

From hunting larva, flipping out over the sight of blood, focusing heavily on ranged weapons, all the way to even targeting only a single faction to the death, creating play-styles that don't involve dishonor or power-abuse is quite hard.

It is this reason why we tend to have so many predators with very laid-back, simple styles. Sticking with what works is safer and easier, rather than trying something new that no doubt is going to cause trouble in one way or another. That is why I made this thread: To discuss what gimmicks CAN work, and why certain others can't.

So... What CAN work? What kinds of predator personalities would be lore-friendly? What could you get away with doing without dishonoring yourself? What gimmicks can work? I ask you, since most of you guys are much more experienced with the role than I am. I may have killed many serpents, but I have yet to have the skill to take on a queen compared to a lot of other predators here. What say you?
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Re: Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

Post by doodeeda » 27 Jun 2017, 22:49

You could probably capture people with cable restraints and go from there.
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Re: Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

Post by Boltersam » 28 Jun 2017, 03:47

A good gimmick that not many people have exploited is a religious gimmick, holding rituals after killing prey, creating shrines, etc.

I think I'll lax my stranglehold on playstyles a bit, but they should have a gimmick, they shouldn't be a copy-paste of what we do in addition to our playstyles already.

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Post by Biolock » 28 Jun 2017, 07:21

I'd rather keep my playstyles to myself so they don't become another generic predator niche, but in terms of behaviors, ya could try not being hyper butt-buddies with all the other preds. I don't understand why all the preds get along so damn swimmingly, especially since they're mostly from different clans. Roleplay as the A-type personality you signed up for and light some fire under your nuts.
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Post by Sarah_U. » 28 Jun 2017, 23:22

I don't frown on spitting on other preds once in a while. Especially if my pred believe they're wrong or doing something wrong.
I sometimes seek to find a reason to straight out honor duel other preds to add a spice here and there, but not too often since I don't really want to start a war / internal feud. Need a solid reason and I ask admins prior to.
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Post by Nick123q23 » 29 Jun 2017, 05:52

Have a different playstyle per round, or just never make up your mind about what your playstyle actually is.

Worked for me so far.
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Post by Renomaki » 29 Jun 2017, 22:41

Huh.. A bit concerning this is.

Other than kidnapping, there seems to be not much else for predators TO do... Mainly due to honorcode and metarules denying most other forms of play. You can't be a doctor nor a slaver anymore, so all there is to do is hunt like most others.

... Kinda makes the whole "Playstyle" thing pointless when you realize how restrictive it really is.
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Post by Feweh » 30 Jun 2017, 17:05

You can be a slaver

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Post by Boltersam » 30 Jun 2017, 17:21

Feweh wrote:You can be a slaver
Apop disallowed it here viewtopic.php?f=137&t=10352

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Post by Feweh » 30 Jun 2017, 17:24

Boltersam wrote:Apop disallowed it here viewtopic.php?f=137&t=10352
Ya, no idea how or why this stopped being allowed.

But Yautja absolutely can take slaves.

That isn't to say they can become "pets" or "soldiers".
They are Slaves, they build shit for you, potentially heal you, defend your shit as a guard dog.

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Post by ShortTemperedLeprechaun » 30 Jun 2017, 18:19

Feweh wrote:Ya, no idea how or why this stopped being allowed.

But Yautja absolutely can take slaves.

That isn't to say they can become "pets" or "soldiers".
They are Slaves, they build shit for you, potentially heal you, defend your shit as a guard dog.
If I'm correct, and bolter, cornocopia of pred information can correct me, but I believe yautja live on a caste system. Slavery wouldn't be far off for them to be honest.
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Post by Boltersam » 30 Jun 2017, 18:37

I'm not correcting shit, given how xenophobic Yautja society as a whole is, I personally believe that even if not all of them took slaves, a fair amount would, and there may even be clans specialised in the capture, training, and trade of slaves, from other races.

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Post by Nubs » 30 Jun 2017, 22:08

last time me and a pred tried to take a slave, (we found a survivor in the sw sandstone that wouldn't budge, was unarmed and injured) apop himself spawned in and said we had disgraced ourselves for taking a slave, then hacked the slaves head off. So after that i didn't think it was allowed.
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Re: Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

Post by Renomaki » 30 Jun 2017, 22:14

From what I assume, the only known slaves (at least, I assume from what Apop said) are crippled or weak predators. While I could be wrong, it probably would be logical for the broken and worthless to live a life as slaves and servants, whose only use is to provide assistance and tend to the mighty and proven. Probably the WORST fate for any predator.

That isn't to say that it is impossible for preds to have human slaves, but unless there is proof of this happening within legit lore, it probably will be shunned by Apop.

Stuff like this kinda makes me wonder why we still judge people based on playstyle, if there really aren't a whole lot of lore-friendly, legal playstyles that you could perform that won't upset staff, players or the predator themselves?

Should we really get all snobby when a person comes up to us and is all "I'm gonna be a predator that sneaks around in the darkness, spooks people and tries to find good game to hunt and kill", when that is pretty much what ALL of us do? I understand that it can be useful for determining a person's thought-process and if they could handle the job responsibility, but at the same time I begin to wonder if maybe we should rework the app to something that would be easier to work with and judge.

A predator's backstory is used to see how much they understand lore and to hint at their playstyle, but THE playstyle section can sometimes be a bit difficult to judge. Just because a person says he'll do the same as another predator doesn't mean they'll be boring, after all, but that is just me I suppose.
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Re: Playstyles: No-nos and Yes-yeses?

Post by Nick123q23 » 01 Jul 2017, 06:27

Actually, in whatever movies it was where the predators taught early human civilizations how to build pyramids, you could say they had made all those people into servants.
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