Battlefield Executions

[LocalizedDownpour]

I don't want to say it's a touchy subject, and I don't think they happen all too often...maybe once every three or so rounds...

But the Nazi memes aside, I watched Heinz BE the XO of all people today because he couldn't take off his armor. From the sounds of LOOC the guy didn't even know how to. There were MPs there, we hadn't even started briefing yet.

I really wanted to make a player report about this, but the marine law DOES state it can be done for any reason, I was just flabbergasted that I saw this happen. Is there a limit to how the BE function works. Or if you sneeze wrong at the CO is it blammo city?

[Feweh]

Dont sneeze

[LocalizedDownpour]

Fair enough I guess.

I thought it was really only supposed to be used for clear and present danger, countermanding orders and hurting the structural integrity of the OP.

I typically never do enough to warrant MP attention let alone a BE but I could have really earned on that round given how Cato was treating the CO ICly after that incident.

[Shyguychizzy]

This did happened current roundo but I have a bit of speech abroad BEs as experienced CO from the start of BEs. Perhaps, just like the Predator Honor Code was re-explained for peeps to fully understand might help current COs or soon to be or even regular peeps. There was a clarification long ago, during my Staffing time which I quite like hence it clearly stated the intent of BE and rulin of such. That clarification was lost somewhere among somewhere at some point in time.

Edit: Yeah, shitty XO's bein ahem executed I am alright with depending if they are shitty or simply or unless clearly bald/newbie depending on their intent or what they do eh. Reason why we can be justified with our BE's via admin at times. Can get our Whitelists removed if it were just shitty BEs

[LocalizedDownpour]

As far as it stands, at least from what I see...

..If the CO doesn't like you the smallest thing can get you a BE, but then why have MPs. In the midst of combat no following an order can get a BE cause it's do or die...but before the briefing? In front of everyone minutes before the brief?
That seems to be one of those exceptions on 'Hey you shouldn't Mateba someone.'

[thatguyfromlife]

I mean, the guy was a bald as can be and the MP's had him cuffed, so a BE might've been a little much at that point.

plz don't BE me for saying that

[Simo94]

somewhere along the line people forgot the ''would this happen in a real life situation??'' basic rule of general roleplaying..........


edit: IMO, Battlefield Execution should only be used when someone refuses to execute an order, also note that failing to execute an order does not mean refusing it, it just means the individual is incompetent which is okay because we do not punish people who FF for example

[LocalizedDownpour]

Can't take your armor off? Well that's a blamming

[SovietKitty]

BEing someone in front a horde of marines is a dangerous concept.

[Shyguychizzy]

I mean I will admit, at one point a XO which sorta a average player due to me not agreeing to their plan integratin my own plan only including one or two things of their plan constantly called me. "Fuck Boy" , and other insults. This was in CIC during planning hours roughly eh 20ish minutes or around that time. Due to constant insults which gave sorta RPly point sorta warnin and such. Which techincally yeah CO could do it at any given moment at anytime. Sorta iffy with that BE though, maybe proper brigging at most. Possibly BEing the shitlers around might been a bit more better then earlier but eh. I mean you can legally Execute anyone at any given time, even MPs surprisingly depending on the situation.

[Shyguychizzy]

BEing someone in front a horde of marines is a dangerous concept.

Its sorta a gamble, some people works out for em depending how shitty the distraction was. Its like 50/50 chance marines will find it honorable and have "+10 Respect Points" or fear yah or just plain right out hate yah. I mean I do avoid circumstances like this, I sorta have gone soft with BE's myself.

[Bancrose]

In this one particular execution I felt it was much. But if you don't follow an order and your the XO infront of all of the marines. It might give some marines funny ideas.

I've BE'd someone for killing jones at roundstart.
I've BE'd people for inciting a riot.

But this one guy I felt particular bad because I dont think he even knew what he was doing was wrong. But if you deny an order in front of EVERY marine on the ship. Especially as the XO, why should the marines give a shit what you even say most of the round. But yeah I shoulda just cryo'd him so another XO could join the round.

[Shyguychizzy]

In this one particular execution I felt it was much. But if you don't follow an order and your the XO infront of all of the marines. It might give some marines funny ideas.

I've BE'd someone for killing jones at roundstart.
I've BE'd people for inciting a riot.

But this one guy I felt particular bad because I dont think he even knew what he was doing was wrong. But if you deny an order in front of EVERY marine on the ship. Especially as the XO, why should the marines give a shit what you even say most of the round. But yeah I shoulda just cryo'd him so another XO could join the round.

I mean, Jones I can accept being it is your feline companion.
Somebody encitin riot/mutiny in that standpoint yeah I'd shoot the one startin the shit either if MPs or I. The leader/aggrovator if sometimes.
Its 50/50 chance dependin on XO and whatnot, XO did seem newish as techincally XO spoke OOCly ICly as you noticed. I mean eh, ahelpin about them and havin us MPs was an option at the time. Then again, we gotta remember; as Commanders this is our sorta special Ability which can be given at any moment and time we deem it fit. Yeah, like a Predator for instance we do take people out and techincally with BE you can take a marine's life out/take them out of the game consequence as well. Not yer average baldie as Commander, most Commanders are a lot of main or trusted Average Joes. "NO NOT THE LITERALLY JOE COMMANDER SOMETHIN" .

[Bancrose]

I mean, Jones I can accept being it is your feline companion.
Somebody encitin riot/mutiny in that standpoint yeah I'd shoot the one startin the shit either if MPs or I. The leader/aggrovator if sometimes.
Its 50/50 chance dependin on XO and whatnot, XO did seem newish as techincally XO spoke OOCly ICly as you noticed. I mean eh, ahelpin about them and havin us MPs was an option at the time. Then again, we gotta remember; as Commanders this is our sorta special Ability which can be given at any moment and time we deem it fit. Yeah, like a Predator for instance we do take people out and techincally with BE you can take a marine's life out/take them out of the game consequence as well. Not yer average baldie as Commander, most Commanders are a lot of main or trusted Average Joes. "NO NOT THE LITERALLY JOE COMMANDER SOMETHIN" .

I wont lie Balto I felt remorse for this ONE execution. On top of that I didn't notice he LOOC'd it. Until it was too late. I totally should have let him go get cryo'd or something but I wasn't ready to babysit a brand new XO that couldn't unbuckle himself from a chair. I sorta jumped the gun. I'll let the baldies have a chance next time but I wanted everyone to be certain that I dont tolerate insub.

[Shyguychizzy]

I wont lie Balto I felt remorse for this ONE execution. On top of that I didn't notice he LOOC'd it. Until it was too late. I totally should have let him go get cryo'd or something but I wasn't ready to babysit a brand new XO that couldn't unbuckle himself from a chair. I sorta jumped the gun. I'll let the baldies have a chance next time but I wanted everyone to be certain that I dont tolerate insub.

All gud fam, yeah. I didn't get to give em the old baton.

[Bancrose]

All gud fam, yeah. I didn't get to give em the old baton.

I should actually start using my MP's as the literal gestapo more. I forget that you guys are bored for most of the round.

[Shyguychizzy]

I should actually start using my MP's as the literal gestapo more. I forget that you guys are bored for most of the round.

I mean, got Military Police dressed in blood red, marked blacked armor. CMP looks the part already. Why not use em, I love high pop rounds and havin multiple MPs gettin the job done even if its dumb for some instances, Three or four people brigged for questioning with out a question. Marines don't give a shit really sometimes.

[Bancrose]

I mean, got Military Police dressed in blood red, marked blacked armor. CMP looks the part already. Why not use em, I love high pop rounds and havin multiple MPs gettin the job done even if its dumb for some instances, Three or four people brigged for questioning with out a question. Marines don't give a shit really sometimes.

Balto I wish you were CMP when I got to delimb people. You would have loved it.

[Kesserline]

As a CO : I am trying to BE only Xenos, to boost morale (plus, it's awesomely badass). "Consider yourself.. *MATEBA MATEBA MATEBA* ... Battlefield executed." ==> *salutes in the background.

I have the CMP, and even if the CMP is meh, there are always good MPs to work with. CO doesn't need to BE, unless there is NO other option.

I prefer having the dude demoted and/or brigged or even perma (if the charges go with that) and take back the slot rather than BE the dude without letting him a chance from learning from his mistake. But even with that, anyway, MP can deal with it.

[Shyguychizzy]

What we think happens:

As a CO : I am trying to BE only Xenos, to boost morale (plus, it's awesomely badass). "Consider yourself.. *MATEBA MATEBA MATEBA* ... Battlefield executed." ==> *salutes in the background.

Reality: *fires mateba wildly into group of xenos in CIC....hits three or four marines causing their demise*

[Kesserline]

Nah, only use the mateba on critted Xenos, for a more badassness outcome. Or on clear areas, to make sure that Xenos lower their ugly faces.

Firing on walking Xenos is meh, except if you have a RDS on your beloved Mateba.

[Sir Lordington]

See, as the foremost expert on Battlefield executions, the key to not being BE'd is to not fuck about in front of the CO. Keep your fuckery behind his back.

Also, don't piss the CO off enough that he goes looking for you despite you not being in front of him.

Battlefield executions often serve an entirely different purpose from MPs. Everyone gets brigged a lot of the time. Brig is great when you want to punish someone. Battlefield executions? Those make a point loudly and clearly.

I believe XO is the role I have executed the most (CL might be up there, because they like sheananigans). Why? First off, the XO is usually close. The more time you spend close to a CO, the more likely you are to be executed since there are simply more situations that may lead to it. But second and most importantly, because the XO is the CO's right hand. Therefore, they must be heldto high standards and cannot be seen disobeying or countermanding the CO. If an SO fucks up, you've got five others. They're command, sure, but they're replaceable and have a different status. XO decides to go against your orders, you have to make an example out of him. And blowing their brains out on the spot is loud, visual and messy. Having them dragged away simply does not have the same kind of impact.

[Thatnewguy1]

At what point can a person execute civilian personnel? Its a lot easier to understand a commander shooting a disobedient boot, but shooting a lowly bureaucrat instead of having them arrested seems a bit, much.

[Skimmy2]

When's the last time MPs have confronted the CO/Faxed high command about a unlawful BE?

I mean that's the entire point of regulating BEs through IC consequences.

[DriedMilk]

The point of BEs is to kill anyone on sight, no one shall survive.

Briefing?
Dump all your ammo on random Marines, nobody cares about them.

XO crying?
Blow his head off, nobody cares.

A Marine with no legs and no arms is unwilling to fight?
Space him through disposals, he wasn't important anyways.