Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
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Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
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Your Character Name:Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver
Accused Byond Key(if known):
not sure
Character Name:
Jack Knight
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):
12:10 pm 6/25/18
What rule(s) were broken: Normal Rule's that I believe we're broken-
2. Don’t be a dick - Harassment, racism, bigotry, homophobia, exploiting bugs, cheating, hacking, and just plain being an asshole. Giving out plot spoilers to any media with malicious intent is not allowed, but general discussion of plot that contains spoilers about media released 1 year ago or longer is fine./ 3. No griefing - Griefing is the intent of one player wanting to cause grief or annoyance to other players or to the server without any roleplay reason./ 18. Act like your given role
Description of the incident: I was a SO from the start of the round with two others Cyrus Ambrose, Roscoe 'FF' Carr and the XO at the time but I can't remember her name. I did my job in CIC for a hour or so till the blast doors opened. I then asked the XO soon after if I could deploy to assist with the men. She agreed and I went off to get a few things and deploy. Well I guess the CO Jack Knight awoke sometime after I left CIC and before I deployed and the XO cryo'd because by the time I had gotten on the DS and deployed I saw that the CO was yelling for me. He was requesting I return to CIC at once "which was fine" but he was being very rude and hostile to me. So I replied that I would report to cryo at once, and he got very offended and called me a crybaby and some other things. I wont lie I said a few very unkind things as well and then cryo'd. I then ghosted the rest of the round and saw that he had issued me a medal- A bronze heart-shaped medal awarded for sacrifice. It is often awarded posthumously or for severe injury in the line of duty.
Awarded to: 'Staff Officer Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver'. The citation reads 'For having her feelings broken hard enough that they went to Cryo after being told they could not deploy. And effectively destroying Charlie and Delta due to her neglect and incompetence'.
Not only is this a untrue but it is also VERY offensive to me. I do not believe this is improper use of the medal system and I believe the CO was also using his position to Grief.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
A bronze heart-shaped medal awarded for sacrifice. It is often awarded posthumously or for severe injury in the line of duty.
Awarded to: 'Staff Officer Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver'. The citation reads 'For having her feelings broken hard enough that they went to Cryo after being told they could not deploy. And effectively destroying Charlie and Delta due to her neglect and incompetence'.
How you would punish the accused: honestly I am unsure, maybe a job ban or at least a warning
Your Character Name:Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver
Accused Byond Key(if known):
not sure
Character Name:
Jack Knight
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):
12:10 pm 6/25/18
What rule(s) were broken: Normal Rule's that I believe we're broken-
2. Don’t be a dick - Harassment, racism, bigotry, homophobia, exploiting bugs, cheating, hacking, and just plain being an asshole. Giving out plot spoilers to any media with malicious intent is not allowed, but general discussion of plot that contains spoilers about media released 1 year ago or longer is fine./ 3. No griefing - Griefing is the intent of one player wanting to cause grief or annoyance to other players or to the server without any roleplay reason./ 18. Act like your given role
Description of the incident: I was a SO from the start of the round with two others Cyrus Ambrose, Roscoe 'FF' Carr and the XO at the time but I can't remember her name. I did my job in CIC for a hour or so till the blast doors opened. I then asked the XO soon after if I could deploy to assist with the men. She agreed and I went off to get a few things and deploy. Well I guess the CO Jack Knight awoke sometime after I left CIC and before I deployed and the XO cryo'd because by the time I had gotten on the DS and deployed I saw that the CO was yelling for me. He was requesting I return to CIC at once "which was fine" but he was being very rude and hostile to me. So I replied that I would report to cryo at once, and he got very offended and called me a crybaby and some other things. I wont lie I said a few very unkind things as well and then cryo'd. I then ghosted the rest of the round and saw that he had issued me a medal- A bronze heart-shaped medal awarded for sacrifice. It is often awarded posthumously or for severe injury in the line of duty.
Awarded to: 'Staff Officer Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver'. The citation reads 'For having her feelings broken hard enough that they went to Cryo after being told they could not deploy. And effectively destroying Charlie and Delta due to her neglect and incompetence'.
Not only is this a untrue but it is also VERY offensive to me. I do not believe this is improper use of the medal system and I believe the CO was also using his position to Grief.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc):
A bronze heart-shaped medal awarded for sacrifice. It is often awarded posthumously or for severe injury in the line of duty.
Awarded to: 'Staff Officer Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver'. The citation reads 'For having her feelings broken hard enough that they went to Cryo after being told they could not deploy. And effectively destroying Charlie and Delta due to her neglect and incompetence'.
How you would punish the accused: honestly I am unsure, maybe a job ban or at least a warning
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
well if that is how it is seen by the staff then so be it but I want to at least get it out there
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
This was handled ingame by a different moderator as I’ve been told.
Just some funny moments.
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
how? and if so I was not informed. if that is true I will withdraw this report
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
First things first, I was informed by an SO that you ignored Charlie and Delta during overwatch duty, hence allowing Bravo to be killed and for the other two to be disorganized, and you failed to respond after a being asked where you were.
After that you proceeded to proclaim that you were heading to cryo, in a "tantrum", starting some drama in the command channel, going as far as to say that you "won ops on your own before"
The Medal came as a bit of a joke while I was doing medals for a Squad Leader, Specialist and the Tank´s Driver, "commending" the behaviour that would not fit a Command Officer and remarking that it would appear on your service record.
Later into the round I was spoken to about the medal and warned to avoid using it for Jokes such as this one by, Skysoldier I believe.
While the medal may have been a bit too much on my part, I would not say it fits into "dont be a dick" or "Grief" solely due to mocking someone ICLY for neglecting their duties and cryoing when they were not authorized to deploy.
In the end, the situation was handled ingame already, I was warned for the Joke medal and I have taken it into consideration, the warning, to do my best to avoid making more in the future.
Edit: Further on, if you did believe it to be offensive on an Out of Character Spectrum, then I apologize, but I do wish to say that it was aimed solely in-character, for the character and their actions, and not the player behind them.
After that you proceeded to proclaim that you were heading to cryo, in a "tantrum", starting some drama in the command channel, going as far as to say that you "won ops on your own before"
The Medal came as a bit of a joke while I was doing medals for a Squad Leader, Specialist and the Tank´s Driver, "commending" the behaviour that would not fit a Command Officer and remarking that it would appear on your service record.
Later into the round I was spoken to about the medal and warned to avoid using it for Jokes such as this one by, Skysoldier I believe.
While the medal may have been a bit too much on my part, I would not say it fits into "dont be a dick" or "Grief" solely due to mocking someone ICLY for neglecting their duties and cryoing when they were not authorized to deploy.
In the end, the situation was handled ingame already, I was warned for the Joke medal and I have taken it into consideration, the warning, to do my best to avoid making more in the future.
Edit: Further on, if you did believe it to be offensive on an Out of Character Spectrum, then I apologize, but I do wish to say that it was aimed solely in-character, for the character and their actions, and not the player behind them.
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
let me guess who that SO was- Cyrus Ambrose? also I didn't ignore them at all I did my job ALL THE WAY up till I asked to deploy. Lastly if you think that medal is a joke you have a poor sense of humor I call the grief. It offended me then. It still offends me now. edit: due to poor grammar
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
Well I still think this is unresolved but if the staff say it is handled then they can mark it as such. Edit: typo
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
Jack Knight was warned regarding his rather low RP medal issuing.
He apologised and said it wouldn't happen again.
A job ban really isn't relevant for something so minor.
He apologised and said it wouldn't happen again.
A job ban really isn't relevant for something so minor.
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
I was, in fact, the person that gave him the full report when he first landed. You were incredibly non-communicative with the command staff during that round, and have been during rounds in the past, and as a result it caused issues. The only reason that the CO got angry was because he had asked your location no less than a good half dozen times - I tried to call for you too several times - and you never responded. This has, again, been an issue across multiple rounds. In any case, you should not be one to talk about how he acted in round, when you said, as to almost quote the line: "I have complted multiple OPs on my own so fuck you weak pussies" as you went to cryo. For Jack, he was completely in line, save for the medal thing (which many OTHERS found funny, at least, myself included), which has been handled as above stated.
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
Alright I can agree a job ban is not really fair, though as a commander I would expect him to have honor and dignity above all other crew. "and as a whitelisted CO you should have better RP standards imo" but I am fine with this outcome. A apology is really all I want I guess
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
luna you are new correct? and also I am only unresponsive when I am deploying because I am busy trying to get down ASAP. I rarely SO with you and I SO a lot. and NO one other than you has EVER complained about my communication. So sorry I cannot meet your standards
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
I was around for this, as the second XO. Weaver effectively wrecked a couple of squads due to not doing their job properly as a SO, whined when Knight denied their deployment and promptly cryo'd. Whilst I was part of the round, Knight played as an excellent Commander, listened to input from CIC staff and dealt with things in a reasonable manner. The medal was well-deserved.
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
once again I disagree and you NEVER even saw me that round howcan you say I destroyed a squad when you never even saw me order them I cryo's right as you and the CO woke up so you are flat out lying for you pal here. Edit:typo
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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alright this was resolved I guess the staff can mark it as such when they can
~Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver~
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Re: Jack Knight Improper use of medal system and Grief
Resolved - This was dealt with in-game.
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