Commander Report - Patton 'Hardtack' Moore

[FracturedAntler]

Your Byond Key:
FracturedAntler

Your Character Name:
Maximilian Valentine

Accused Byond Key:
Taketheshot56

Character Name:
Patton 'Hardtack' Moore

Approximate time and date of the incident:
10:20 PM Central Standard Time

What rules were broken:
3. No Griefing
4. No Powergaming
13. Battlefield Execution
16. Lethal Force

Description of the incident:
I, Maximilian Valentine, Corporate Liaison of the skies, take a brief stroll into the CIC so I can have a chat with the commander. I say something about beer in his Bible, how it would be a shame if anyone were to find out. Now, this wasn't a real threat, just a cute little character building moment for my corporate liaison role. So, we continue our conversation, he refuses to sign my paper, normal commander shit. We talk about The Company, I'm roleplaying as the typical Corporate loyalist, he's the stern commander who don't give no damn 'bout no big company. All fun and games. I "threaten him" by saying "We'll see about that!" as I walk out and he says something about The Company having no authority. And you know what? Under a normal situation, it would just be a fun little grudge between the liaison and the commander, but he took it too far.

I sequester myself in my office, fearing for my self because literally as soon as I left the commander's office he called security on me. I write my lil' fax to The Company about the incident, but I hear a knock on my door! But would you imagine who was knocking on my door (and by knocking on, I mean breaking into the reinforced wall to my office)? None other than the commander himself (well, technically a maintenance tech)! He was accompanied by a random PFC who he called his "deputy?" Apparently when he said "Yes I do understand, the only time I should ever come close to enforcing anything would be with a battlefield execution in an extremely dire situation" on his commander application, not only did he not mean it, but he literally became the "I am the law meme" that shit commanders used to be known for.

I ask to grow my apples, so that after I got arrested I would have something to come back to. Conveniently, the blast door button is right next to the planters, so I take my chance and make my escape. And I'm not fucking kidding when I say that this commander was fucking committed, he literally chased me through the upper deck for like what seemed like five minutes. But our fun is over when the commander pushes me over and takes my briefcase. I gather the strength of 1,000 bureaucrats and will myself up, I push over the commander and retake my Corporate assets. Little did I know that what I did next would be battlefield execution worthy: I hit him. Over the head. With my briefcase! The horror! Could you imagine? Officer Commander apparently forgot his taser and he pulled out his Mateba! I felt like an African American male in today's society that we live in (bottom text) encountering a police officer who "feared for their lives."

However, our commander is no Bill Carson. He fires probably three shots at me, doesn't hit a single one. I realize at this point "Hey, this is probably a situation where you're allowed to shoot back!" and I pull out my handy dandy 88 Mod 4 and shoot at the commander. And, remarkably, a corporate liaison is a better shot than a marine because I shot him once and he didn't get me a single time. I used this opportunity to escape to the lower levels, and make for LV-624. Some fucking narc snitch ass bitch told people I was on the Alamo, so I moved my ass to the Normandy. I waited for a while for it to leave, when I realized I could just take it myself. So I do. But, it doesn't leave quick enough. Some mech loader dude and a staff officer come to apprehend me. I escape their grasp briefly, when I'm taken hostage by two other marines who start beating me. The robust God that I am gets out of their way, but bullets start flying. And I, again, being a responsible, rule abiding good boy, wait to start shooting.

Jesus... the friendly fire. So much fucking friendly fire. Barely anything hit me out of dozens of bullets shot (good job, guys). But, alas, my story comes to an end and I die. Maybe, by now, the commander came around to his senses? No. He doesn't. Doctors try to defib me, but either he doesn't let them or I had so much brute damage (he said on Discord that it was impossible) So, now that my story has come to an end, what about Officer Commander Moore? Well, he isn't done with me, he needs to make the announcement about killing me!

Wait, I "tried to inject" the commander? Literally no where in the logs will you see anything like that, and it's just a bold faced lie to the crew to make him seem more justified in killing me.

Evidence:
Well, my dumb-ass took screenshots through BYOND which apparently doesn't include the chat so, I don't really have any. I'm sure that all the people who told me to make a report would love to share what they saw, and their side of the story though.

How you would punish the accused:
Look, he came to me in Discord, he seemed apologetic (despite the fact that he lied about the situation to the CMP after the fact, and I'm still not sure if he would be apologetic about it if people OOC didn't make a fuss about it) I told him that I'd leave the decision entirely up the admins. Personally, I'm conflicted. Because commander should be a serious role, and I just don't know if it suits someone who made these kinds of choices.

[Dubszor]

Okay! Well, i was a direct witness to everything after the CO broke into the CL's office.(I was observing). Everything FracturedAntler said, is true as far as i have seen. Truthfully, i feel as if the CO was being lrp/on the verge of soft griefing the CL. I had a super long post describing what i saw, but then i saw the rules said keep it simple, so i will. Sadly, i can't pull my logs from the round since it was too late.(Having ALL radio channels on does a wonder to your logs).

EDIT: I'm also one of the people who told Antler to write a report.

[taketheshot56]

Indeed you came to me in my office and threatened to blackmail me about my booze. Further being confrontational which is completely fine. I did indeed call the MPs because i believe threatening the CO with blackmail and otherwise within the first two minutes is disorderly. You ran back to your office. I call for Mps again at this point I check the manifest and confirm with the XO that ZERO MPs and CMPs were online. So I did indeed head off to the CLs office and I asked several members of charlie to accompany me just in case as there were still no MPs on. So the CE comes and he opens the wall for me and we go in. I was quite calm and I said you were gonna be detained. After we are inside your office a CMP finally wakes up and we call for him. He doesnt respond. So i tell you to wait there for the CMP to come get you. You made a break for it down the hall and myself and the charlie PFC that went with me gave chase While it may have seemed life five minutes it was more like one minute. I tried to tackle you few times and I did. You got up, and according to ROB hit me with the briefcase six times.

Now, to the injection part. When you hit me with the briefcase there was zero attack noise and I suddenly got very dizzy and my vision began fading. To me this seemed very much like some sort of injector attack. What it appears to have been however, was me having my skull cracked and you giving me brain damage which resulted in very similar effects to some sort of injection. Blurry fading vision, Dizziness. The text had scrolled up to much before I could check several minutes later and I assumed you had indeed injected me when in reality i had brain damage from the concussion. So yes, upon having that happen i drew my mateba and missed every single shot I fired. You were completely in the right to return fire. Resulting in my immense wounding. I call for help over comms. We call for the CMP who is alone again and cannot leave the brig due to the fact that there are no other MPs on and they have a prisoner.

So I tell the marines to shoot on sight due to the fact you are hostile and and armed.

At this point im taken for surgery for the large wounds i have received. While in the auto doc I make several orders to ensure you are properly defibbed when I heard you had been shot. The medics brought you into medbay and I continued to order them to repair the damage and revive you unfortunately it was too late. I did not at any point order you not to be defibbed I very much wanted you treated.

What followed was myself being pinged by ROB and we had very long conversation regarding the situation. Upon which I was indeed punished for the situation and given a hefty warning regarding the situation.

As for the rules broken. The issue of me going after you to enforce the law with no MPs on. Was dealt with in game with Rob.

for the BE, you did indeed attack me and caused severe enough damage with that briefcase to give me a concussion which took on the symptoms of some sort of injected chemical. Dizziness, blurry fading vision. So I did indeed at that point open fire upon you.

As for the announcement I ensured i made one regarding the situation and i informed the CMP if he had any questions to be sure to contact the Provost. The whole briefcase concussion thing was not made clear to me until later.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

Character witness here. Patton's had a seriously long history of being known for being strict to the point of hilarity and I'd even say 'BE hungry' most rounds he's CO. I personally don't consider him to usually be behaving as a proper CO should and executes/attempts to execute/threatens to execute for things that are seriously not worth the bullets.

[taketheshot56]

Character witness here. Patton's had a seriously long history of being known for being strict to the point of hilarity and I'd even say 'BE hungry' most rounds he's CO. I personally don't consider him to usually be behaving as a proper CO should and executes/attempts to execute/threatens to execute for things that are seriously not worth the bullets.

Really? If Im so enamored with BEs as you claim. Why did i not have every single one of your mutineers executed just the other day? Ive never had a report on me before surrounding a BE unlike many other COs.

Nor do I have any previous notes regarding bad BEs. Every BE ive done before has been legitimate and determined legal. Smacking the COs skull with a briefcase 6 times giving him a concussion with no MPs in sight is more than reasonable to defend ones self.

I run a strict ship that is my prerogative as CO. Other COs base their quirks off other things. I base mine off discipline.

It seems to me you are making your character report off the fact that I squashed your "Cardboard cult" the other day in cargo and said "Heads will roll, literally" if you didnt drop the cult act and work like normal marines. Later in that round yourself leading a mutiny over the fact I didnt tolerate your cult.

[GoliathTheDespoiler]

Really? If Im so enamored with BEs as you claim. Why did i not have every single one of your mutineers executed just the other day? Ive never had a report on me before surrounding a BE unlike many other COs.

Nor do I have any previous notes regarding bad BEs. Every BE ive done before has been legitimate and determined legal. Smacking the COs skull with a briefcase 6 times giving him a concussion with no MPs in sight is more than reasonable to defend ones self.

I run a strict ship that is my prerogative as CO. Other COs base their quirks off other things. I base mine off discipline.

It seems to me you are making your character report off the fact that I squashed your "Cardboard cult" the other day in cargo and said "Heads will roll, literally" if you didnt drop the cult act and work like normal marines. Later in that round yourself leading a mutiny over the fact I didnt tolerate your cult.

That is related, but that isn't the entirety of why I made that witness claim. You've always, as far as I'm aware, been one to look to BE things, and going so far over someone who just said 'we'll see about that' is pretty in character with what I've claimed. But that is my opinion, and it should be taken as that.

[awan]

I think the entire report here will be mostly about the BE and not other actions during this round as another staff member already dealt with those. There is however one thing I want to adress and I will do so below a warning tag.
So taketheshot as a whitelisted commander can do a BE when he sees you as a threat to the mission.

!	Message from: awan
	The following is my opinion and other staff may disagree.

It has been ruled that the CO cannot give someone else the authority to BE. They have to do it themselves. They can also not order blue on blue for other reasons. The order listing you to be shot on sight would thus i.m.o have been an illegal order and the players were not justified in shooting the CL. That makes it a potential rulebreak for those players as well. When I get home I will look into the logs and post some additional information.

Edit:If you follow the provisions/procedure in marine law you can get mp's to use lethal force on subjects without issue.
The above was about a blanket order to kill someone for all marines.

[FGRSentinel]

Just going to comment as a character witness, but I have to agree with Goliath's statement. I've believed Hardtack is BE-obsessed since my first round under his command when he tried (and failed) to BE someone for wearing a clown mask and refusing to remove it. Nobody reported it because he Hardtack got killed in the process, I think, but it still set the standard for what I expect from him.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

I was on last night during the tail end of this and can confirm that RobBrown4PM handled the rule violation issue.

I will be posting the various logs.

The conversation about alcohol/NDA

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[19:44:22]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Beer in your Bible?
[19:44:31]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Would be a shame if that nugget of information got anywhere.
[19:44:38]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : But, not to worry
[19:44:40]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Are you threatening me?
[19:44:43]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : That's not what I'm here about.
[19:44:47]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : I think you are

CL then starts writing a form, looks like NDA form

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[19:45:02]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Get on with it
[19:45:05]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : So!
[19:45:15]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Denied
[19:45:17]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : The Company would like for you to sign-
[19:45:21]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Denied?
[19:45:23]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Yep
[19:45:36]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : We own this ship.
[19:45:39]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : We own the USCM.
[19:45:40]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : No you dont
[19:45:43]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : No you dont
[19:45:45]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : But you won't sign?
[19:45:47]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Nope
[19:45:52]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : We own a majority of the shares.
[19:46:06]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You cannot own shares in the United States uniformed armed services
[19:46:17]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Bet.
[19:46:20]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : I bet
[19:46:26]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Look it up CL
[19:46:38]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : We BOUGHT this ship from you as a contractor
[19:46:43]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You produced it FOR us
[19:46:48]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : And we paid for it in full
[19:47:00]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Alright you right.
[19:47:02]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You right.
[19:47:04]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : The president of these united states and the holy taxpayer owns this ship
[19:47:08]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : But you're still supplied majorly by us.
[19:47:14]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Nope
[19:47:19]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Yes.
[19:47:23]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Armat provides 70% of all our contracts
[19:47:28]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Followed by raytheon
[19:47:30]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Followed by BAE
[19:47:34]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Thennnn Wey yu
[19:47:37]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : With 1.3%
[19:48:11]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You're undermining The Company's authority.
[19:48:12]EMOTE: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : <B>CDR Patton 'Hardtack' Moore</B> Ashes fall from his cigar as he breathes a thick cloud of smoke in the CLs direction
[19:48:18]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You have ZERO authority
[19:48:27]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You are here AS a guest
[19:48:27]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : We'll see about that.
[19:48:32]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Are you threatening me?
[19:48:37]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : MPs to my office

CO attempts to contact MP's

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[19:49:22]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CLs bein fucky
[19:49:29]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : MPs report in
[19:49:36]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : No MPs....

CO attempts to get a "deputy" to go to the CL office

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[19:50:56]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Who wants to become a deputy?
[19:51:03]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : And assist me in law enforcin
[19:51:15]SAY: Jamie 'Sledge' Hardy : Define deputy
[19:51:16]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Report to the outside of the CLs office
[19:51:20]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Bring an engineer

CL Fax to Company

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[19:51:31]ADMIN: PAPER: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) tried to write something. First 100 characters: [center][logo]
[small]Corporate. Special Projects Division[/center]


Form 435

Liaison Oper

CO discusses CL and his intent

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[19:51:35]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CL has decided to threaten myself
[19:51:35]SAY: Victor Rennem : CDR
[19:51:37]SAY: Victor Rennem: Can I come
[19:51:42]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You may victor
[19:52:05]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : First two here get to help me
[19:52:09]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Be speedy
[19:52:56]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CE to outside the CLs office
[19:53:01]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Ive got all the backup i need
[19:53:20]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CL says I am undermining his authority
[19:53:29]SAY: Victor Rennem : What authority does he have?
[19:53:31]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : And has threatened me
[19:53:32]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Zero
[19:53:48]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Good
[19:53:51]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CE
[19:53:53]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Be speedy
[19:53:58]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Cut down the wall
[19:54:08]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Actually
[19:54:09]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Wait
[19:54:13]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Go through the back door
[19:54:27]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Spec
[19:54:29]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Guard the front door
[19:54:40]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Im gonna have some choice words with him
[19:55:10]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Jaimie
[19:55:12]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You are my backup
[19:56:10]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Tow the girder into the hall

CL writes something

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[19:57:02]ADMIN: PAPER: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) tried to write something. First 100 characters: Dear Corporate,

I recently woke up on the USS Almayer, as did everyone else. As the marines were p

CO confronts the CL

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[19:57:14]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Right CL
[19:57:21]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Yes?
[19:57:21]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You think you can threaten myself
[19:57:23]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : And the corps
[19:57:28]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Did I ever threaten you?
[19:57:30]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Tes
[19:57:34]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Yes you most certainly did
[19:57:40]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : With blackmail too
[19:57:43]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You have no proof of this.
[19:57:46]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Blackmail?
[19:57:46]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Go ahead and get on the floor
[19:57:51]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Moore.
[19:58:04]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I did not such thing.
[19:58:10]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Yes you most certainly did
[19:58:17]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : How did I threaten you?
[19:58:26]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I asked you to sign a paper and I reminded you of your debt to The Company.
[19:58:35]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Tell us in front of this marine how I threatened you.
[19:58:38]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : When I said the company has no authority here you said "we will see about that"
[19:58:38]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : What did I say?
[19:58:47]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You threatened to expose the booze in my bible
[19:58:49]SAY: Jamie 'Sledge' Hardy: He did
[19:58:52]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : As a piece of blackmail
[19:58:56]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : No Commander Moore, I think you just did.
[19:59:04]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : I trust my deputy
[19:59:12]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Your... Deputy?
[19:59:15]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You have a deputy?
[19:59:08]SAY: Jamie 'Sledge' Hardy: I dont thionk booze in a ible is illegal
[19:59:15]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Yes
[19:59:27]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You realize it isn't your duty to enforce Space Law?
[19:59:33]SAY: Jamie 'Sledge' Hardy : Dont care
[19:59:43]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Seems a CMP is awake to
[19:59:46]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CMP
[19:59:50]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Report to the CLs office
[19:59:53]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Anyway
[19:59:55]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Through the backdoor
[19:59:56]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Anyway
[19:59:57]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I have done nothing.
[20:00:00]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : You threatened me
[20:00:04]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Did I
[20:00:09]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Mhm
[20:00:15]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I don't know about that.
[20:00:40]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : Well, before you imprison me, at least let me plant my apples so I have something to come back to.
[20:01:23]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Go ahead and lay down on the floor
[20:01:36]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : You are not allowed to enforce Space Law.

Also ahelp sent to admins from CL

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[19:59:47]ADMIN: HELP: FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine): Is it okay for the commander to enforce space law with a &#34;deputy?&#34; - heard by 6 non-AFK admins.

The Struggle begins

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[20:02:45]ATTACK: Taketheshot56/(Patton 'Hardtack' Moore) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:03:06]ATTACK: Taketheshot56/(Patton 'Hardtack' Moore) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantle
[20:03:07]ATTACK: Taketheshot56/(Patton 'Hardtack' Moore) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:03:08]ATTACK: Taketheshot56/(Patton 'Hardtack' Moore) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:03:10]ATTACK: FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine) disarmed Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56)
20:03:14]ATTACK: FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine) disarmed Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56)
[20:03:17]ATTACK: FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine) disarmed Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56)
[20:03:20]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:21]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:22]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:23]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:23]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : HELP
[20:03:25]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:27]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) attacked Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with briefcase (INTENT: DISARM)
[20:03:36]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) shot Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (taketheshot56) with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Medical Upper
[20:03:36]EMOTE: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : <B>CDR Patton 'Hardtack' Moore</B> screams!
[20:03:39]EMOTE: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : <B>CDR Patton 'Hardtack' Moore</B> screams!

CO declares the CL hostile

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[20:03:40]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Cl is hostile!
20:03:44]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Cl is hostile!
[20:03:47]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : IM DOWN!
[20:03:50]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : UPPER DECK
[20:04:10]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CL tried to inject me
[20:04:19]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Get the cl!!!!
[20:04:25]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : HIS OFFICE
[20:04:38]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : NO!
[20:05:56]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : FIND THE CL!!
[20:06:05]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Cl IS HOSTILE
[20:06:12]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Set RED XO
[20:06:15]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : No!
[20:06:17]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : I got shot!

CL attempts to go planetside on the Normandy

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[20:07:10]ADMIN: Maximilian Valentine (FracturedAntler) launched a shuttle from the 'Normandy' flight controls

CL is Confronted by marines on the Normandy

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[20:07:55]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : DO NOT!
[20:07:57]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I HAVE MONEY!
[20:07:58]ATTACK: (Victor Rennem) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:07:59]ATTACK: (Victor Rennem) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:07:59]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:00]SAY: Fugo 'Sheriff' Kilmister : DON'T LET THE CL OFF THE NORMANDY.
[20:08:00]SAY: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : I
[20:08:00]ATTACK: (Victor Rennem) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:08:01]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:02]SAY: Gracie Honour: And arrest em now
[20:08:02]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:05]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) shot Marcus Rekham (scsnv) with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:08]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) shot Emily Horowitz (boxofstuff) with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit

Command Announcement where commander decalres open season on CL so to say.

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[20:08:12]SAY: Taketheshot56/(Patton 'Hardtack' Moore) has made Command Announcement: Command Announcement - Attention marines.

Upon entering my office the CL attempted to threaten me with blackmail in the form of my raging alcoholism. He further claimed that Weyland had authority over the corps. He ran off.

Myself and a deputy PFC went to detain him until the CMP could respond due to his disorderly behaviour, he ran. He then attempted to inject me with some form of poison and we began a gunfight. He has wounded me gravely. He is armed and EXTREMELY DANGEROUS!

Shoot on sight marines. - Patton 'Hardtack' Moore (Commander)

After announcement fight on Normandy

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[20:08:13]SAY: Victor Renneem: HEs SHOOTING US
[20:08:15]SAY: Victor Rennem: O HGOD
20:08:22]ATTACK: Marcus Rekham shot Victor Rennem with a pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:31]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Victor Rennem with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:31]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Victor Rennem with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:31]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Melvin Teagarden with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:35]ATTACK: Jon 'Red' Gibson shot Emily Horowitz with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:36]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) shot Marcus Rekham with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:37]ATTACK: Marcus Rekham shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:37]ATTACK: Marcus Rekham shot Jon 'Red' Gibson with a pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:39]EMOTE: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : <B>Mr. Maximilian Valentine</B> screams!
[20:08:39]EMOTE: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : <B>Mr. Maximilian Valentine</B> cries out and drops what they were holding in their right hand
[20:08:42]ATTACK: Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) shot Victor Rennem with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:42]ATTACK: Dralin 'Snuggles' Malfet shot Marcus Rekham with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:44]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:45]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) disarmed Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler)
[20:08:45]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:46]ATTACK: Dralin 'Snuggles' Malfet shot Emily Horowitz with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:46]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transi
[20:08:46]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:46]EMOTE: Maximilian Valentine/FracturedAntler : <B>Mr. Maximilian Valentine</B> screams!
[20:08:47]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:47]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:48]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:48]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:50]ATTACK: (Marcus Rekham) attacked FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine) with M4A3 custom pistol (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:08:51]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:51]ATTACK: Jon 'Red' Gibson shot Maximilian Valentine (fracturedantler) with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:51]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched FracturedAntler/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:51]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Unknown (as Maximilian Valentine) () with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:52]ATTACK: (Marcus Rekham) attacked *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine) with M4A3 custom pistol (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:08:52]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Unknown (as Maximilian Valentine) () with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:52]ATTACK: (Emily Horowitz) punched *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:08:52]ATTACK: Dralin 'Snuggles' Malfet shot Unknown (as Maximilian Valentine) () with an armor-piercing pistol bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:52]ATTACK: Jon 'Red' Gibson shot Unknown (as Maximilian Valentine) () with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:53]ATTACK: Zachary 'Boots' Ahmed shot Unknown (as Maximilian Valentine) () with a rifle bullet in the Dropship Normandy Transit
[20:08:53]ATTACK: Scsnv/(Marcus Rekham) attacked *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine) with M4A3 custom pistol (INTENT: HURT) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:08:53]ATTACK: BoxOfStuff/(Emily Horowitz) punched *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine)
[20:09:21]ATTACK: (James Castleton) attacked *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE)
[20:09:22]ATTACK: (James Castleton) attacked *no key*/(Maximilian Valentine) with M5 'Night Raider' survival knife (INTENT: HELP) (DAMTYE: BRUTE

The CL has been located and killed, CO wants him revived

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[20:09:49]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Get him up here to be revived and imprisoned
[20:10:01]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Defib him
[20:10:04]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : And c-cuff h-his a-ass!
[20:10:10]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Keep him secure for the M-M-Mps
[20:10:49]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Ensure he i-is properly revived
[20:11:00]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : CL
[20:13:00]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : IS the CL revived?
[20:13:19]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : GET HIM REVIVED!
[20:13:24]SAY: Patton 'Hardtack' Moore/Taketheshot56 : Use inprov

[Bancrose]

Character Witness as I was a ghost.

As a Commander or the Warrant Officer. You may authorize Lethals on someone after they have proven armed and dangerous. So this is not a BE persay, Watching the CL fire lethals at the CO. Firing on the Marines, The fact you did that makes you literally open season. No commander would ever let you get away with that.

And as on the topic of Patton's character. You may find that hes a hardass but there is nothing against the rules in that. And to say hes BE hungry. Well have you met me before? I'd consider Patton tame by most standards, as he will go the MP route...usually.

[taketheshot56]

Just going to comment as a character witness, but I have to agree with Goliath's statement. I've believed Hardtack is BE-obsessed since my first round under his command when he tried (and failed) to BE someone for wearing a clown mask and refusing to remove it. Nobody reported it because he Hardtack got killed in the process, I think, but it still set the standard for what I expect from him.

Well the primary reason for that attempted BE was for massive insubordination at the hands of Charlie SL who drew his chimp gun on me when he was acting out the role of a clown since be believed that is what staff wanted. The clown mask caused many issues and thus it was subsequenlty hasn't been since with me having spoken to the admin running that round for half an hour and them agreeing with me.

I think the entire report here will be mostly about the BE and not other actions during this round as another staff member already dealt with those. There is however one thing I want to adress and I will do so below a warning tag.
So taketheshot as a whitelisted commander can do a BE when he sees you as a threat to the mission.

!	Message from: awan
	The following is my opinion and other staff may disagree.

It has been ruled that the CO cannot give someone else the authority to BE. They have to do it themselves. They can also not order blue on blue for other reasons. The order listing you to be shot on sight would thus i.m.o have been an illegal order and the players were not justified in shooting the CL. That makes it a potential rulebreak for those players as well. When I get home I will look into the logs and post some additional information.

Edit:If you follow the provisions/procedure in marine law you can get mp's to use lethal force on subjects without issue.
The above was about a blanket order to kill someone for all marines.

I fully believe that I was justified I issuing the order to shoot on sight. The lethal force rule describes this as such.

"Do not attack another player without a legitimate, explainable roleplay reason that could be applied in a similar, real-life scenario. A fist fight does not suddenly escalate into a gun fight. Even if you are justified, you are still susceptible to Marine Law."

When the CL has opened fire on the CO he is 100% hostile. He is now moving through the ship having already used lethal force on the commander.

I called for the CMP to come deal with the situation and he could not respond due to the OOC rule about leaving the brig. Thus I gave the order to the marines.

Precadent has been seen before where shooting at the commander earns you a gunning down by the marines and no such issues have arisen.

[Mizari]

Honestly after reading this report it does indeed make me worried about the order for all marines to kill the CL which for me is a big no no. The situation itself was poorly managed at certain points like the arrest and chasing scenario.

I must stress my concern at this stage however management will decide on an appropriate course of action.

[Emeraldblood]

Alright, hitting the CO six time is a lot different than just one time. The BE is pretty valid under those actions and would be left IC (being you started to assault him), however, the CO is unable to label people to be killed. At best, he can announce them as a deserter and to be detained if found or maybe say that the CL tried to kill you and he's not allowed to get back on the ship or he'll be considered a hostile. The main point is you can't just tell everyone to murder a guy unless it's being done in a proper way (Execution or BE) but there's plenty of fair RP ways to go about this.

This will be left at a warning but future CO rule breaks from taketheshot56 will result in CO suspension/removal.