Discord Ban Appeal - A Warm Welcome

[Torrentia]

Your Byond ID: Torrentia

Character Name: Darla Kickum

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Discord Ban

Admin who banned you (if known): Unsure

Total Ban Duration: Unknown

Remaining Duration: Unknown

What other servers do you play on? Halo

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? Nope

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Unknown, another Discord moderator informed me it was because of a nickname change. N/A

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): N/A

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): Hey guys, I've been out of the community for over two months now, but with recent changes being announced by Rahl and such I thought I'd give the game another go. By out of the community I mean out, as I haven't posted here, in Discord, on the reddit, etc, at all during this time. Yesterday I discovered that the CM Discord server was removed from my server list and I was unable to DM some people. I hopped on #permissions-requests with an alt and asked if I could get back in on my main discord account Torrentia#3634. I was immediately banned from the Discord on that account as well without explanation.

A friend then sent me this:

(My query was deleted)

I was able to add another Discord moderator to my friends list and DM them about what happened. Apparently I was purged for changing my name to "Shota Connor". This was a joke between friends over recent drama in the SS13 community and I have made ZERO posts on both Discord and wherever else commenting on the current situation.(I personally feel that the drama has gone Too Far and have distanced myself from it intentionally.) They advised me to make an official appeal.

I understand that the name change was distasteful given the current state of things. I'm more than willing to remove it and not talk about it, and would have done so if asked. (My discord is always set to OFFLINE so I don't appear under online players in the first place.) I haven't posted at all, and I would rather not "go fuck myself" and instead rejoin the community.

Thanks!

[Sir Lordington]

Rule 1 says don't be a dick. You have no excuse. We had been banning people left, right and centre for stirring the pot. I was not at all impressed by your previous behaviour for which you got off lightly and after being out of here for two months the first thing you do is this? It's like you're straight up mocking us.

I'm going to be very blunt. I'm not interested in seeing you around here anytime soon. You need to learn that you can't flagrantly break the rules and get away with it.

[Torrentia]

Rule 1 says don't be a dick. You have no excuse. We had been banning people left, right and centre for stirring the pot. I was not at all impressed by your previous behaviour for which you got off lightly and after being out of here for two months the first thing you do is this? It's like you're straight up mocking us.

I'm going to be very blunt. I'm not interested in seeing you around here anytime soon. You need to learn that you can't flagrantly break the rules and get away with it.

Unbelievable. I didn't stir any pot, in fact I didn't post at all! The "don't be a dick" rule only seems to apply to some people, and much more egregious offenses get completely ignored.

You need to be more specific about 'my previous behavior'. My note history indicates no "rule 1"-type behavior at all. Since it wasn't posted here I went and got someone to pull it.

Banned by X|Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Joined with the name "Dik Kikem", logged out while I was PMing him, possible metacomming. by X on Sun, December 17th of 2017

Shares his IP with Drkln, watch for possible meta. by X on Sun, December 17th of 2017

Banned by X|Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG - Pushed a Marine under the dropship. by X on Wed, December 27th of 2017

Warned for improper escalation - seemingly incinerated a MP, by mistake. by X on Sun, January 7th of 2018

Warned for suicidng as squad engineer - because she believe operation when FUBAR by X on Sat, March 10th of 2018

Very argumentive in ahelps after a runner hid a few corpses under flipped tables. by X on Sat, April 7th of 2018

Banned by X|Duration: 4320 minutes|Reason: 72-hour ban placed in relation to meta-communication in a discord in which they are a senior staff. by X on Thu, April 19th of 2018

I was not at all impressed by your previous behaviour for which you got off lightly and after being out of here for two months the first thing you do is this?

As for 'getting off lightly,' that is your opinion since Apop handled the case and resolution personally after reaching out to me. It's done.

It's like you're straight up mocking us.

Who exactly am I mocking? You, who I've only spoken with on occasion? The community as a whole, who seem receptive to me returning in-game? Whoever searched for shota content under the Apophis775 username (who cares)? It's hurtful to have these accusations thrown at me when everything I've done is out in the open, and I'm only trying to mesh with the community.

You need to learn that you can't flagrantly break the rules and get away with it.

Is changing a name on discord while offline and inactive really flagrantly breaking the rules? I would understand if I made shitstirrer comments or memes, but I feel like this approach is harsh and unreasonable considering that I was already a part of the community in the past (as compared to making an account just to shitstir...which I've seen people do) and that discord moderation is usually dealt with warnings, rather than outright bans and GO FUCK YOURSELFs.

[Kavlo]

Alright cut the bullshit having the name "Shota Connor" is already bad enough, but considering the timing of what has been going on relating to CM drama recently it's obviously total bullshit and is just a direct dig at Apop.

[Torrentia]

No bullshit here sir, changed the name as an joke on an unrelated server in response to some screenshots. I have no digs on Apop. If you look at my post/discord history you'll see I've been completely inactive.

[Sir Lordington]

Nobody is buying that the name was not a dig at Apop. And yes, by your previous behaviour I'm referring to the fact that you knowingly and continously broke the rules in a clearly premeditated fashion hosting that Discord server, and after that is handled your first activity since then is to change your name to one disrespectful to the very same person who reached out to you to solve that issue just as they retire.

Furthermore, upon being banned you rejoined with a different account as opposed to appealing the ban.

As it stands I have literally no reason to believe you will not shit it up when you return. If you want me to change my mind, prove me wrong. Play the game, stay out of trouble and I'll rethink my stance.

EDIT: Hosting, senior staffing, potato potato. You were aware of blatant metacomming and did nothing, that tells me all I need to know about your respect for our rules, especially given that there are hints in the content of that Discord that point strongly towards its intended use being metacommunications.

[Torrentia]

Nobody is buying that the name was not a dig at Apop. And yes, by your previous behaviour I'm referring to the fact that you knowingly and continously broke the rules in a clearly premeditated fashion hosting that Discord server, and after that is handled your first activity since then is to change your name to one disrespectful to the very same person who reached out to you to solve that issue just as they retire.

Furthermore, upon being banned you rejoined with a different account as opposed to appealing the ban.

As it stands I have literally no reason to believe you will not shit it up when you return. If you want me to change my mind, prove me wrong. Play the game, stay out of trouble and I'll rethink my stance.

Why would it be? He was retired at this point. It was a joke about the screenshots that someone posted on reddit.

How much do you actually know about what happened? I didn't host any server. I didn't metacomm either. Here is apop's verdict after I spent a long time speaking to him about the situation:

This wasn't 'pre-meditated' as you claim because it wasn't me doing the metacommunication. My ban was only for three days and I took the rest of the time off voluntarily because I didn't agree with some of the rules. Since the ban was already handed down by the man himself I don't see any need to punish me further for it, seeing as it's been defunct for a while now.

I joined the perms requests on a different account because I didn't realize the name change was visible ergo didn't know why I was banned. In fact, I still wouldn't have known why if some people didn't reach out to me on my main account.

As it stands I have literally no reason to believe you will not shit it up when you return.

There's literally no evidence of me shitting up anything or any round, so I'm not sure where you are basing this accusation. I understand things are tense with Apop's retirement, but that doesn't mean that we have to resort to wild conjecture, the very same conjecture that stirred the pot in the first place.

[CaptainYankee]

If you have something to say about that discord server you can send those comments my way. Torrentia was stepping up to help me integrate that crowd back into the general CM discord. The fact of the matter is she had very little to do with the setup or maintenance of the community until that situation arose. I am solely responsible for that discord server, and I can tell you with confidence that the investigation into it was shoddy and hasty. There exists 0 evidence of Torrentia ever having metacommed, and the evidence of metacomming in general is minor and circumstantial.

If you have to decline this based on the nature of the original discord ban fine. But do not use my discord server to prune community members you find to be "shit-stirrers".

[Amaxin]

I was the Discord Mod that spoke to Torrentia after they tried to join on an alt. The name Torrentia used on their second account pointed directly to them, and I don't think they've been informing why they have been banned earlier, so I cannot quite say they were evading the ban with a malicious intent.

After a brief talk in the DMs they made it clear they regret making that silly joke, and there's absolutely no messages, shitstirring or anything in the similar fashion posted by them anywhere. I haven't seen them start any dramas either, but that might be thanks to my otherworldy timezone - and about the other Discord they were on, I looked into it myself back in the day. There were few cases of people breaching the rules, but Torrentia was not one of them, quite the opposite - tried to stop that and kick those members out.

As for our Discord, I could support letting them back in again on a probation of sort. We were on DEFCON 1 when the ban happenned, the ban reason was pretty heavy, but then again - Torrentia haven't posted anything that'd start or fuel any ongoing drama, they simply changed their global name. Even though it was super dumb on their part.
If there's any sort of further rule breaches from Torrentia, they can be banned from the Discord in a matter of seconds - and they seemed pretty apologetic when they spoke to me.

[Torrentia]

As for our Discord, I could support letting them back in again on a probation of sort. We were on DEFCON 1 when the ban happenned, the ban reason was pretty heavy, but then again - Torrentia haven't posted anything that'd start or fuel any ongoing drama, they simply changed their global name. Even though it was super dumb on their part.
If there's any sort of further rule breaches from Torrentia, they can be banned from the Discord in a matter of seconds - and they seemed pretty apologetic when they spoke to me.

I appreciate this. I am more looking for forgiveness for the name thing. The Charlie Discord is whole nother thing...

[awan]

Have you been playing on cm recently? (I can check it but I will only after you reply.)
If not then sorry but I will not support the unban. The discord is for cm players.

You can also apologize even if you did not know it was a slash at Apop you know now. You did it and that was wrong you now know why it was wrong and can at least say sorry for that.

[Torrentia]

Have you been playing on cm recently? (I can check it but I will only after you reply.)
If not then sorry but I will not support the unban. The discord is for cm players.

You can also apologize even if you did not know it was a slash at Apop you know now. You did it and that was wrong you now know why it was wrong and can at least say sorry for that.

I indeed have been, as both marine and command roles.

I apologize for making a joke about a sensitive subject. It was ill-timed given the nature of his departure. I was taken aback by the abrupt response to it (or no response, it was brought to my attention by other players) but that doesn't make me less sorry about the nature of my actions.

[Emeraldblood]

You'll be given another shot at the discord but if you push the line for any of the rules, expect to have the next ban be permanent.

Resolved - Discord ban lifted.