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Permaban Appeal

Post by Laserscope » 30 Aug 2017, 09:13

Your Byond ID: Laserscope

Character Name: IDK

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): CoronelJones

Total Ban Duration: Permanent

Remaining Duration: The time is infinte as infinite are the wonders of our universe.

What other servers do you play on? Only tried NML for a couple days before it died TBH.

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? Nah.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Banned by host: L7NOV16 - Griefing/Staff Disrespect - Spammed the words "Faggot Nigger" about 200 times over BYOND chat.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): Boy that was long ago, I don't know where to find it!

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): http://i.imgur.com/miTIb8g.png Here is a screenshot of my retarded behavior that took place before the permaban. I remember that I played through a round and something really pissed me off, I don't know if it was a marine TKing me or just some xenomorph bullshit that still had to be straightened up (I've heard most issues that bothered me are long gone by now), but what set me off is the way how CoronelJones approached the whole matter. That is to say, poorly, even though I sadly don't have logs of that happening as it happened, dunno, year ago or so? I just remember being really angry, and in the end I sperged out after his actions, taking my 'last resort' action in the form of spamming his BYOND pager with these continuous messages.

I am really sorry for what I've done back then, I know that incident made me look like a toxic retard who has no place in this community, but I'd like to apologize for that. I should've known better than throwing racial slurs and homophobic insults wouldn't bring me anywhere higher from that situation, but... Yeah, I have simply lost myself there. I am also a notorious multikeyer, so in case of you guys agreeing to give me another go without being a complete retard, I'll mention the ckey for easier tracking and note updates.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Sleepy Retard » 30 Aug 2017, 09:32

Player's notes, or at least, for Laserscope:

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Banned by x|Duration: 8550 minutes|Reason: Randomly shooting a maintenace tech, once questioned called the staff a "faggot nigger" then proceeded to kill the maint tech, read our rules by x (GameAdmin) on Fri, November 4th of 2016 

Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Randomly shooting a maintenace tech, once questioned called the staff a "faggot nigger" then proceeded to kill the maint tech, read our rules by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Fri, November 4th of 2016 Remove
Just for reference, this is the spamming and salting:

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Personally, they look like a fucking retard given these images, however I am not against unbanning them and giving them another chance. It's almost been a year and they contacted me and were relatively civil in their attempts to find out what their old ckey is.

They grief and salt again, well, they'll be gone.
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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Tidomann » 30 Aug 2017, 10:08

I'm a bit hesitant to add my support to this- considering you still seem to hold some memory of resentment to the way it was handled by staff at the time. Looking back there wasn't anything antagonizing or belittling the way he approached you.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Laserscope » 30 Aug 2017, 10:27

Tidomann wrote:I'm a bit hesitant to add my support to this- considering you still seem to hold some memory of resentment to the way it was handled by staff at the time. Looking back there wasn't anything antagonizing or belittling the way he approached you.
I like being honest, so obviously I am not going to conceal an opinion or two in hopes of having higher chances at anything. Yes, I show resentment for the way how CoronelJones handled the situation that ultimately led me to spamming him with racial and homophobic slurs, but I have no heavy feelings against them. Mistakes happen, we both did them, I got rightfully punished for mine and that's how it went. I'll let you decide in the end, but I'd still greatly appreciate getting a final shot with you guys, because the server has the whole action-packed gameplay shtick mastered, compared to other servers that try to bite off more than they can swallow.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by NGGJamie » 30 Aug 2017, 10:51

I vote a definite "maybe", with tough restriction against rulebreaking. To be very blunt, it depends on how much you've matured in the past year; because from my point of view throwing a tantrum and spamming someone to call them a "nigger faggot" is the sort of immaturity I would personally not have any patience for dealing with. It isn't a proper way to respond to a problem with someone, and I guarantee it never actually helped a dispute of any kind in the course of human history.

I have respect for the statement that you've been very forthcoming in your appeal, I'm concerned as to how you might react if you are approached by staff in the future.
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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by ZDashe » 30 Aug 2017, 10:56

You weren't joking when you said you were a notorious multikeyer. You used more than 50 over accounts.... Before I go into pulling up hundred of lines of notes, why don't you recount some of the atrocities that you did in the past that you can remember?
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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Laserscope » 30 Aug 2017, 11:08

ZDashe wrote:You weren't joking when you said you were a notorious multikeyer. You used more than 50 over accounts.... Before I go into pulling up hundred of lines of notes, why don't you recount some of the atrocities that you did in the past that you can remember?
Seeing the ban reason on my latest permaban, I sorta remember what happened back there. The maintenance technician was basically a giant annoyance on Sulaco: He would not listen to superiors, start stashing up weapons, even welding up doors, which was a serious pain in the arse during an on-ship emergency. I tried to get to him, but CoronelJones told me to leave him alone and that he will sort this problem out, although after waiting twenty minutes I haven't seen any action coming from him so I took the matter into my own hands: I just killed the maintenance technician, and CoronelJones banned me for eight days or so.

All my other offenses from days past have been honestly... Pretty tame, I guess? I haven't done anything horrifying or degenerated, such as doing really creepy /me's and all that, I've basically been getting banned for team-killing and team-killing only... Yeah, I think I've been just team-killing from time to time, long time ago, which rewarded me with weeks-long bans as a result.

The team-killing wasn't anything clever either, it was the textbook 'baldie with a shotgun' type of situation: I'd grab a shotgun, load it with buckshot and start blowing everybody's brains out, and most of these incidents happened late in the round, although I fully understand that these circumstances don't change ANYTHING.

I think I've also argued with some players back in the time, but these incidents didn't end up with anything serious IIRC.
NGGJamie wrote:I vote a definite "maybe", with tough restriction against rulebreaking. To be very blunt, it depends on how much you've matured in the past year; because from my point of view throwing a tantrum and spamming someone to call them a "nigger faggot" is the sort of immaturity I would personally not have any patience for dealing with. It isn't a proper way to respond to a problem with someone, and I guarantee it never actually helped a dispute of any kind in the course of human history.

I have respect for the statement that you've been very forthcoming in your appeal, I'm concerned as to how you might react if you are approached by staff in the future.
I'll certainly be much more cool-headed in case of a staff member having a problem with me, and while I don't promise that I'll keep some problems with staff to myself, I'll make sure to elaborate them in a relaxed manner, primarily on forums.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by ZDashe » 30 Aug 2017, 12:10

Laserscope wrote:Seeing the ban reason on my latest permaban, I sorta remember what happened back there. The maintenance technician was basically a giant annoyance on Sulaco: He would not listen to superiors, start stashing up weapons, even welding up doors, which was a serious pain in the arse during an on-ship emergency. I tried to get to him, but CoronelJones told me to leave him alone and that he will sort this problem out, although after waiting twenty minutes I haven't seen any action coming from him so I took the matter into my own hands: I just killed the maintenance technician, and CoronelJones banned me for eight days or so.

All my other offenses from days past have been honestly... Pretty tame, I guess? I haven't done anything horrifying or degenerated, such as doing really creepy /me's and all that, I've basically been getting banned for team-killing and team-killing only... Yeah, I think I've been just team-killing from time to time, long time ago, which rewarded me with weeks-long bans as a result.

The team-killing wasn't anything clever either, it was the textbook 'baldie with a shotgun' type of situation: I'd grab a shotgun, load it with buckshot and start blowing everybody's brains out, and most of these incidents happened late in the round, although I fully understand that these circumstances don't change ANYTHING.

I think I've also argued with some players back in the time, but these incidents didn't end up with anything serious IIRC.


I'll certainly be much more cool-headed in case of a staff member having a problem with me, and while I don't promise that I'll keep some problems with staff to myself, I'll make sure to elaborate them in a relaxed manner, primarily on forums.
Some of your notes, (ERP, Grief, Improper name, Disrespectful)

Berylowiec:
  • Banned|Duration: 5000 minutes|Reason: Dropped bombs randomly on the pod. When questioned: "I am roleplaying as ISIS". on Thu, October 20th of 2016
Coldstar:
  • Shot 2 marines and a Researcher to death with no justifies whatsoever. on Tue, September 20th of 2016
  • Banned|Duration: 7200 minutes|Reason: Killed and Shoot multiple Marines for no reason,when questioned insulted staff on Tue, September 20th of 2016
Dym:
  • Ahelped about wanting admin intervention over a hidden drone during Sulaco defense. Replied, said that it's not worth making a MOTHER report over. Warned him about using Ahelp in asking things and has expressed that they understand. on Sun, October 30th of 2016
Feels Like A Wheel:
  • IC in LOOC on Sun, January 3rd of 2016
  • Illegal name on Sun, January 3rd of 2016
Gargulec:
  • Commited suicide early in the round as BO because "RL stuff came by". Please ban from all command roles. on Mon, January 25th of 2016
Grease Gun:
  • Ultra-aggresive to staff after being PMed about punching people in the RO line, calling intervening staff "dense", accussing staff of antagonizing/trying to find an excuse to ban him, knowing rules better than everyone else, etc. Quite the specimen on Sat, September 3rd of 2016
Hexmaster:
  • Had the name Piecus 'Of' Shitus, told him to change it. on Fri, November 4th of 2016
  • Shot and killed 2 MPs because he thought "they were two griefy shitters". on Fri, November 4th of 2016
  • Extremely disrespectful to staff, called the rules bullshit. I'd ban this guy if he didn't have any notes. on Fri, November 4th of 2016
Laserscope:
  • Banned|Duration: 8550 minutes|Reason: Randomly shooting a maintenace tech, once questioned called the staff a "faggot nigger" then proceeded to kill the maint tech, read our rules on Fri, November 4th of 2016
  • Banned from Commander, Executive Officer, Bridge Officer, Pilot Officer, Military Police, Corporate Liaison, Requisitions Officer, Chief Engineer, Chief Medical Officer - Randomly shooting a maintenace tech, once questioned called the staff a "faggot nigger" then proceeded to kill the maint tech, read our rules on Fri, November 4th of 2016
Lewiatan:
  • Shot a marine because he thought they shot him with an AP round, turns out they shot the wrong marine, warned on Wed, November 2nd of 2016
Memerus:
  • Banned|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Griefer- Picked up a shotgun and started to gun down many players in medical as a doctor, says it was their brother and giving them a benefit of doubt on Thu, November 3rd of 2016
Monolitowiec:
  • Had the name German Skeleton and was asked to please change it. on Wed, January 13th of 2016
Morganit:
  • Improper escalation, shot leo blackburn after being punched, verbally warned on Sun, October 9th of 2016
  • Banned|Duration: 14400 minutes|Reason: ERP; as a Runner, asked a Crusher "You wanna fuck?" Perma filed on forums. on Sun, October 9th of 2016
Muchomor:
  • Banned for a day for breaking don't be a dick rule, calling people faggots in looc. Then he shot Sisserth, when Sisserth responded by punching his character, he decided to shoot Sisserth more times as well as other marines in briefing to "defend himself." Banned for griefing due to unncesscary esclation of force. on Wed, February 3rd of 2016
Nibypies:
  • Shot up all of the command staff. When asked why, they responded with, "They were all awful, I had to do it.", and then said they didn't care if they were banned. on Fri, September 9th of 2016
Pijawa:
  • Banned|Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: Started shooting people in the RO line because the RO and MPs were not doing things how he wanted them to do things. I was only going to give you two days, but since you were kind enough to PM me over byond and tell me I can't count, here's that extra day you wanted. on Sat, September 10th of 2016
PL4SB0MB:
  • Named himself "Motherus Fuckerus" and was hitting other marines with lights at the start of the round, to "Break them". Warned to change his name and not to attack other Marines. on Sat, October 29th of 2016
Sovietov:
  • Banned|Duration: 720 minutes|Reason: EXTREME disrespect, and presumed meta rushing. on Tue, November 1st of 2016
  • after an investigation it was proved he did infact cause via order a meta rush. on Tue, November 1st of 2016
Stormsand:
  • Warned for using spec weapons as a standard. on Sat, October 29th of 2016
TOW:
  • Joined with the name 'Big Guy', claimed it was for an innocent gimmick. Was warned about the naming rule. on Sun, February 7th of 2016
Veh Deh Veh:
  • Was going around as a "rocket clown" on Tue, August 30th of 2016
  • Banned|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Grief - Improper Escalation - Went into RnD, Asked the Researcher to stand aside so they can kill the UNCONTROLLED Larvae, When the researcher pushed their away, the CO opened fire killing them with a Smartgun. on Tue, August 30th of 2016
Venomhead:
  • (first contact) Metagamed the hostility and danger of a runner. Shot it with a rocket launcher while it was sitting still in the dark, then announced to an incominc SL that the aliens were hostile. When I started questioning him about this, he assumed I was upset at him over some name calling (And explosion threatening) he did towards me IC'ly, and was extremely rude about it. I assumed that this is a one off thing and that he won't be nearly as disrespectful to other staff, so I simply told him to remain respectful and warned him about metagaming. on Fri, January 22nd of 2016

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Laserscope » 30 Aug 2017, 12:23

I am going to be perfectly honest there: The first time I saw the punishment for alleged ERPing, I laughed my ass off. Is saying "Wanna fuck?" as a joke before running off to hunt more victims for the nest really ERP worthy? I saw marines talk to eachother how big their dicks are, and twice in my time of playing there I saw marines unronically say the same thing I said to other female marines. As for other offences, it seems about right: A lot of them are team-kills as I remember, and I do agree that I was an immense dick before.

Just, uh, things like getting warned an exact offense of having my character named "German Skeleton" is what really bothers me, because as gimmicky as they sound, they're completely legitimate names and I had beef thrown on me about it while there were people parading around with names like Indrick Boreale, simply Boris, and one guy even had IIRC a surname or nickname "Auschwitz" in it. Just saying, those situations really irked me off, felt like I was treated unjustly in the bigger scale of things.

I also have some images flashing about the whole 'shooting two marines and a researcher' deal. I am not sure if that's the exact thing I think about, but if I recall correctly there were last two larvae on Sulaco, trapped in the research pens, and I know exactly how frustrating it is to have a round delayed over miniscule things, so I just went ahead as a COMMANDER and executed both larvae, or at least tried to; One I did kill, second ran off because of the researcher who then started battering my head over killing the larvae. So I obviously shot him death, together with two marines who speechlessly unslung their rifles and started blasting at me.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by NGGJamie » 30 Aug 2017, 13:29

After seeing those notes, changing to a big No.
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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Laserscope » 30 Aug 2017, 13:41

NGGJamie wrote:After seeing those notes, changing to a big No.
That's a fair decision, at least nobody can tell me that I didn't try appealing it! I'd rather stay fair rather than evade.

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Re: Permaban Appeal

Post by Feweh » 30 Aug 2017, 15:26

Abso-fucking-lutely DENIED.

This is a perma-ban that will remain forever.

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