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RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by RaidenFTW » 03 Jun 2018, 12:57

Your Byond ID: RaidenFTW

Character Name: Evan DeWynter

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Timed/Job ban

Admin who banned you (if known): Grimcad

Total Ban Duration: 1440 /24 hrs, Job ban forever?

Remaining Duration: 1420

What other servers do you play on?
None, just CM.

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?
I don't play at other servers.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):
You have been banned by grimcad.
Reason: Griefer. Drugged and then Stuffed the WO into the incinerator. Claims he had "RP" reasons to do so Cause the WO was a jerk to him. He was stopped by another player. Claims he didnt really want to kill him. .

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):
None.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc):
Hi there. I am already aware of my ban duration will end before even this topic has come to an end. 3rd of June, around 7 PM in GMT+3, i had an issue with the WO Jack Knight.

Everything started when i called him for a colonist. The colonist's ID wasn't done, and he was just sitting in the medical. I told WO to that colonist's checked, and he is fine. Good to proceed, i said. Jack Knight told " None of my business" and ran away.

Secondly, after making the first "Alien embryo surgery" i wanted to inform the WO about the situation, to let them know that these creatures can come out of the marines, and they can burst anywhere. I wanted to show the alien embryo i removed from the marine which was in upper medbay. WO said "None of by business" and ran away to his own business again.

Thirdly, WO came to medical office to cryo someone. We opened the door for him, then closed it after him. And made a joke about "Trespassing" Then i walked inside him with Help Intent on a couple off times. He threatened me to he's going to arrest me if i keep walking in and out him. That was the last of the Evan's patience.
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After that, he started to go to his own business, and i followed him. I was looking for an opportunity to find him alone and inject him with soporific. At this point, my character wanted to scare the CMP off with all costs. And he was aware he would end up in prison after doing it.

Finally me and WO was alone in the medbay, while other doctors were busy with patients. I injected WO with 20 units of soporific while he was busy with crew monitor. I walked away and waited for him to black out, and he did. I fastly dropped my roller bed, and put him on it. And dragged him to uppermed. At this point he said that i was taking him to upper med, i answered "Calm down".
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I fastly moved to creamator. I put him inside the creamator. He said "Creamator!" while i wrote "HEHEHEH." Then i started to type while he was in the creamator, while i wrote "Scared ass-" a doctor just jumped in and started to push me. I fastly ended my typing with a miss spell, which ended up me writing "Scared asshoel." The doctor put him out of the creamatorium, and tried to wake him up while i was typing "I am not gonna burn him, worry not"
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Here what i am trying to say is i had around 5 to 10 seconds while he was in the creamator, i had opportunity to kill him. But i did not press to the button to creamate him. My intent wasn't to kill him, it was to scare him off. I had roleplaying causes to do such action, even the grimcad said "I would let it pass if you just threw a couple of punches to him" I decided not to just punch him, wanted to roleplay about the situation and make him scared of his life.Of course there wasn't any cause to kill him. Neither did i. I failed to explain the situation to Grimcad, because i had to keep up with the IC situation as well.

Without ruining anyone's "gameplay" or "griefing" them, i believe my charge was cruel. I want to be unbanned from medical roles.
Evan DeWynter Mosly Bravo/Sometimes charlie SL/Spec/LCPL/PFC
Command; XO/SO/CMP/MP/RO

OOC: TheMaskedMan2: UPDATE: Marine Wins removed

LOOC: Jack 'Survivor' Lance: Slower than a hospital in Africa - Said to a doctor that treating him slowly in SD :thumbup:

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Re: RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by Solarmare » 03 Jun 2018, 13:46

You decided to drug someone and put them inside a cremator over them telling you twice that something that wasn't their business was in fact not their business, and then them informing you would be arrested if you persisted in something. You need to read the server rules and roleplay guidelines more than anything else, I should not have to state how insane it would be to drug someone and place them in the incinerator. The ban seems entirely justified just from what you're saying here.
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Re: RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by Imperator_Titan » 03 Jun 2018, 14:34

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Re: RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by RaidenFTW » 03 Jun 2018, 15:00

Solarmare wrote:
03 Jun 2018, 13:46
You decided to drug someone and put them inside a cremator over them telling you twice that something that wasn't their business was in fact not their business, and then them informing you would be arrested if you persisted in something. You need to read the server rules and roleplay guidelines more than anything else, I should not have to state how insane it would be to drug someone and place them in the incinerator. The ban seems entirely justified just from what you're saying here.
Right, since i can't find anything about the survivors in either marine law, or server rules or roleplay guideliness, please let me know who has to deal with the survivor inside the medbay just sitting there and waiting for someone to give him an ID. Who has to secure the civilian and proceed with it's security record/search of contrabands?

Secondly, who am i have to warn about when there's a possible hostile on the ship, and possible cause of death to the marines? Head of the security? How it's not their job?

It's not stated at anywhere that "If you be persisted in something you can get arrested" This is not something for the role Chief MP. Putting your baton out and threatening someone to arrest them because all they did was just walk by him. I decided to have a roleplay going about a mad doctor and what he can do to scare someone. What do you guys want me to do, literally just stay in the medbay and do surgeries and die in the round end? Or do the exact same role every round? Or just punch him in the face like the grimcad said? I did that for IC causes because that's what "Evan DeWynter" character would do. I did not jump out of nowhere and inject someone i did not even know. I thought that was the griefing. Everything i said is in my opinion of course.
Evan DeWynter Mosly Bravo/Sometimes charlie SL/Spec/LCPL/PFC
Command; XO/SO/CMP/MP/RO

OOC: TheMaskedMan2: UPDATE: Marine Wins removed

LOOC: Jack 'Survivor' Lance: Slower than a hospital in Africa - Said to a doctor that treating him slowly in SD :thumbup:

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Re: RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by RaidenFTW » 04 Jun 2018, 12:14

I now learned my mistake and understand the reason why i am job-banned.  Weird part is none of the roleplay guideliness/Rules/Marine Law covers the situation i had, i learned my mistake by lookin at other people's ban appeals.

I also noticed that i am the only person who got "instant judged" without getting a warning about the situation. Nearly all of the people in other appaels just got warned a couple or a single time before receiving a job ban.

Getting a job ban on my first mistake on that role seems cruel and over judged to me. But i do understand the concerns of the staff that i would do same thing again. To not risk it anymore, from now on i won't do any antag roleplays with normal USCM roles. Going to roleplay only in the events where i can play as antag roles such as UPP and CLF.

I do understand the 24h ban, and i accept my mistake.  But i didn't even play CMO or Researcher roles yet, i do want to try them out as well.
Evan DeWynter Mosly Bravo/Sometimes charlie SL/Spec/LCPL/PFC
Command; XO/SO/CMP/MP/RO

OOC: TheMaskedMan2: UPDATE: Marine Wins removed

LOOC: Jack 'Survivor' Lance: Slower than a hospital in Africa - Said to a doctor that treating him slowly in SD :thumbup:

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Re: RaidenFTW Ban appael

Post by Emeraldblood » 04 Jun 2018, 20:59

"Mad Doctor" is self-antag and the rules state that everyone on the crew is sound of mind, meaning you can't just be some psychopath because why not. The bans will stick for now and you can appeal to lift the job-bans in 30 days. Until then, this is denied. Resolved - Denied for the time being, follow the server rules and you may appeal to lift in 30 days from now.
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