Ban Appeal - Harcourt

[Harcourt]

Your Byond ID: Harcourt

Character Name: Not sure + Its irrevelent

Type Of Ban (Job-ban, Timed Ban, Permaban): Permaban

Admin who banned you (if known): No clue

Total Ban Duration: Around a year I think

Remaining Duration: Perma

What other servers do you play on? I play on Yog, Goon, Halo: Space Station Evolved, and No Mans Land

Are you now or have you been banned on any of them? Nope.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): 05MAR17 - Greifer - Went Planetside and shot up several marines.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):

My Original Response: So uh, I dont even remember doing that or even playing much on CM when I first started ss13. (During my first week of ss13 i got banned from like 3 servers) Since starting I have become a pretty good player and I contribute to the community. Im well-ish known on yog and I am a developer for WW13 and Halo: Space Station Evolved. Now there could be one other reason im banned, my brother, who has the same ip, plays ss13 as well, his ckey is OnePunchRonan. You can ask yog for verification that we are different players since we have had issues with him getting ip banned and therefor effecting me. But yea im excited to start playing CM again.

New Response Addressing many issues:
Ok so look. Its been awhile. My brother with the ckey of OnePunchRonan was banned on here for greifing. My ckey is Harcourt. We are different people.
Quoting ZDashe here for proof:

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Harcourt

It appears I was the first staff who spoke to you on your first time on the server:
24th Feb 2017,
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[19:55:34]ACCESS: Login: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)
[19:56:46]SAY: Walker Guzman/Harcourt : Hmmm.
[20:00:39]ATTACK: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) attacked Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) with flare (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:01:43]ATTACK: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) attacked Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) with USCM meal ready to eat (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:02:51]ATTACK: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) attacked Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) with USCM meal ready to eat (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:04:58]ADMIN: ZDashe jumped to Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)
[20:05:07]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->Harcourt/(Walker Guzman): are you new to the server?
[20:05:34]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->Harcourt/(Walker Guzman): click on my name to reply me
[20:05:55]ADMIN: PM: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)->ZDashe: yea XD
[20:06:13]ADMIN: PM: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)->ZDashe: I am watching tutorials ATM
[20:06:26]ADMIN: PM: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)->ZDashe: Just trying to get the hang of it
[20:06:28]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->Harcourt/(Walker Guzman): yea... you look kinda lost.. Check the Wiki for info too if you need to. There's a button on the top right
[20:06:47]ADMIN: PM: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)->ZDashe: ok thanks
[20:07:23]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->Harcourt/(Walker Guzman): Also read the server rules, we have quite a list, but it's important so that you don't get yourself in trouble. Cheers
[20:07:28]ADMIN: PM: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)->ZDashe: Sure
[20:13:24]ACCESS: Logout: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman) 
...
In the next round,
22:18:42]ACCESS: Login: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)
[22:24:50]ADMIN: PM: ZDashe->Harcourt/(Walker Guzman): what are you doing?
[22:25:00]ATTACK: Walker Guzman (harcourt) shot Alice 'La Fayette' Sanders with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=194;Y=167;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x500001c]'>PM</a>)
[22:25:00]ATTACK: Walker Guzman (harcourt) shot Alice 'La Fayette' Sanders with a the rifle bullet (<A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=194;Y=167;Z=3'>JMP</a>) (<a href='?priv_msg=[0x500001c]'>PM</a>)
[22:25:02]ACCESS: Logout: Harcourt/(Walker Guzman)
<<< Banned for griefing >>>
Thereafter, you only played in 4 short rounds on March before your Brother got permabanned for griefing.

Notes:
Banned|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Griefing - shot a marine for no reason on Fri, February 24th of 2017
Yogstation public ban list: https://www.yogstation.net/index.php?do ... h=Harcourt
Appeal for Yogstation permaban: https://forums.yogstation.net/index.php ... ing.13154/
OnePunchRonan (Brother)
First round on 5th March 2017,
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[19:02:11]ACCESS: Login: OnePunchRonan/(Ronan Downie)
[19:03:53]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : Excuse me
[19:04:01]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : Where is the prep room?
[19:04:08]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : To get my gear?
[19:04:24]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : Could you show me?
[19:05:10]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : Charlie
[19:05:49]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : Wait which one?
[19:16:10]ATTACK: OnePunchRonan/(Ronan Downie) attacked -/(Arny Borgle) with M39 submachinegun (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[19:18:19]ACCESS: Logout: OnePunchRonan/(Ronan Downie)
[19:18:37]ACCESS: Login: OnePunchRonan/(Ronan Downie)
[19:22:15]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : How do I reload the SMG?
[19:22:30]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : How? Im new.
[19:22:48]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : I got it
[19:23:04]SAY: Ronan Downie/OnePunchRonan : I know. 
<<< Followed by many attack logs of attacking and shooting fellow marines >>>
Notes:
Banned|Duration: 14400 minutes|Reason: GRiefing - Went down to the planet and shot up the marines planetside on Sun, March 5th of 2017

Now thats out of the way Im going to address the ban evading topic.
So here's how it went down.
I had a job over the summer analyzing youtube algorithms at a university.
I wrote some javascript code but it was being rejected by youtube's server
so I said on the NML discord that I needed to get a proxy going before running my script or something like that
and fyi i was talking about this while the appeal was open
so feweh gets on and accuses me of ban evading and closes the appeal.
I can provide chat logs and such and maybe get some non-revealing proof for the uni job.

Now the second issue. Threats to shut down CM.
Yea thats a joke really. Any threats you assumed I made were to be taken as jokes. I have no bad will for the CM server and I actually think you guys have created a pretty cool version of ss13.
I do though, apologise for the childishness in those jokes.

And the last isssue. reddit drama.
There is not much I can say here. Im repulsed by what I said on those subreddits. I cant give you some bullshit excuse to why I said what I said. So thats that.

[Feweh]

Let me lay out your shit for everyone nicely with the attached screenshots for some clarity


1. Multi-keying viewtopic.php?f=87&t=14108&p=152272#p152272
2. Threatening to Ban Evade viewtopic.php?f=87&t=14108&p=152272#p152272 // ʇɹnoɔɹɐH - 07/25/2017 Also how does related ckey work. oh no im ban evading
3. Threatening to DDOS/Take CM down by claiming copy-right. https://i.imgur.com/S9QOlcz.png
4. Going onto /SS13 Reddit and purposely inciting drama. https://imgur.com/Y7JoH0Q
5. Racism and numerous hate speech. (Image removed by APOP, it contained identifying information he released unintentionally).
6. Telling kids on a suicide help forum to "KILL THEMSELVES" https://imgur.com/Y7JoH0Q & http://i.imgur.com/TUx2z9y.png
7. Attempting to DOX me specifically. https://gyazo.com/c5ceffd61785982f5323bfa0c000a297
8. General mass toxic behavior within the CM and SS13 community.
9. Taking old CM code and implementing it on NML without permission. (This is debatable but your name was brought up numerous times for this)


The truth is you're a shitty fucking person, who really isn't going to change. When people found out your personal information, real name, location and telephone number... I alerted you out of the kindness of my heart, not because you deserved it. You instead SHIT all over me and CM despite my kindness and continued your same old toxic bullshit behavior over at NML.


People like you shouldn't be allowed in the SS13 community, you're toxic, you're malicious and you're a huge shit stain.
I can't remove from you SS13 community, but I can stop shit fucking people like you from ever being part of the CM community again.


Apophis wants me to be more tactful, so with that in-mind.
Kindly go fuck yourself

[Harcourt]

Alright Feweh. Im going to address each of your points.

1. I have no Idea what your point about multikeying is. That link does not show anything. OnePunchRonan is a different player then Harcourt. We covered this in the last appeal. Ask a Yog staff member for clarification or just look at the public ban list.
2.Nothing in your link provided shows any ban evasion. Im going to take some screen shots of my Discord logs.
https://ibb.co/d92ZAw
https://ibb.co/b5psxb
https://ibb.co/k0cHVw
3. The image you provided shows nothing besides me making a joke. I clarified many time that it was a J O K E.
4. That was my personal Reddit history. I have no defense to what I said there. I have an apology but if I posted it here it would just seem foolish.
5. Jesus chirst. This is why I contacted apop. Same response as number 4.
6. Same as number 4
7. That was not a dox its called a joke. Seriously "asking for a friend"
8. Thats subjective. I was a shitter and I dont have an excuse.
9. What the fuck are you talking about. First of all I have no idea of any CM code being implemented. And if so It was done by some of the higher staff members. Check the NML github and you can see my changes on there.

Again me acting shitty and like an ass has no excuse. Sure I can try to justify what i said but that would not help. I dont want to join CM again so I can debate morals with people. I really just want to play the CM gamemode and enjoy it. Listen feweh I might think you are an ass but in reality I have no bad will for CM. Is it up for you to judge if people can play a video game or not? We don't know if you really are a good person so you have no right to be a judge. I could assume that everyone on this server has made a bad decision or said something stupid.

[solidfury7]

I'm generally known as the guy who always gives out second chances and redemption clauses. But due to your history it makes it very hard to give you the benefit of the doubt.

It's unfortunate, you may have grown as a person but at the end of the day, its your words versus you past.


I'd have to lean on a -1 on this, I'd personally advise you work on yourself and your reputation if you really wish to return to this community, however you will require a lot of work after the evidence Feweh has uploaded to convince anyone you've even remotely changed and this isn't just another lie.

[Feweh]

. Is it up for you to judge if people can play a video game or not?

Yes


As well, this is a couple of months after all the initial Drama.

https://prnt.sc/gw4xl9

You haven't changed AT ALL.

[slc97]

Oh shit, you're the guy who fuckin begged me to remove your ban and when I said I couldn't, you banned me from the NML discord.

Ya know, actually no hard feelings on that. I'll look completely past that and you are just a trash basket of a human being. You straight up we're telling suicidal people on a suicide watch forum to kill themselves. You're worse than the normal failures of players we see here. You're a failure as a person.

[Harcourt]

Oh shit, you're the guy who fuckin begged me to remove your ban and when I said I couldn't, you banned me from the NML discord.

Ya know, actually no hard feelings on that. I'll look completely past that and you are just a trash basket of a human being. You straight up we're telling suicidal people on a suicide watch forum to kill themselves. You're worse than the normal failures of players we see here. You're a failure as a person.

Actually both of those are untrue. From looking at our PM logs I just asked you to to look at the captures i made so I could prove I was not ban evading. I have included a link to that image.
https://ibb.co/cfU6sb

And I never banned you from the NML discord. I am currently looking at the audit logs and see no sign of you being banned by me. If anything i wanted you on the discord so I could advocate because originally this was about suspected ban evasion. Image also included.
https://ibb.co/g1HFkw

And to address you calling me a horrible human being. There is the idea that the internet is a separate from your personal self. This is not true but for me it was at the time. I cant explain why I went on a suicide subreddit and told people to kill themselves but my thought process on doing that was an combination of regret and self loathing. Im not saying that me feeling like shit was an excuse to shit on someone else. I could go all into a deep sad story about my life but to be honest noone gives a shit and you shouldn't. Those people on reddit at the time just seemed like usernames on the screen so hurting them took no effort. It was the dehumanization of them that made it easy. So basicly in the end, I was being a bully. No question about it. My actions were regrettable, stupid, and generally horrible, I would take it all back if I could.

I know this wont change most people's opinion on me but I would like to know if it could ever be possible to redeem myself not just so I could play CM but so im not seen as some heartless asshole to everyone here.

[Wubs4Scrubs]

So basicly in the end, I was being a bully. No question about it. My actions were regrettable, stupid, and generally horrible, I would take it all back if I could.

I know this wont change most people's opinion on me but I would like to know if it could ever be possible to redeem myself not just so I could play CM but so im not seen as some heartless asshole to everyone here.

Honestly, you shouldn't be apologizing to us for your this bullshit. What you should fucking do is send a heartfelt apology to each and every goddamn one of those vulnerable people that you took a shit on in their time of need. What you did isn't bullying, it's far beyond that. The shit you did could've potentially impacted the outcome of somebody's life, another human being could've taken their own life after the shit you pulled. Not only that, but you went out of your way to target people who are in need of help the most, I don't care how you attempt reasonably explain or make sense of that, you've made the world worse with your actions.

I'm sure I'm not alone here in saying that I've personally struggled with depression and have had friends go through mental facilities for suicidal thoughts/actions and to even conceive of somebody doing what you did makes my fucking blood boil. What you did is done, you can't take back the things you've said and I for one don't care how changed you claim to be after seeing those screenshots. Claiming you've changed is the easy part, actually showing it is more difficult, and I'm not kidding when I say that you should track down the people who you sent those messages to on Reddit and explaining to them the same things you have here and doing your best to make amends.

[Harcourt]

Honestly, you shouldn't be apologizing to us for your this bullshit. What you should fucking do is send a heartfelt apology to each and every goddamn one of those vulnerable people that you took a shit on in their time of need. What you did isn't bullying, it's far beyond that. The shit you did could've potentially impacted the outcome of somebody's life, another human being could've taken their own life after the shit you pulled. Not only that, but you went out of your way to target people who are in need of help the most, I don't care how you attempt reasonably explain or make sense of that, you've made the world worse with your actions.

I'm sure I'm not alone here in saying that I've personally struggled with depression and have had friends go through mental facilities for suicidal thoughts/actions and to even conceive of somebody doing what you did makes my fucking blood boil. What you did is done, you can't take back the things you've said and I for one don't care how changed you claim to be after seeing those screenshots. Claiming you've changed is the easy part, actually showing it is more difficult, and I'm not kidding when I say that you should track down the people who you sent those messages to on Reddit and explaining to them the same things you have here and doing your best to make amends.

I think that's the right thing to do.

[slc97]

Yeah, you banned me to the Gulag and I had to PM another dev to have me unbanned. That doesn't particularly matter to me though.

Your actions speak much louder than your words, and your actions were subhuman and fuckin scummy. if you're looking for redemption go to a fuckin church or some shit and go do some volunteer work at a homeless shelter. Whatever will make you feel better about yourself. You're not coming back here though.

[Feweh]

Ya this is obviously denied.

You wont be returning to CM ever again.