How to melee properly?

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How to melee properly?

Post by ThePiachu » 20 Apr 2018, 04:03

I often play Xenos, so I'd like to get better at melee combat. I have a feeling I'm missing something - recently me and another Xeno buddy got engaged in melee combat with a robit armed with a wrench and we couldn't get a hit on him, while we both came out of that engagement with half health.

As I understand the basics, you have to choose the proper stance, be next to your target, and then double click them to attack. Is that all there is to combat, or am I missing something?

I see people weaving in an out of range, taking swings and so on and that looks like something that would be hard to pull off with how fast the game runs for me...
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by simonset55 » 20 Apr 2018, 04:25

As far as i know, the only real tactic is spam click the enemy hoping you hit first while trying to dodge them. That's the spessman way
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Borisvanmemes » 20 Apr 2018, 06:21

Yeah, simonset55 is right
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Bronimin » 20 Apr 2018, 06:36

Keep your mouse over your opponent and click repeatedly while dodging and weaving to make it as hard as possible for your opponent to do the same to you.

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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Renomaki » 20 Apr 2018, 21:18

Melee combat is always kinda iffy, moreso when fighting something that can easily push you down in one hit, let alone spit on you.

Really, Melee is a combination of bravery and luck. You might make all your hits connect and do considerable damage to your target, or you spam M1 and nothing seems to happen, meanwhile your target is kicking your ass and you don't know how the hell they are able to do it.

And all that acid splatter doesn't help matters much. It gives xenos a bit of an edge in combat, while the marines get put into pain crit of they get splashed too much. A lot of risk vs reward, if I do say so myself.

... Yet it is still satisfying regardless of all the crap that comes with melee. And getting a melee kill is one of the best things in the world as a marine... While melee kills as a xeno is just another Tuesday.
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by KaiserBlackwood » 21 Apr 2018, 04:26

Melee is way too complicated for non-robust players, I try to engage only when I have advantage over enemy, like when marine is alone and you are runner or hunter, or 3 marines versus 1 T1 xeno. Marines hand-to-hand is just luck luck and luck, you click faster with intent disarm you win, slower — you lose.
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Chaznoodles » 21 Apr 2018, 06:12

Go play Hippie or TG for a while is the only advice I can offer.

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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Shuffl3 » 21 Apr 2018, 07:41

Just play runner a lot until you get the hang of it.
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by BillyBoBBizWorth » 22 Apr 2018, 01:32

Its the strangest thing, you play as a marine and get disarmed/stunned so easily and cant seem to get your knife out and stab it within that 0.74 seconds of a window you had.Then you play the xeno thinking, well this must be fucking easy then! End up getting somehow killed in a one on one with a marine.Huh? So you play marine again and say "alright i got it this time!!" and get pushed over and decapped in one swipe from a T1.Oh goody.It seems aside from the RNG/Luck factor, the two main ones to achieve success seem to be a good ping/internet connection(hopefully better and faster than anyone you encounter) and hand eye coodination clicky/ing experience.I think these are the kind of people playing that get high xeno to marine kill ratios.

I wont speak for others, but i know i have seen this alot.How many times have you seen a marine just standing still whilst a xeno is just seemingly slashing them up with no resistance? Well that marine probably would be trying to react to that, if he could, but he cant.How many times do you see a xeno just standing still and getting shot/knifed up from a marine? Very rare indeed.Hmm.
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Re: How to melee properly?

Post by Sulaboy » 22 Apr 2018, 03:33

It's got to do with tiles and sprites. You are considered to be inside the square before your sprite shifts to it, so the way to deal with someone moving to the tile next to you to melee you is to have your cursor on them while their Sprite moves and spam click, click dragging won't cause an attack so that makes it weird.So yeah just follow the other guy's Sprite with your cursor and spam click.
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