Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

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Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by FearTheBlackout » 20 Jun 2018, 10:44

Your Byond ID: Devildabeast

Character Name: Meztli 'Penumbra' Tlachi

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Job-ban (Military Police & CMP)

Admin who banned you (if known): sxmething (can moderators job-ban???)

What other servers do you play on? Baystation 12

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? I have been permanently banned from Baystation 12 before and successfully appealed, as seen here: https://forums.baystation12.net/threads ... i555.6543/
This job ban was also accompanied by a short temporary ban (at least less than 24 hours), which has since ended.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Griefing -- shooting a prisoner to death after being ordered to release her by a Moderator, then immediately logging.

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): I apologize for not only not cooperating with Sxmething during the round in question, but deliberately going against them by shooting the prisoner. I was under a large amount of stress for reasons I posted about in Cryosleep, but that is no excuse for detracting for someone else's round. I should have complied with the staff, released the prisoner, then went to cryo and stopped playing until I felt better, but I made a rash decision instead. The Military Police roles are some of my favorites to play and I do a well enough job of playing them most of the time, but my lapse in judgement and reason yesterday made me lose my right to them. I know that CMP and MP are treated with higher scrutiny than other roles because of the sensitivity of their responsibilities, and that it is a privilege, not a right, to be allowed to play them. All I can do is apologize to Sxmething and the prisoner (first named Jade is all I can recall) whose round I affected and await your ruling.
Meztli 'Penumbra' Tlachi - reasonable, outgoing CMP WARRANT REVOKED; INVESTIGATION PENDING
Tonati 'Lumen' Tlachi - focused, sarcastic Doctor/Researcher
Bailey 'Androgyne' James - exactly what you'd expect
Dominick 'Umpire' Feldspar - creepy, slow-paced Officer
Dana 'Croc' Swartwout - dawdling, unsympathetic Squad Marine/Specialist
Damon 'Hellboy' Banner - satanic, pyromaniacal Squad Marine/Specialist
Amelia 'Green' Goodwin - senile, polite Corporate Liaison/Medical Researcher

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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by x31stOverlord » 20 Jun 2018, 10:49

Notes:

Warned for using / / to emphasize his speach. | Wed, May 9th of 2018

Warned for not following procedure as CMP, put a prisoner into perma for very minor crimes that did not reach 60 minutes total sentence. | Tue, June 19th of 2018

Banned |Duration: 1440 minutes|Reason: Grief - As the CMP, after being told to release the prisoner from above note, went into their cell and killed them, then logged. | Tue, June 19th of 2018

Banned from Military Police - Grief - As the CMP, after being told to release the prisoner from above note, went into their cell and killed them, then logged | Tue, June 19th of 2018

Banned from Chief MP - Grief - As the CMP, after being told to release the prisoner from above note, went into their cell and killed them, then logged | Tue, June 19th of 2018
Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by x31stOverlord » 20 Jun 2018, 10:50

I'm gonna throw in my own little schpeel.

It is too early to appeal this right now in my opinion Fear. Try to sort yourself out and play other roles without any issues for a while before appealing it.

Entirely my opinion, if a head decides to let you appeal so soon, all the better for you!
Yautja - Zathar-Veraz Wolfgang Schneider - CO, CL, SO, XO, Synthetic Unit Joshua Roscoe Barrett - Spec, SGCMP, MP Ancient Empress, Ancient Runner (69)
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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by FearTheBlackout » 20 Jun 2018, 10:56

I understand, Lord. I just wanted to appeal early since, either way, I'm going to be waiting a while before I have a chance of playing them again, but I will absolutely continue to play other roles in the meantime and hopefully prove that I can be trusted again. I leave it to the Heads to make the next call from here.
Meztli 'Penumbra' Tlachi - reasonable, outgoing CMP WARRANT REVOKED; INVESTIGATION PENDING
Tonati 'Lumen' Tlachi - focused, sarcastic Doctor/Researcher
Bailey 'Androgyne' James - exactly what you'd expect
Dominick 'Umpire' Feldspar - creepy, slow-paced Officer
Dana 'Croc' Swartwout - dawdling, unsympathetic Squad Marine/Specialist
Damon 'Hellboy' Banner - satanic, pyromaniacal Squad Marine/Specialist
Amelia 'Green' Goodwin - senile, polite Corporate Liaison/Medical Researcher

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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by Sir Lordington » 20 Jun 2018, 11:34

This is a very serious issue. Killing a prisoner unlawfully as the Chief MP is bad enough, but more so than that the fact that not only blatantly disregarded the moderator's instructions but did the exact opposite of what you were told and then ragequit. It makes it look like you did it just to spite and disrespect the staff member. Compounded with your history of disregarding staff instructions over on Baystation as mentioned in the appeal you linked this needs to sit.

You asked me to vouch for you in Bay, so I expect better from you. I'm afraid nothing short of impeccable behaviour when it comes to interacting with staff will convince me to change my mind.
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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by FearTheBlackout » 20 Jun 2018, 12:15

You never vouched for in the end when I DMed you (at least as far as I know), so I don't see its relevance.

All your other points are fair and I respect whatever decision is reached, but "ragequit" is disingenuous; I was going through a psychotic break down that didn't go away until the end of that day. That's not a normal occurrence for me and there's no chance of it happening again.
Meztli 'Penumbra' Tlachi - reasonable, outgoing CMP WARRANT REVOKED; INVESTIGATION PENDING
Tonati 'Lumen' Tlachi - focused, sarcastic Doctor/Researcher
Bailey 'Androgyne' James - exactly what you'd expect
Dominick 'Umpire' Feldspar - creepy, slow-paced Officer
Dana 'Croc' Swartwout - dawdling, unsympathetic Squad Marine/Specialist
Damon 'Hellboy' Banner - satanic, pyromaniacal Squad Marine/Specialist
Amelia 'Green' Goodwin - senile, polite Corporate Liaison/Medical Researcher

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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by Imperator_Titan » 20 Jun 2018, 14:33

Happened too recently as already said, maybe in another month or so. Grief is grief at the end of the day, can’t take your word that it won’t happen again unless we see you continue to play up until you appeal again.

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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by Solarmare » 22 Jun 2018, 13:27

This job ban can remain for now, you ignored marine law and server rules as well as direct staff instruction. I'd want to see you actually remain reasonable as other roles until the MP job ban is lifted, what was done was fairly serious in every respect.
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Re: Devildabeast - (C)MP Job-ban

Post by Emeraldblood » 22 Jun 2018, 13:48

This just happened and it was a serious rule break for the role.

Resolved - Denied; you can appeal again in 30 days.
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