Symbiosis/Thwei Kvvar-de

[Katsukai]

Your Byond Key:katsukai1

Your Character Name: Mature Crusher(591)

Accused Byond Key(if known): Symbiosis

Character Name: Thwei Kvvar-de

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):
6:37:10 AM CST
Tuesday 7th November 2017

What rule(s) were broken: Honor duels.

Description of the incident: Basically what happened was a series of events that lead to me to make this report, we were basically defending northern side of the river from pushing marines, until a marine made a good SADAR shot and got the queen, boiler and hivelord in the blast. Marines used this opportunity and spammed grenades, those who got caught in the blast died including the queen. We only had two crushers and one Prae remaining from T3 caste, so we decided we should retreat further back from the river, until we saw a prae being attacked by a predator, the prae clearly didn't wanted to fight and was shooting neurotoxin at the predator while running away slowly being crippled by a predator trap while receiving blows from Thwei Kvvar-de. Since it was just moments since we just lost the queen, this enraged the entire hive to attack the predator while some tried to keep the marines from attacking. The predator acted rather petty and kept trying to kill the prae while marines were pushing in a crucial moment but we managed to make him cloak away after he got wounded critically. But this meant he got to mark us for stopping his supposedly honor fight and I knew he would come after me later cause I stomped at him, but I hoped he knew that we just received a critical blow and we couldn't afford losing another T3 which why most of us tried to stop him killing the prae.

Time passed and we managed to push the marines back to hydro, we got a new queen and were still sitting at 2 Crushers, 1 prae with lot of T1 caste. I was making a breakthrough by charging at the hydro from north medical jungle into barricaded hydro north, after I made few passes. The predator cleverly sneaked a trap on the line where I was charging towards the barricades and appeared infront of me as I got trapped, I was retreating towards north the river and hoping my brood would see me in distress, cause I didn't want to fight with the predator and was occupied with fighting the marines also that we couldn't afford losing more T3s. I barely made 5 tiles to north and he just slashed me to death with his melee weapon, I couldn't do anything as a trapped crusher and died shortly without a fight. This made me rather salty and I would be focused on complaining on the deadchat without noticing that someone tried to deny his trophy by moving my body, the pred on question would go after the runners who moved the body and some of the hive notices the predator fighting with the runners and the other crusher comes to help them, which ended up the other crusher dying. I honestly found this distasteful cause he could always just cloak and drag the trophy with him or plasma caster the runners. While we were winning moments ago at hydro we suddenly were losing, cause another predator was fighting the prae and ended up suicide bombing the prae, runner which ended up on killing them and almost killing the queen, I wouldn't blame him to be honest cause he wasn't aware that Thwei Kvvar-de just killed two crushers. At this moment the hive lost all it's T3s.

Marines somehow didn't seize the opportunity the predators created and retreated to the nexus which lead the xenos to recover and claim the planet, but we were still largely outnumbered. Thwei Kvvar-de somehow wasn't satisfied that he just claimed two crushers, so he decided to free a nested specialist that is infected and dragging him away to bait xenos to attack him. This provoked most to try to get back the infected host from him, cause he was doing this infront of LZ1, which lead some of them to attack him and he of course justified this by killing several of them some that didn't even provoke him except trying to get back the infected host he stole.

in conclusion xenos got slaughtered and round ended in marine victory.

Even if he didn't really break any rules on some cases, I find his way of playing predator really petty and un-honorable, not to mention his lack of situation awareness that is very disturbing to round integrity

Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): I didn't take screenshots, cause I didn't expect him to be that petty towards end of the round.

How you would punish the accused: Up to community

[Feweh]

Nothing you reported here breaks any rules. You even mention yourself being aware that you disrupted his hunt and he was going to come for you, which he did.

[Katsukai]

Nothing you reported here breaks any rules. You even mention yourself being aware that you disrupted his hunt and he was going to come for you, which he did.

That what he did to me, isn't why I am reporting. I wouldn't see why a predator would commence a honor fight middle of a marine push on the currently losing side just when the queen and bunch of others got blasted by the marines or saving a captive marine from a nest just to provoke xenos to attack him to get some cheap kills. My death is mostly salt cause he sees crippling a xeno middle of charging marines fine and commencing a honor fight on the pat. He plays foul and dirty, which why I made this report and I wouldn't be suprised this will be the last complaint he will receive if he continues playing dirty and exploiting the holes in the honor code.

[Feweh]

He didnt exploit anything.

And hunting someone 1 vs 1 isnt an honor duel, its just hunting.

I dont think you understand the predator rules and honor code as nothing he did broke any rules.

[Symbiosis]

Right - So I'm not sure what your complaint is?

Is it that I chose you as a target after you proved yourself worth? (stomping me deep red, breaking my hand, and the fact I barely got away after having the hive swarm me?)

Is it that you died?

Is it that the Xenos lost the match?

The round ending in a Xeno stomp is because the Queen didn't lock the bird and you all got caught in the trap in the Hangar. I watched that, as many other people did. Me killing you wouldn't have changed the round. In fact... When I killed you I DID take your body away. All the way to the western caves - while the fighting at at Tfort. I was in the midst of a IC prayer to Paya offering you up as a Trophy when lo and behold - an Elite Spitter AND a Crusher come at me while I had removed myself from any fighting. They came for vengeance and blood.

To claim I freed the nested specialist is wrong. He was wandering at the bottom of the LZ, so I was going to duel him back on the Pred ship. I had him cuffed and legtrapped by the time any Xenos showed up - the fighting had just ended, so as far as I knew he was just running. You outnumbered the Marines to the point where they were able to call a distress beacon (or an admin sent CLF) so again, me killing you (as you kill Marines, and as Marines kill Xenos) didn't influence the round.

In conclusion - You call me petty for killing you after... you stomped me.

As far as situational awareness? I don't have all seeing eyes or the means to see if a Human is infected. I didn't "free them" from a nest - In fact, once you had taken him back I merely waited for him to "pop" so that I could take my leg trap and handcuffs off the body. I indicated as much to the Elite Hunter that was guarding the body - and after I kill YOU I didn't specifically target any Xenos that didn't attack me first for the rest of the round.

[Symbiosis]

That what he did to me, isn't why I am reporting. I wouldn't see why a predator would commence a honor fight middle of a marine push on the currently losing side just when the queen and bunch of others got blasted by the marines or saving a captive marine from a nest just to provoke xenos to attack him to get some cheap kills. My death is mostly salt cause he sees crippling a xeno middle of charging marines fine and commencing a honor fight on the pat. He plays foul and dirty, which why I made this report and I wouldn't be suprised this will be the last complaint he will receive if he continues playing dirty and exploiting the holes in the honor code.

FURTHER - You were full health so not crippled. 100%. You admit that you were salty so you made a Pred report. The Marines were kicked off the Planet - and had the Queen locked the dropship they wouldve likely rolled the Marines.

The Spec was NOT nested when I saw him. He was wandering by LZ1 along the south - and logs will show I even had time to cuff/legtrap him before Xenos showed up.

I'm pretty careful on not killing too many of one side or even many at all on low pop - I tend to play the Predator not as a "kill everything role" but as a high RP role. (If I want to murderbone I'll just spawn as a Xeno, but that's beside the point)

[Katsukai]

FURTHER - You were full health so not crippled. 100%. You admit that you were salty so you made a Pred report. The Marines were kicked off the Planet - and had the Queen locked the dropship they wouldve likely rolled the Marines.

The Spec was NOT nested when I saw him. He was wandering by LZ1 along the south - and logs will show I even had time to cuff/legtrap him before Xenos showed up.

I'm pretty careful on not killing too many of one side or even many at all on low pop - I tend to play the Predator not as a "kill everything role" but as a high RP role. (If I want to murderbone I'll just spawn as a Xeno, but that's beside the point)

Being legcuffed as crusher is basically crippled, me dying is not my complaint. I saw you just by the nests near the LZ1 with the specialist dragging so I assumed you freed him, my apologies. But you further escalating on the killing was kinda too much on my perspective after I witnessed you killing two T3s. The crusher was at the northern side of the river so I jumped to the conclusion on deadchat that he got killed from defending runners that tried to trophy steal. But what was with you, when you got the whole hive's attention when you just suddenly decided to try off the Prae when were being pushed by marines cause queen dying. I wouldn't made this complaint if you havent further continued killing xenos for trying to retrieve the specialist, seemed dickish.

[Feweh]

Resolved.

Dont make salty reports, there are 0 rule breaks here.