Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

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Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Renomaki » 03 Jul 2017, 23:39

When hunting serpents, the best trophies are normally the larger, greater serpents, such as crushers or praetorians. Strong, tall, fearsome... These towering beasts are not easy get. Ravagers were also quite the dangerous beasts too, but back then, you could beat them if you used skill and a bit of luck...

... Nowadays, though, it is ALL luck if you manage to beat a ravager without being crippled. Ever since they got the ability to RNG a limb off (as well as the fact that you can lose a limb when they charge, which always happens without warning), fighting ravagers is almost nearly impossible. Last night, I managed to take on a ravager that was ELITE and come out with only a broken skull. Recently, though, I tried to take on a young ravager and ended up getting my arm charged off, leaving me without my vital bracer and losing all my abilities.. And then I died when a hunter and ravager ganged up on me (then again, thus is expected when xenos dogpile you).

Fighting ravagers isn't as much of a challenge as it is the ultimate gamble. And that kinda sucks... It makes me wonder if it is still worth attempting to take down a ravager knowing just how easily it is to lose your bracer to them. The moment a predator becomes crippled, you might as well end yourself because a crippled pred is just going to live a life of dishonorable slavery the moment they return to their homeplanet, no matter how many trophies you got.

Should we just avoid them altogether? Blow them away at range? Or do we just accept that, if they are around, we are probably going to need the protection of the gods in order to survive an encounter with them in one piece? I still wish to fight them when I can, but still.. Knowing the horrible risks, it deters me.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Karmac » 03 Jul 2017, 23:41

Nobody's forcing you to not just plasma cast them into crit and then shank their crit bodies into submission. Just don't cloak while you're doing it.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Renomaki » 03 Jul 2017, 23:44

Karmac wrote:Nobody's forcing you to not just plasma cast them into crit and then shank their crit bodies into submission. Just don't cloak while you're doing it.
I dunno, though... It just doesn't feel all that honorable to just blast them to pieces, let alone if you are hunting one.

Sure, xenos sure as hell won't show honor right back and will gladly use every dirty trick in the book to kill you, but then we'll just end up with salty aliens. Plus it feels satisfying to slice em apart, you know?

Then again, that is the whole reason for this thread, to discuss what to do about it and our opinions on the matter.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Karmac » 03 Jul 2017, 23:47

xenos aren't considered honorable creatures so it's pretty much anything goes within reason against those scummy bastards really. and sure it's nice to slice them up but as it stands we can barely take on two mature hunters that are dedicated to killing you
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Post by Biolock » 04 Jul 2017, 04:51

I agree with karmac, but I think the better option is to just ignore them for the time being. If they won't leave you alone, that's one thing, but preds can be the ultimate salt cannon, so it's better to just... not.
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Post by Kerek » 04 Jul 2017, 20:20

You can do what I do, I place a hunting trap under me, when they try to charge me, step back one and slice them to death when they are stunned with a trap.
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Post by Heckenshutze » 05 Jul 2017, 15:56

Kneez wrote:You can do what I do, I place a hunting trap under me, when they try to charge me, step back one and slice them to death when they are stunned with a trap.
There.

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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Renomaki » 05 Jul 2017, 22:15

Heckenshutze wrote:There.

Like I said to Reno on a hunt once, "Brother I wil always trust in our tech before anything else"
Well, if it is considered legit, I'll keep such a thing in mind.

After all, if xenos decide to swarm the lodge, you are gonna need to have them plasma rifles ready. Melee just isn't viable when they swarm you, and traps can only stop so many xenos before you run out.

I hate having to use pew pew, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do to survive... Within honor, anyways.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Biolock » 06 Jul 2017, 07:46

Don't be scared of using ranged weapons. If it's legit, which most of the time it actually is, we'll all back you up. I think the next thing I'm about to say is kinda a lost concept in the meta of our server: You only need to be honorable in a hunt. If you are BEING hunted, you can fight as DIRTY as you want. If an ancient ravager is coming after me, even if it's alone, ranged weapons are coming out; a mature ravager outclasses a predator in melee.

Edit: Could we get your input on this, Feweh? I know lorewise this is fine, but in terms of our server, you /kinda/ run the predator show.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by ShortTemperedLeprechaun » 06 Jul 2017, 13:53

Lowkey, I've had a bad habit of pointblanking a ravager with eradication spheres...they charge me AS I fire, and they get up and try to yoink me off.....I mean, I get away, but ravagers don't seem to mind the eradication sphere.
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Re: Yautja and Ravagers: What should we do?

Post by Sarah_U. » 12 Sep 2017, 08:54

Protip from me:
Generally try to always know where you're going and have 3-tile wide+ spaces when confronting xenos + multiple ways out of the situation.

If you're forced into a corner or a narrow path, I've done a cheesy tactics months before where I rested during a charge (Macro'd rest) and legged it past the ravager. Could be of some use.
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