Daturix - Moderator Application
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Daturix - Moderator Application
Byond ID: Daturix
Colonial Marines Character: Jayne'Ambulance'Staymates
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Timezone: UTC/GMT -7
On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate? Currently unemployed so 14ish hours. When working 8-6 hours. Edit: meant to clarify a day. forgot to do that.
Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)? Yes, countless Minecraft servers hosted myself, and /TG/
Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers? Sulaco? if thats not one then no.
What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM? /TG/ /VG/ and FO13
Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made: None yet.
Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where? Uh besides my Minecraft servers I pop up for various friend groups every now and then, no.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines? Not to my knowledge, only a single 24h ban.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for? Yes, Yogs,Paradise?,/VG/,Citadel, a few others. This was back when I first joined byond and started playing SS13. Much has changed and I have successfully appealed all of the ones I've appealed to and can link to those threads.
Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)? I do not use it currently but It won't be hard to learn how to use.
Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.
1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
The situation seems to be IC as MP have sucessfully handled this it and depends on how they act to the MP's/if the shot person ahelps, I will speak with them and make sure that they know CM does not allow ignorance of the rules and that they should reread up on the rules.
2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
Due to other staff having said CM doesn't work well with atmos issues. Plug the hole with build, aheal the few directly affected, perhaps send a fax to CIC as an IC way to let MT's know of an issue with the air if it's not super lethal to be near the fixed breach.
3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
Poke them, ask if they're new and help direct them with how CM works and answer any questions they have. Make sure they take a look over the rules and send them on their way, keeping an eye on them throughout the round.
4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Continue to be polite as that's not very hard to do and it wont help the issue to be rude back to them. If the issue cannot be solved and it is a minor thing, I will state that a Admin+ staff isn't required. If it's something serious/large I will notify an Admin+ staff of the situation and see if they even should need to.
5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
Tell them that ignorance to the rules is not acceptable in CM and that within the rules itself it is better to accept the staff's ruling and direct them to the forums to make a complaint if they have a genuine issue with changing some text of their character.
6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present. Watch to see if MP handle the situation, if they continue undeterred by the MP's I might poke the MP's if they are just sitting idly. Or then poke the MT if the MP are extremely busy and to refer them that they shouldn't be armed or armored up on green alert.
7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Tell the medic that medics haven't been allowed to perform surgery for a very long time. That even if there's no doctors there, they cannot perform surgery themselves.
8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
High Command and/or Mother Queen message them to stop being cowards and to charge! Their glory and honor is on the line and to be so disgusting to disgrace their fallen brothers/sisters with cowardice is despicable.
9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile CLF member and the CLF member Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
Politely remind the CLF that, combat between two hostile forces IS allowed after round. Such as Marines x Xenos. Marines x CLF/UPP.
10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
If they seem to be doing so after being diswayed by other marines and specifically dodging MP's. Poke them and tell them to kindly cut the crap and to play the game, if they continue after a warning, place a 24h ban for griefing.
11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Explain to the murdering marine that escalation like that is unacceptable. the proper response to that is to disarm the punching marine and go away at the least or preferably to call the MP's.
12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
Try to handle the issue to the best of my abilities, if It cannot be sufficently handled by me, then provide the situation's information to an available Admin+ staff and what I believe to be the solution.
13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
Politely explain that, minor IC racism is allowed as long as It doesn't go too far. I'd recommend them to leave the area in which the IC racism is happening.
14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Apply a permenant ban to them explaining what they did, and refer them to please explain themself if they want to appeal at the forums.
15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Poke them and ask why they did that, and explain that larva are not supposed to be near the frotnlines for any reason except if the queen says so.
16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
Poke them and tell them to knock it off.
17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Tell the ahelping player I will speak with the offending player and It will be handled. Poke the offending player and ask that they refer to things like the dropship such as a xeno actually would. So the dropship would be a bird or a flying metal bawk that holds many mean men.
18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
Quickly subtle message them to play on the word aliens definition of foreign and to go with it, and to not mention xenos/aliens as marines aren't supposed to know there are already xenos.
19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Check chat logs and attack logs to see if they actually roleplayed the fear of being left on a ship to their death. If sufficently RP enough to see that was clearly their intention then poke them and tell them they should try to RP it more, and alert the murdered player that although a rare occurance it is allowed. If it isn't sufficently RP, poke and tell the murdering player that if RP'd properly it's allowed but what he's done is just poor roleplay attempt and honestly griefing. If hes remorseful, let him off with a warning and note.
20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Speak out to the fellow staff asking if they know that "x is actually y" with a link to such the answer.
20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Speak privately to a head, as to not cause issues and drama and to let the people in charge of that, take care of it themselves as they are the proper medium to do so.
21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
Cool story brother. Say nothing.
Any additional information you'd like to add?
Colonial Marines Character: Jayne'Ambulance'Staymates
Age: 22
Gender: Male
Timezone: UTC/GMT -7
On average, how many hours are you available per week to moderate? Currently unemployed so 14ish hours. When working 8-6 hours. Edit: meant to clarify a day. forgot to do that.
Do you have any previous experience in being staff (not just SS13)? Yes, countless Minecraft servers hosted myself, and /TG/
Did you play any of the previous Colonial Marine servers? Sulaco? if thats not one then no.
What are the 3 biggest servers you play on besides CM? /TG/ /VG/ and FO13
Provide links to any previous Colonial Marines applications that you've made: None yet.
Are you currently a staff member elsewhere (not just SS13)? If so, where? Uh besides my Minecraft servers I pop up for various friend groups every now and then, no.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on Colonial Marines? Not to my knowledge, only a single 24h ban.
Have you ever been banned for more than 24 hours on ANY server? If so, which server, when, and what for? Yes, Yogs,Paradise?,/VG/,Citadel, a few others. This was back when I first joined byond and started playing SS13. Much has changed and I have successfully appealed all of the ones I've appealed to and can link to those threads.
Are you familiar with the chat program Slack (its use is required)? I do not use it currently but It won't be hard to learn how to use.
Common Staff Situations:
Write a description of what you would do in each of the following situations. Do not write on the same line as the situation - use the space below it or make space as needed. Failure to do this proves your inability to follow instructions and your application will be automatically denied.
1. A player randomly shoots someone at round start and MPs have detained him.
The situation seems to be IC as MP have sucessfully handled this it and depends on how they act to the MP's/if the shot person ahelps, I will speak with them and make sure that they know CM does not allow ignorance of the rules and that they should reread up on the rules.
2. The ship has a breach to space and a bunch of players have died or are dying as a result.
Due to other staff having said CM doesn't work well with atmos issues. Plug the hole with build, aheal the few directly affected, perhaps send a fax to CIC as an IC way to let MT's know of an issue with the air if it's not super lethal to be near the fixed breach.
3. You see a player walking around the ship naked and clearly lost.
Poke them, ask if they're new and help direct them with how CM works and answer any questions they have. Make sure they take a look over the rules and send them on their way, keeping an eye on them throughout the round.
4. A player is being very rude to you in Adminhelps and requesting to speak to an Admin+ staff member.
Continue to be polite as that's not very hard to do and it wont help the issue to be rude back to them. If the issue cannot be solved and it is a minor thing, I will state that a Admin+ staff isn't required. If it's something serious/large I will notify an Admin+ staff of the situation and see if they even should need to.
5. You notice a player with a name that doesn't fit our naming rules. The player is arguing that: They've used the name for several years, no one has told them to change it before, and that they didn't know it was a rule.
Tell them that ignorance to the rules is not acceptable in CM and that within the rules itself it is better to accept the staff's ruling and direct them to the forums to make a complaint if they have a genuine issue with changing some text of their character.
6. You see a Maintenance Tech running around in armor and carrying a rifle. The security level is green with no threat present. Watch to see if MP handle the situation, if they continue undeterred by the MP's I might poke the MP's if they are just sitting idly. Or then poke the MT if the MP are extremely busy and to refer them that they shouldn't be armed or armored up on green alert.
7. You see a Squad Medic performing surgery on the planet. He claims it was because there were no doctors in the FOB.
Tell the medic that medics haven't been allowed to perform surgery for a very long time. That even if there's no doctors there, they cannot perform surgery themselves.
8. The round is stagnating. There are 30 marines and 4 aliens. The marines won't leave the ship, and the aliens won't attack. What would you do, to "encourage" the sides to engage each other?
High Command and/or Mother Queen message them to stop being cowards and to charge! Their glory and honor is on the line and to be so disgusting to disgrace their fallen brothers/sisters with cowardice is despicable.
9. The round ends, a MARINE starts shooting a hostile CLF member and the CLF member Adminhelps complaining he was killed after the round ended.
Politely remind the CLF that, combat between two hostile forces IS allowed after round. Such as Marines x Xenos. Marines x CLF/UPP.
10. A marine is running around disarming, punching and stealing gear at round start.
If they seem to be doing so after being diswayed by other marines and specifically dodging MP's. Poke them and tell them to kindly cut the crap and to play the game, if they continue after a warning, place a 24h ban for griefing.
11. A marine has killed another marine. When you ask him why, he said it was because the other marine had punched him.
Explain to the murdering marine that escalation like that is unacceptable. the proper response to that is to disarm the punching marine and go away at the least or preferably to call the MP's.
12. An issue arises that requires Admin+ abilities.
Try to handle the issue to the best of my abilities, if It cannot be sufficently handled by me, then provide the situation's information to an available Admin+ staff and what I believe to be the solution.
13. There are minor racist comments going on IC. 9 of the 10 people are laughing and RPing but one player gets offended and Adminhelps about it.
Politely explain that, minor IC racism is allowed as long as It doesn't go too far. I'd recommend them to leave the area in which the IC racism is happening.
14. A marine opens fire at round start in briefing killing multiple marines and instantly logs off.
Apply a permenant ban to them explaining what they did, and refer them to please explain themself if they want to appeal at the forums.
15. You see a player playing a xeno larva/chestburster run towards the frontlines and die.
Poke them and ask why they did that, and explain that larva are not supposed to be near the frotnlines for any reason except if the queen says so.
16. You see a xeno memeing, saying AYYLMAO, REEEEEE etc in hivemind chat.
Poke them and tell them to knock it off.
17. A xeno player calls the shuttle a "dropship". A different xeno player complains to you that it's metagaming/failRP to call it a "dropship".
Tell the ahelping player I will speak with the offending player and It will be handled. Poke the offending player and ask that they refer to things like the dropship such as a xeno actually would. So the dropship would be a bird or a flying metal bawk that holds many mean men.
18. A Command staff player at briefing near round-start mentions there are aliens on the planet.
Quickly subtle message them to play on the word aliens definition of foreign and to go with it, and to not mention xenos/aliens as marines aren't supposed to know there are already xenos.
19. A Marine kills another Marine on the EVAC Pod to take the last spot and claims it was RP as he was saving himself.
Check chat logs and attack logs to see if they actually roleplayed the fear of being left on a ship to their death. If sufficently RP enough to see that was clearly their intention then poke them and tell them they should try to RP it more, and alert the murdered player that although a rare occurance it is allowed. If it isn't sufficently RP, poke and tell the murdering player that if RP'd properly it's allowed but what he's done is just poor roleplay attempt and honestly griefing. If hes remorseful, let him off with a warning and note.
20. You see a fellow staff member give wrong information in an Adminhelp or incorrectly enforcing a rule.
Speak out to the fellow staff asking if they know that "x is actually y" with a link to such the answer.
20a. You see a fellow staff member abusing his powers in-game.
Speak privately to a head, as to not cause issues and drama and to let the people in charge of that, take care of it themselves as they are the proper medium to do so.
21. You see a player talking in OOC chat about what he did with your mom last night.
Cool story brother. Say nothing.
Any additional information you'd like to add?
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
I would love to adress your application but before I do.
Can you provide us proof of your retirement?
edit: Seems the tg admin page on the wiki is outdated as hell. I found the proof I needed so I will go into it now.
Can you provide us proof of your retirement?
edit: Seems the tg admin page on the wiki is outdated as hell. I found the proof I needed so I will go into it now.
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
1. The player who got shot ahelping does not make it less or more ic. Remember to check notes.
2. No comment.
3. This would be at first something that a mentor handles. So I would advise you to call a mentor and not go at it yourself so you can do administrative duties.
4. No comment.
5. No comment.
6. It is not really needed to poke mp's to do their job they can ignore minor crimes. It can also be something legit these days like the mt going down with the tank.
7. No longer an issue because of the skill system
8. No comment
9 . No comment
10. The first ban time is 3 hours.
11. If this is not the first warning they got additional steps might be required.
12. Dont forget you can call an admin in slack.
13. No comment.
14. You cannot apply a perma ban only a week ban and make a perma request on the forums.
15. Repeat offenders here get a jobban or worse.
16. No comment
17. Hivemind is the english interpertation of the xenomorph language. So calling it a dropship would be fine and this would not be a rule break.
18. I would avoid an sm here and just pm them so they can reply back if they have more questions. Perhaps follow up with an ooc message to ignore anything said about aliens in briefing.
19. No comment
20a. No comment
20b. No comment
21. No comment.
You did not write a lot on how you would investigate and I am not really convinced with your replies.
So, I am going to give 2 extra questions I would like you to reply to.
1. A survivor after being "rescued" kills the CL. The CL ahelps he got murdered. He says the marines never searched him, he never wanted to go up and W-Y caused the problems on the colony and this makes him justified in killing the CL.
2. The round has just started and ahelps are coming in asking for the queen to be replaced because they have no idea what they are doing.
2. No comment.
3. This would be at first something that a mentor handles. So I would advise you to call a mentor and not go at it yourself so you can do administrative duties.
4. No comment.
5. No comment.
6. It is not really needed to poke mp's to do their job they can ignore minor crimes. It can also be something legit these days like the mt going down with the tank.
7. No longer an issue because of the skill system
8. No comment
9 . No comment
10. The first ban time is 3 hours.
11. If this is not the first warning they got additional steps might be required.
12. Dont forget you can call an admin in slack.
13. No comment.
14. You cannot apply a perma ban only a week ban and make a perma request on the forums.
15. Repeat offenders here get a jobban or worse.
16. No comment
17. Hivemind is the english interpertation of the xenomorph language. So calling it a dropship would be fine and this would not be a rule break.
18. I would avoid an sm here and just pm them so they can reply back if they have more questions. Perhaps follow up with an ooc message to ignore anything said about aliens in briefing.
19. No comment
20a. No comment
20b. No comment
21. No comment.
You did not write a lot on how you would investigate and I am not really convinced with your replies.
So, I am going to give 2 extra questions I would like you to reply to.
1. A survivor after being "rescued" kills the CL. The CL ahelps he got murdered. He says the marines never searched him, he never wanted to go up and W-Y caused the problems on the colony and this makes him justified in killing the CL.
2. The round has just started and ahelps are coming in asking for the queen to be replaced because they have no idea what they are doing.
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
I will absolutely take your points into how I see things as both a player and If I do get accepted in any chance.awan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 19:361. The player who got shot ahelping does not make it less or more ic. Remember to check notes.
2. No comment.
3. This would be at first something that a mentor handles. So I would advise you to call a mentor and not go at it yourself so you can do administrative duties.
4. No comment.
5. No comment.
6. It is not really needed to poke mp's to do their job they can ignore minor crimes. It can also be something legit these days like the mt going down with the tank.
7. No longer an issue because of the skill system
8. No comment
9 . No comment
10. The first ban time is 3 hours.
11. If this is not the first warning they got additional steps might be required.
12. Dont forget you can call an admin in slack.
13. No comment.
14. You cannot apply a perma ban only a week ban and make a perma request on the forums.
15. Repeat offenders here get a jobban or worse.
16. No comment
17. Hivemind is the english interpertation of the xenomorph language. So calling it a dropship would be fine and this would not be a rule break.
18. I would avoid an sm here and just pm them so they can reply back if they have more questions. Perhaps follow up with an ooc message to ignore anything said about aliens in briefing.
19. No comment
20a. No comment
20b. No comment
21. No comment.
You did not write a lot on how you would investigate and I am not really convinced with your replies.
So, I am going to give 2 extra questions I would like you to reply to.
1. A survivor after being "rescued" kills the CL. The CL ahelps he got murdered. He says the marines never searched him, he never wanted to go up and W-Y caused the problems on the colony and this makes him justified in killing the CL.
2. The round has just started and ahelps are coming in asking for the queen to be replaced because they have no idea what they are doing.
Sorry for the lack of in depth investagation as I've heard from various people CM has a much different admin system than say TG so I wouldn't be familiar enough to say exactly what I'd do. But I can say that procedure while I was admin in TG was pull up the ticket, give the player a notice that I am starting their ticket, usually "Hey there, got a moment pal?" as I pull up their notes, attack logs, and say logs. If it is a matter of touching something I'd also pull up their touch logs. I'd go about seeing how the situation started and see what caused it and if it fell within rules. But of course two seperate servers, It'll vary. My fault and I am sorry.
1. For this situation the survivor is completely okay IC'ly to stay on the planet if they want. The marines are to rescue any survivors, so their part on searching can and as I've experience is a off/on chance of actually happening. Pulling them up to the Almayer and murdering the CL, with RP justification of "Your company caused this, it's your fault, I will make justice with your murder." if done well and convincing I would say is an IC and well played character. Now if they simply murdered the CL, with little speaking and merely speaking to the mod saying its wy fault and thus the CL's too. Then I'd call it a case of low roleplay and a minor griefing, a warning and note would suffice at the most I'd say. If the survivor had any weapons, the CL would have time to call for help and MP's would recover the body, no need in touching that as IC'ly handled and the CL would be revived by doctors and the survivor arrested for murder.
2. I'd poke the Queen, asking if they're new. If they do seem new, IE very little knowledge of queen abilities or the current meta of xeno hiving/logistics. Then I'd ask a mentor to snag their ticket and help educate them. At most send a mother queen message saying "This Queen is fresh, her carapace is weak. Stand strong sisters as she learns how to lead the hive to victory!" I'd watch the situation and keep tabs on their improvement. If they just fail to improve then it's a learning experience and a bad luck draw for the xenos. Not an OOC issue.
But if the Queen shows knowledge of abilities and the current meta and is just plain old being an issue and abusing the slot then I'd speak to them to cut it out and to play serious, if they aren't going to take the leadership role seriously perhaps I can trade their place with a xeno and then continue the round. At the most, simply give up the queen entirely to any observers for the players blatent abuse of the slot.
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
How do you judge if the CL-killing survivor had his stuff "done well and convincing" ?
Player PM from player/(Larva (247)) (?): It's totally realistic to challenge someone to do boxing for a mouse trap, in the middle of a alien occupation.
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
I'd judge it by feeling if it was genuine roleplay. Using emotes of shaking their fist. Yelling out that WY is the abomination it is as being forced up to the Almayer by the marines. Marines being able to show as witness that the survivor fought back trying to stay planetside. If he acted like what a normal human being would do in this situation like "God damn you! Fuck WY and you! You all caused this shit, you killed them all!" rather than. "Yeah fuck wy and you, you did it." Shoots CL.
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
The CL invites the survivor in his office to talk about stuff.
They RP pretty well for a few minutes, the survivor eventually gets angry, the CL tries to get him to calm down, it doesn't work and the survivor eventually empties a clip in the CL's head, beheading him.
The CL then ahelps claiming that he was having tons of fun roleplaying and that the guy just ruined his entire round for nothing.
How would you deal with that?
They RP pretty well for a few minutes, the survivor eventually gets angry, the CL tries to get him to calm down, it doesn't work and the survivor eventually empties a clip in the CL's head, beheading him.
The CL then ahelps claiming that he was having tons of fun roleplaying and that the guy just ruined his entire round for nothing.
How would you deal with that?
Player PM from player/(Larva (247)) (?): It's totally realistic to challenge someone to do boxing for a mouse trap, in the middle of a alien occupation.
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
AHELP: Player/(Player) : HELP HELP HELP I SAWED SOMEOEN HEAD OFF! I DIDNT MEAN TOO
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
If it seems clear that well thought RP was happening, and it was escalation going up like "WY needs to pay. Starting with you CL! You'll pay for all of my dead friends!" Pulls out the gun. As the CL has stated, they were having fun and roleplaying, I'd tell them polite, or more specifically this, "I'm sorry that this resulted in your death, but the game's about having fun and we are a high/med RP server. Think about the fun you had there and the fact you made someone else's round just as enjoyable. The situation escalated well IC'ly and you had fun. Look forward to the next round and perhaps you'll be the other person when someone's making your round fun. You can try and join as a xeno and have fun against the xenos or (if its a pred round and possible) join in as a predator and make some more fun RP situations. Sorry to have your round end so shortly but look forward to the next round!"Tharinoma wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 20:08The CL invites the survivor in his office to talk about stuff.
They RP pretty well for a few minutes, the survivor eventually gets angry, the CL tries to get him to calm down, it doesn't work and the survivor eventually empties a clip in the CL's head, beheading him.
The CL then ahelps claiming that he was having tons of fun roleplaying and that the guy just ruined his entire round for nothing.
How would you deal with that?
It'd be similar if there was a xeno or marine roleplaying before combat, or even a CLF/UPP pretending to be a fellow marine then shooting the marine in the back. Death is an inevitability and you must expect it to happen sooner or later and to look forward to the next round for more fun!
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Re: Daturix - Moderator Application
Your reply to 2. has no issues imo.
Lets get to 1. The official ruling has always been that survivors can only be hostile until they are rescued. If the rp is good I would not mind myself either. However, this is not something we would like to see long-term/over multiple rounds. And it is also quite close to self antagging. Hence it is something for me that is listed as something I have to take some amount of issue with.
I do think that these kinds of things cannot be known by you and are up for interpretation. I also think this can be fleshed out during the trial so let me be the first to +1.
Lets get to 1. The official ruling has always been that survivors can only be hostile until they are rescued. If the rp is good I would not mind myself either. However, this is not something we would like to see long-term/over multiple rounds. And it is also quite close to self antagging. Hence it is something for me that is listed as something I have to take some amount of issue with.
I do think that these kinds of things cannot be known by you and are up for interpretation. I also think this can be fleshed out during the trial so let me be the first to +1.
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Alright that's something I can think upon and take into consideration for future cases of allowance of RP vs long-term health of the community taking advantage of that, thank you for the clarification.awan wrote: ↑30 Jul 2018, 20:32Your reply to 2. has no issues imo.
Lets get to 1. The official ruling has always been that survivors can only be hostile until they are rescued. If the rp is good I would not mind myself either. However, this is not something we would like to see long-term/over multiple rounds. And it is also quite close to self antagging. Hence it is something for me that is listed as something I have to take some amount of issue with.
I do think that these kinds of things cannot be known by you and are up for interpretation. I also think this can be fleshed out during the trial so let me be the first to +1.
I will try to take these into heavy consideration when thinking upon edge cases and for examples by more senior members of staff.
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1. You see a xenomorph run into frontlines and die. Queen ahelps that this was a pure random suicide. You found that Xenomorph player disconnected instantly after dying.
2. You see a player breaking into secure armory round start to pull additional weapons from there
2. You see a player breaking into secure armory round start to pull additional weapons from there
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1. Now it could be seen as plain waste of a xeno life. But we have to think here, with just saying they run into the frontlines and die, do they run in and fight and die quite quickly, or do they run in, move around and just let themselves be killed. If they do show an attempt to kill a marine and its obvious they intend to kill the marine and not just stand there to die, ie slashing at them or dragging them or pouncing. Then they were playing, got killed and were done with the game after that and logs out. That'd be fine. I myself have had situations where I'm playing xeno and I die pretty early in (under an hour) so i give up and go play another game. Nothing wrong with leaving the game once dead. But the issue is if they just stand around or moving around the marines with no attempts to kill the marines. That would be a situation of just plain wasting that xeno life/slot. That'd be an issue. In that case, I'll check their notes to see if this is a common occurance with them. If it's not then as I learned from Awan, i'd apply a first ban of 3 hours and a note (dont know if bans on CM auto apply notes) for this action. If they have done this multiple times or has a bad track record. Then I'd apply a 24h if they have a large number of notes for poor behavior.NethIafins wrote: ↑31 Jul 2018, 14:111. You see a xenomorph run into frontlines and die. Queen ahelps that this was a pure random suicide. You found that Xenomorph player disconnected instantly after dying.
2. You see a player breaking into secure armory round start to pull additional weapons from there
2. Now this is a little bit more close case it seems to me. The player is blatently trying to break in for the armory weapons, which are generally better than standard gear. This would be a clear case of powergaming, but like all things it'd be good to check their intentions. I'd poke them, ask what they are doing. See their response, politely explain that there's no real reason for anyone to be busting open the armory at round start., I'd tell them that it's a clear cut case of powergaming, which is against the rules and I will be applying a 3h ban. I don't see powergaming requiring a 24h ban if its not a regular occurance with this player.
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Good application, good responses to replies, good player, active ingame.
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I don’t have a problem with you becoming a moderator, your responses are decent enough and I know you as a player are fine from how I’ve seen you in game.
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I do appreciate the +1's from everyone but. You stated my responses were, "decent enough" showing that my ability to handle the situations and interpret them isnt that great. I wish to do the best job I can if am accepted. So if you could, would you please point out areas in which i could improve upon please.Aceluke123 wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 12:31I don’t have a problem with you becoming a moderator, your responses are decent enough and I know you as a player are fine from how I’ve seen you in game.
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Daturix's Notes:
Made extremely lewd and uncalled for comments to other aliens saying they're going to be inside them. Link below. 24h ban. https://gyazo.com/4c59f2255682b4ee765b65dc63f0157f | Sun, May 1st of 2016
Shot up a marine at the end of the round, but I was not able to see the logs until the victim showed me a picture of last round. Just adding a warning as they did not know this was a rule (which many servers allow, to be fair) and was polite when questioned. Warned not to EORG again, ban reccomended if so. | Tue, August 23rd of 2016
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Mon, April 30th of 2018
Warned for ID rules - picking up IDs. | Sat, May 5th of 2018
Warned for OOC in IC (Via prayers) | Thu, May 24th of 2018
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Tue, June 19th of 2018
Made 18+ Comments, memery at it's finest too be fair, got a 24 hour ban in 2016 - then returns in 2018 to rack up atleast one note every month April-June. Your notes don't descript the situation, but i'm still unsure that you're pass your past.
You also received a forum-warning for responding to a Developer's Application basically just +1ing it.
I'm going to -1 it for now.
1. You said you would leave it IC but then you said you would have them re-read the rules, is it a rulebreak that needs your moderation or is it an In-Character Situation?
2. This question is Irrelevant now
3. You'd make a good Mentor.
4. Nudge them to the forums for a staff report.
5. I wouldn't say this is ignorance, they haven't been told before and have played for a decently-long period of time. The rest of that is fine.
6. Formatting Issue, you placed it on the same line. I wouldn't bwoink any MP's and urge them to do something in the round. The acceptable standard is to investigate the individual and possibly job-ban them depending on their response.
7. This question is Irrelevant now.
8. Meh, 4 Honour-esk, but Good.
9. -----
10. Eh, straight to 24h - round ban is the first step - not a full day ban.
11. The proper response is tit for tat, if they punch you - you can punch them and continue to punch them, when it gets escalated to knifes, you can knife them, guns - guns. Must follow that brief outline (can be punched / damaged into crit or killed if the fist-fight is prolonged enough)
12. Ping one on slack if needbe.
13. Slip-Slope here, but generally explaining that this is the internet is a good way for the 1/10 person to stop being offended and move on.
14. Marine logged off so there's no communiquating to them. P-ban is fine, honestly.
15. Job-Ban? When might that be acceptable versus just a slap on the wrist.
16. Note them as well.
17. No...they can call it a Dropship, it's fine to use the plain english of objects.
18. Note for Metagaming?
19. Meh, Okay. That's fine.
20. That's fine, just speak to the staff member always before going into the PM's and messaging the player.
21. First confront them, best rule of thumb is they might have a good reason for it, then go to their senior then their manager.
People have already Snypehunter.exe'd your application but I'm not sure you're the right pick for staff. You have a heavy-hand when it comes to some of the ban times and less procedural smarts despite them being posted in Annoucements.
Not to mention three EORG notes.
Made extremely lewd and uncalled for comments to other aliens saying they're going to be inside them. Link below. 24h ban. https://gyazo.com/4c59f2255682b4ee765b65dc63f0157f | Sun, May 1st of 2016
Shot up a marine at the end of the round, but I was not able to see the logs until the victim showed me a picture of last round. Just adding a warning as they did not know this was a rule (which many servers allow, to be fair) and was polite when questioned. Warned not to EORG again, ban reccomended if so. | Tue, August 23rd of 2016
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Mon, April 30th of 2018
Warned for ID rules - picking up IDs. | Sat, May 5th of 2018
Warned for OOC in IC (Via prayers) | Thu, May 24th of 2018
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Tue, June 19th of 2018
Made 18+ Comments, memery at it's finest too be fair, got a 24 hour ban in 2016 - then returns in 2018 to rack up atleast one note every month April-June. Your notes don't descript the situation, but i'm still unsure that you're pass your past.
You also received a forum-warning for responding to a Developer's Application basically just +1ing it.
I'm going to -1 it for now.
1. You said you would leave it IC but then you said you would have them re-read the rules, is it a rulebreak that needs your moderation or is it an In-Character Situation?
2. This question is Irrelevant now
3. You'd make a good Mentor.
4. Nudge them to the forums for a staff report.
5. I wouldn't say this is ignorance, they haven't been told before and have played for a decently-long period of time. The rest of that is fine.
6. Formatting Issue, you placed it on the same line. I wouldn't bwoink any MP's and urge them to do something in the round. The acceptable standard is to investigate the individual and possibly job-ban them depending on their response.
7. This question is Irrelevant now.
8. Meh, 4 Honour-esk, but Good.
9. -----
10. Eh, straight to 24h - round ban is the first step - not a full day ban.
11. The proper response is tit for tat, if they punch you - you can punch them and continue to punch them, when it gets escalated to knifes, you can knife them, guns - guns. Must follow that brief outline (can be punched / damaged into crit or killed if the fist-fight is prolonged enough)
12. Ping one on slack if needbe.
13. Slip-Slope here, but generally explaining that this is the internet is a good way for the 1/10 person to stop being offended and move on.
14. Marine logged off so there's no communiquating to them. P-ban is fine, honestly.
15. Job-Ban? When might that be acceptable versus just a slap on the wrist.
16. Note them as well.
17. No...they can call it a Dropship, it's fine to use the plain english of objects.
18. Note for Metagaming?
19. Meh, Okay. That's fine.
20. That's fine, just speak to the staff member always before going into the PM's and messaging the player.
21. First confront them, best rule of thumb is they might have a good reason for it, then go to their senior then their manager.
People have already Snypehunter.exe'd your application but I'm not sure you're the right pick for staff. You have a heavy-hand when it comes to some of the ban times and less procedural smarts despite them being posted in Annoucements.
Not to mention three EORG notes.
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First the 24h ban as the queen, I have nothing to say about that. I was taking a joke/roleplay too far and I did that, no excuses.TexasTwoStep wrote: ↑02 Aug 2018, 16:06Daturix's Notes:
Made extremely lewd and uncalled for comments to other aliens saying they're going to be inside them. Link below. 24h ban. https://gyazo.com/4c59f2255682b4ee765b65dc63f0157f | Sun, May 1st of 2016
Shot up a marine at the end of the round, but I was not able to see the logs until the victim showed me a picture of last round. Just adding a warning as they did not know this was a rule (which many servers allow, to be fair) and was polite when questioned. Warned not to EORG again, ban reccomended if so. | Tue, August 23rd of 2016
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Mon, April 30th of 2018
Warned for ID rules - picking up IDs. | Sat, May 5th of 2018
Warned for OOC in IC (Via prayers) | Thu, May 24th of 2018
Banned |Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: EORG | Tue, June 19th of 2018
Made 18+ Comments, memery at it's finest too be fair, got a 24 hour ban in 2016 - then returns in 2018 to rack up atleast one note every month April-June. Your notes don't descript the situation, but i'm still unsure that you're pass your past.
You also received a forum-warning for responding to a Developer's Application basically just +1ing it.
I'm going to -1 it for now.
1. You said you would leave it IC but then you said you would have them re-read the rules, is it a rulebreak that needs your moderation or is it an In-Character Situation?
2. This question is Irrelevant now
3. You'd make a good Mentor.
4. Nudge them to the forums for a staff report.
5. I wouldn't say this is ignorance, they haven't been told before and have played for a decently-long period of time. The rest of that is fine.
6. Formatting Issue, you placed it on the same line. I wouldn't bwoink any MP's and urge them to do something in the round. The acceptable standard is to investigate the individual and possibly job-ban them depending on their response.
7. This question is Irrelevant now.
8. Meh, 4 Honour-esk, but Good.
9. -----
10. Eh, straight to 24h - round ban is the first step - not a full day ban.
11. The proper response is tit for tat, if they punch you - you can punch them and continue to punch them, when it gets escalated to knifes, you can knife them, guns - guns. Must follow that brief outline (can be punched / damaged into crit or killed if the fist-fight is prolonged enough)
12. Ping one on slack if needbe.
13. Slip-Slope here, but generally explaining that this is the internet is a good way for the 1/10 person to stop being offended and move on.
14. Marine logged off so there's no communiquating to them. P-ban is fine, honestly.
15. Job-Ban? When might that be acceptable versus just a slap on the wrist.
16. Note them as well.
17. No...they can call it a Dropship, it's fine to use the plain english of objects.
18. Note for Metagaming?
19. Meh, Okay. That's fine.
20. That's fine, just speak to the staff member always before going into the PM's and messaging the player.
21. First confront them, best rule of thumb is they might have a good reason for it, then go to their senior then their manager.
People have already Snypehunter.exe'd your application but I'm not sure you're the right pick for staff. You have a heavy-hand when it comes to some of the ban times and less procedural smarts despite them being posted in Annoucements.
Not to mention three EORG notes.
The EORG back in 2016 I will admit I hadn't looked at the rules, plain and simple for that. I have taken an extensive look at the rules, prior to the changes that happend abit ago and after the changes.
The EORG back in April or June, one of them was for suicide which I did not undrstand was EORG. And the other I cannot remember but I did both and was punished and understand it better now.
The picking up the ID, I had took picked up an ID from I believe an ERT? Didn't understand at the time the rules were unlike they are now as it was not allowed to touch the ID's at all. I was warned, although I must say the admin who did it came off quite strongly at the time but all things I did make a mistake and have learned from it.
I had used prayer to try to ask an admin a question but didn't think it required a full on ahelp. The admin had explained to me to just use Ahelp for any and all questions regardless of importance as mentors are there to answer that kind of thing specifically.
Now the notes of all besides the 24h back in 2016, I did not receive any notice I had those, and when I spoke to SLC earlier in the year about when they publically asked for those interested in becoming staff I at the time only had the 24h ban and checking our messages again did not mention the EORG note. So please excuse me for not mentioning those above, my fault for not knowing my full notes before making the application.
As for the forum-warning I did speak with spooky who alerted me I had a warning, and I had thought with the "Non-Staff who post in applications are restricted to giving feedback on their experiences with that person only, not questioning the applicant or their application." clause that I could put in my word, but he stated that it was for "as the rule says, only as a character witness." So I misintertrepped the rules there.
As for the situations ;
1. I would leave it IC unless if they the person shot ahelps which then makes it an ooc issue by bringing it to the administration. Now if no ahelp is made then it stays completely IC, as if the player at fault is even fighting the MP's thats still in game IC'ly.
2. Okay.
3. Over on TG we'd get a large amount of brand new players and I'd often be adminning both/all three servers at once when it was late hours so I was often helping players. Thank you for the compliment.
4. Alright.
5. I will say I am probably more heavy handed on naming policies as I was a large voice for saying TG to update their naming policy so that I need to work more on the intent of the player here.
6. Alas I made a mistake, all I can say is rip my application. As Awan mentioned, they might be gearing up to go planetside, I would see a job-ban to be harsh if it was their first offense but besides that a good warning & note would be sufficent if they are just armed to be armed.
7. Alright.
8. The Queen Mother and High Command are aspects of the game IC'ly and to use them to push an OOC message wouldn't fit right with me. Using them for more IC messages I believe would bring more IC response. Although thats just my opinion and thoughts on the situation.
9. It is what I've heard by staff and what is correct to my knowledge.
10. A case of server difference and my mistake. TG we had a 24h base ban for most bans. I have since learned earlier in the thread its to start with a 3h then 24h if something is worse or if the player in question has a history of doing this.
11. Proper escalation yes, I am one for just walking away. But I do understand what you mean.
12. If there are none on the server that are available, then yes onto slack. Thank you for the slight bit I didn't think of.
13. Alright, understandable and abit easier way to handle that.
14. A matter of opinion and something that I would refine as with more experience with the adminning style here on CM.
15. So, a lot of things can be difficult to interpret as intention is a very large factor in alot of things. FF, if the marine intend to shoot the other marine, did he try to do it so it looked like an accident or was it a plain accident? Hoping that the larva was just being near the frontline to be there when they evolve would be harmless. But if they had rushed to the frontline and just didn't hide or if I did not see anything, died in very short amount of time. When I speak with them and they have no good reasons why they rushed I'd give them a warning, of course with a history of doing this I'd apply a larger ban and If I see its a continue'd history of multiple notes a job-ban would be sufficent in my opinion.
16. Thank you for the elaboration on what I should do there.
17. Alright, I don't remember where I had read it but it could have been a guide on the wiki to call the marines things as simple objects. I still see xenos using the simple names for stuff as recently as yesterday. Seems to be a matter of if the player wants to use that roleplay or not.
18. Metagaming I wouldn't think be the case on the basis of this looking like a simple mistake. Metagaming I believe is breaking into the armory for the mk221 shotty as its no pumping would allow a marine upon first contact to easily kill a rav. I'd say it'd at most be metainfo and for the situation being just using a word wouldn't be the end of the round for it. Of course I'd learn more of what the vision/admin style on CM is with experience. So I can say I answered this question wrong then.
19. The situation can be hard to determine intent which I like to base a lot of things on as it's not always a clear cut of "oh this player was obviously doing this in bad will or against rules".
20. Of course, I wouldn't want to insult my fellow staff by just jumping into the ticket and say "Heyyy, that admin is wrong and the answer is actually this" I't be better for both of us for me to politely inform the other staff and then they can rectify the misinformation themselves rather than me getting involved with the ticket when I shouldn't.
I assume you mean 20a here. 20a. I understand, I thought that possibly confronting a fellow staff would cause trouble for all parties involved but to ensure that staff are still looking at fellow staff for breaking rules is certainly a good display of good faith for the players that staff aren't exempt from the rules, even if they players do not get to see this.
I cannot say I know the meme of gettign Snypehunter.exe'd but I do apologize for the inconsistant thoughts on the ban times. I rarely get in situations that would teach me the ban times here. My past experience we had a base time of a day so I was making poor assumptions and can only take blame as I did not think it through well enough.
As for having 3 EORG notes, I cannot speak for how bad this is considered to others or the ramifications but I can ensure there wont be more.
Finally I must thank you for bringing these up. As it does make me think in different ways than I normally would and helps me get a finer grasp on just what the staff are required to do and how the administration style works.
And I think my application is now invalid as I did not notice my format issue prior. But I do not know what is the course that's going to happen.
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Answers are decent. +1
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If you have any points which you can give me any criticism that I can improve upon for the future that would be much appreciated.
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I think your answers are fine, and I've seen you in game and you don't cause issues.
However the lack of a space between your nickname triggers me bad, but you have my +1
However the lack of a space between your nickname triggers me bad, but you have my +1
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Perhaps we should add 2 additional characters to the limit so I can do so :^)ThesoldierLLJK wrote: ↑03 Aug 2018, 19:33I think your answers are fine, and I've seen you in game and you don't cause issues.
However the lack of a space between your nickname triggers me bad, but you have my +1
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I for one am not one to say anyone their reply will ever be perfect. All mods have another opinion on certain things. A reply that is decent/good enough for what we can expect for someone not part of the staff is ok here. Many questions are outdated or have something we disagree with. So most mod will reply saying awnsers are decent or perhaps good. But never perfect.
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Jayne is a cool person and I'm pretty sure they will make a good mod.
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If you could elaborate in any possible ways as to how I would be a good addition to the team that'd be much appreciate and thank you for the +1.AcuteCircle wrote: ↑08 Aug 2018, 01:26Jayne is a cool person and I'm pretty sure they will make a good mod.
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I'd be more than happy to see Daturix join the Mod Team.
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