Why Medbay Underperforms

[Surrealistik]

1. Key, time saving drugs like combination Imidazoline + Alkysine (one stop shop for eye/brain damage repair; 3 : 1 ratio, Imidazoline to Alkysine is best) and 20U Oxy + 2U Paracetamol +2U Spaceacillin (for fast surgery) are rarely made.
2. A proper cryomix is rarely prepared: 60U: (10U Cryoaxadone, 10U Cloneaxadone, 10U Imidazoline, 10U Iron, 5U Peridaxon, 5U Alkysine, 5U Dexalin Plus, 5U Spaceacillin) or 120U (use buckets from the autolathe): (10U Cryoaxadone, 10U Cloneaxadone, 10U Tricordrazine, 10U Bicaridine, 10U Dylovene, 10U Dermaline, 10U Kelotane, 10U Imidazoline, 10U Iron, 5U Quickclot, 5U Paracetamol, 5U Peridaxon 5U Alkysine (slow metabolism rate), 5U Dexalin Plus, 5U Spaceacillin)
3. Cryo is rarely utilized as a direct result of #2.
4. Cryo coolers are constantly and needlessly set to an energy annihilating 1 degree kelvin (50K is fine).
5. Medibots are rarely made.
6. MedVends are kept in their poorly accessible default places.
7. Robolimbs are rarely pre-produced (keep one of each on hand at all times; tell the MTs/CTs to fill them with metal).
8. A spare surgery kit is often not ordered (even when it would prove beneficial).
9. Lazy doctors insist on doing all their surgeries via Autodoc (or don't do them at all). Even on manual this thing is slow as hell; have them actually do their damn job and do the surgeries themselves; Autodoc is there to help manage excess patients as a last, and not first resort.
10. Lazy doctors don't pick up patients from the lobby/dropships.
11. Lazy doctors don't perform surgery with spare surgery kits outside of the theatres as necessary (use roller beds, Oxy + Inaprovaline/Paracetamol/Tramadol).
12. Bad CMOs don't authorize obviously beneficial medicines.

Let's step it up Medbay.

Further reading: viewtopic.php?f=94&t=10868

[Skeptical]

Thanks for this, I shall use it as a template for proper CMO duties.

Though, I've always wondered why nobody uses cryo tubes at all even when I put clonexadone in it?

[YungCuz]

Well no one really uses cryo in general even THOUGH it'd be helpful

[simonset55]

Mind telling me how cryo is useful, usually you have to perform surgery on the marines and i feel that it'd be faster to just pop some pills in them to heal them during surgery, instead of putting them in cryo where you then have to drag them all they way to the OR after their wounds have been healed. Am i just missing something or is cryo kinda useless. Can it heal organ damage?

[Surrealistik]

Added a note about lazy ass doctors using the Autodoc as a crutch.

Mind telling me how cryo is useful, usually you have to perform surgery on the marines and i feel that it'd be faster to just pop some pills in them to heal them during surgery, instead of putting them in cryo where you then have to drag them all they way to the OR after their wounds have been healed. Am i just missing something or is cryo kinda useless. Can it heal organ damage?

Cryo's main uses are two fold:

Rapidly healing and stabilizing very badly wounded marines/revivals (it can generally do it faster and better than you can via meds). To be fair, if you are the sort of doctor that sees dead patients as an opportunity to operate without pesky anesthetics or deteriorating conditions to worry about, this isn't so much a benefit (you can't set bones if your patient is too fucked up though).

It can rapidly heal brain and eye damage with Alkysine and Imidazoline in the mix (if you have pills though, and you should, good stuff cause you won't need cryo to do this).

Cryo is most useful when you've set up a surgery station by/in front of it to directly deposit your post-mortem surgery patient into after revival, or to then stabilize, heal, scan and surgery if you're out to fix bones after dealing with the annoying stuff (like organ damage/IB).

Personally I think that Peridaxon should actually heal the organs of people specifically in cryo to give it a little more utility, but I don't think that's going to happen.

[Sulaboy]

Cryo tubes are great, they feel necessary when some marine comes in with over 100 damage be it brute or burn. You make a mix of clonexadone, alkysine, and imizaline. If someone comes in with an OD you can toss them in cryo to reset those damages then rush them over to dialysis. It slows down larva growth, and pauses internal bleeding. Cryo is a good tool for doctors. I wish there was a medicine that just repaired heart damage. It can cause another surgery if the patient was defibbed. If they did add some sort of heart medication then the toxic reaction between hyperzine and peridaxon could be changed to whatever this heart damage would be called.

[Rio]

This on top of a particularly bad wave of doctors is primarily why I beg to be autodoc'd unless I'm infected.

I'd rather sit for a few minutes to be sure I'm absolutely fixed than spend the next two minutes after surgery trying to find if they really did fix me up entirely. Plus it gets me some time to go make some iced tea.

[xywenx00]

All you need is a toolbox and a bandage+ointment to be good doctor. Damn kids with their "cryo tubes" pfft.

[Pseudomaniac]

The main reason medbay has been underperforming is because of the loss of labcoats

Why are we still here? Just to lose our labcoats? Every night I can still feel my blue scrubs, my red scrubs, even my medical jumpsuits.
The clothes I've lost, the extra suit storage slots I've lost, it won't stop hurting, it's like they're all still there.
You feel it too don't you?

(SUPPLEMENTARY VIDEO) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKhpE-oNoGY

[Sulaboy]

The main reason medbay has been underperforming is because of the loss of labcoats.

Give me back my coats so I can store my health scanner in my suit slot. Give me back my blue and red scrubs so I can be distinguishable.

[Surrealistik]

The main reason medbay has been underperforming is because of the loss of labcoats

Why are we still here? Just to lose our labcoats? Every night I can still feel my blue scrubs, my red scrubs, even my medical jumpsuits.
The clothes I've lost, the extra suit storage slots I've lost, it won't stop hurting, it's like they're all still there.
You feel it too don't you?

(SUPPLEMENTARY VIDEO) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VKhpE-oNoGY

https://gitlab.com/cmdevs/ColonialMarines/issues/2421

[misto]

my first and main exposure to ss13 was goonstation's simple joke surgeries and miracle chemicals so looking at your med systems here just makes me wince. it's almost as bad as trying to figure out telescience with a calculator and notepad. so if you want to know why i think your medbay might be underpeforming, it's just 2 dam complex. 2 many clix. who got time for that

[superjo98]

During the times when I played doctor I never ran chemistry because I wasn't fast at it. Making any drugs that weren't found as bottles in the vendor was a pain because there are just too many steps. Cryoxodone would be a good example. I just never felt like memorizing the recipes, although in the future I probably will try and also attempt to make a good cryomix so there isn't a marine sitting in there for 5 minutes.

[Hughgent]

With the new marine laws, there isn't much reason anymore to not work on that fantastic cryomix. I'll also attempt to convince my CMO to order the surgery crate for Cryo sugery (Operating Room C)

[TheDonkified]

You can make robust cryomixes as medbay, you just can't make super chems for medics.

[Surrealistik]

With the new marine laws, there isn't much reason anymore to not work on that fantastic cryomix. I'll also attempt to convince my CMO to order the surgery crate for Cryo sugery (Operating Room C)

Surgery in the central supply room adjacent to one of the MedVends is also a good idea.