Your Character Name: Mature Ravager(870)
Accused Byond Key(if known): Unknown
Character Name: Unknown
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 5.26.18 ~5:00pm CST
What rule(s) were broken:
This is gonna be rough because I'm not a pred player and there isnt a lot of material avaliable to help figure out the practical interpretations of the rules. But I think I can put together an argument around these three rules.
1. Follow the Predator Code of Honor.
2. You are a Predator
3. You are NOT a murder-spree antagonist
To me, it seems widely understood that predators suffer from lax design and kneejerk maintence but this is tolerable because of the extra risk of attempting higher-RP in sort of environment. The extra leeway that preds get mechanically is supposed to be balanced by the players that will only use them to provide interesting interactions and not just "merk on valids." Im making this report because the scenario felt more the latter instead of the former.
Description of the incident:
>Be Ravager ravaging on LV
>Queen issues general orders to attack pred killing sisters at east river
>Move to assist, encounter two preds engaged at the east jungles by the river
>Charge at and connect with one so I leave it to my fellows and move to engage the other
>Other pred flees so I pursue until it runs across the marine lines stretched through the cargo domes.
>Disengage and take position watching the chokepoints in the eastern jungle
>See pred moving towards the chokepoints and move to intercept
>Lock eyes with the pred on the other side of chokepoint. It roars, I charge.
>Charge connects with pred and I find myself instantly stunned from a predtrap
>Nearby warrior engages to defend me from the pred and the two run off.
>Move to a better position nearby and begin to remove the trap
>Wait for the trap to be removed
>Wait for the trap to be removed
>Wait for the trap to be removed(How long does CM think a minute is anyways?)
>Wait for the tr-get blasted by a plasma rifle from offscreen
>Get stabbed to death in three seconds by a pred
>Watch pred take body to the ships trophy room
1. Follow the Predator Code of Honor: Now this may not be known to everybody but a predator trap renders a xenomorph unable to use their abilities, tackle, or move at a speed above a crawl(maybe prevents evo/upgrade gain too?). Removing a trap forces the xenomorph to remain motionless for a minute(like way over a minute). This absolutely fits the definition of Dishonorable & Innocent Prey in that the xenomorph is unable to fight to their full potential due to disabilities, injuries or pre-occupations. All bets are off with unworthy prey, but I think you'd really have to strech to have considered me only worth being incapacitated and casually killed later. Especially with the pred eventually claiming me as trophy.
2. You are a Predator: If preds only cared about what they killed and not how they killed it a predator could get all the honor they ever wanted from the comfort of high orbit. Casually slaughtering a target thats unable to fight back and claiming it as a trophy is like going baby seal clubbing and then mounting the head of one above your mantle.
3. You are NOT a murder-spree antagonist: Maybe the pred had another target, maybe it was looking for the body of another predator, maybe it just didnt want to fight me. I dunno, but runnin around uncloaked and roaring at xenomorphs that can and will fight you is asking for it. If the goal of trapping me was to neutralize a difficulty while working towards a greater goal, mission accomplished. Killing me while I was trapped and out of the way was gratuitious.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
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There's no point to a real punishment. Predators and pred traps are just poorly designed and the use of pred traps in combat is a symptom of that. For the last few months Predators seemed to understand that and only used them responsibly for lodge defense and RP memes but for some reason they recently started using them like this again. I'd prefer that that the only thing that comes of this is the establishment of a precedent that keeps these traps out of combat.
If I had to pick a punishment, it would be for the pred in question to submit and defend a predator trap rework to the gitlab that would better fit the lore and enable more interesting RP possibilities. Letting go of power is difficult, but I think most predator players would begrudgingly admit that predator traps dont align with the Yautja ethos and that it wouldn't be too difficult to think of something to replace them that could improve the quality of play for everyone involved.
