Vaughn Isemann's CO whitelist app

[Loco52]

Byond ID: Loco52

Player name you use the most: Vaughn Isemann

Make a list of links to all of your applications and (job)ban appeals, including whitelist and staff apps, within the last year. Also, provide "Ban reason; Verdict" beside each (job)ban link:

• viewtopic.php?f=87&t=17310&p=198741&hil ... 52#p198741 | Jobbanned as CMP and MP for taking bribes to release prisoners from cells.
• Exact formatting is helpful but not required.

Do you understand that any player - even donors or staff members - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our Server Rules or Roleplay Guidelines?

Yes I do understand

Do you understand how the Battlefield Execution functions?

Yes, everyone can be BEd but the CMP and the reason for such BE must be valid (lethally attacked by one of your marines/staff, a player disrupting the OP in major standards are good examples)

Do you understand you are not above Marine law, or allowed to enforce it yourself?

Yes, I understand that the CMP has the final say in law matters and not the commander.

What do you think is the job of a Commander?

Oof, well, the Commander job is crucial for the game, a good commander is the commander who not only focuses on winning the operation, but also focuses on making the round funnier, entertaining and versatile for everyone. Being a Commander is more than running the operation, and of course, if that was the case why not just go XO? The commander enforces good IC relations between all marines and tries to make the round funnier for every player he interacts with. The Commander is ultimately the one man that can turn a shitty round into the best round of the day singlehandedly.

The sole presence of a good commander inspires and pushes the players to win the game, to accomplish the set goals. A commander that doesn't generate enough empathy with the rest of the players will ultimately disappoint and break the morale very easily throughout the round, and that's why constant interaction with all players is necessary to keep the wheel spinning and the round fun.

This man right here, the commander, holds the key of a good round all by himself.

If a member of your staff is disobeying orders, how would you handle it?

If a member of my staff disobeys orders I would start by warning them and threatening to mark them for insub. If they keep on going, then i'd call the MPs on them and order them demoted. If by disobeying my orders a member of the staff has placed the entire operation in danger, hurt many marines or incited a riot or mutiny, an execution or battlefield execution then would most likely take place as a last resort.

Some examples are:

SO Clark refuses to disobey my orders of ordering his squad to move into the northeastern LV Caves even though it's clear that's a wise path to take. I warn him to drop it. If SO Clark continues to avoid his duty, i'd then order the MPs to take him to brig for insubordination.

On the other hand, if SO Clark launches an OB using incorrect coordinates and thus getting fair share of a marine squad killed, oh boy, he's getting the BE.

Why should you be whitelisted?

I believe I should be whitelisted because I have a good grasp at commanding: I usually play CMP a lot, I have also played my fair share of SO and XO and when i'm a regular marine I always choose Squad Leader. Leading and drawing a path for people is what I believe I do best, also asides from this, I focus a lot on roleplaying every round. I always try to interact with everyone I encounter and devise plans, military exercises, etcetera. I believe the combination of my passion to lead and my inherent inclination to roleplay and IC story telling makes me fit for the commander position. I also have been here for a fair amount of months, am very active and learned from every mistake i've made I believe for the better.

[Brotemis]

I have to ask. On the SO that fires incorrectly, you never specified a couple things.

1) SO was provided incorrect coords?
2) SO fired the OB when it was called to be fired but marines unga dunga and run in anyway?

This is like BE'in the pilot because marines run underneath the dropship when it's landing. I would also wager that BE'ing is the wrong move since MP'so can just come up and arrest the SO anyway since the SO can't fire another OB.

[Loco52]

I have to ask. On the SO that fires incorrectly, you never specified a couple things.

1) SO was provided incorrect coords?
2) SO fired the OB when it was called to be fired but marines unga dunga and run in anyway?

This is like BE'in the pilot because marines run underneath the dropship when it's landing. I would also wager that BE'ing is the wrong move since MP'so can just come up and arrest the SO anyway since the SO can't fire another OB.

Maybe I didn't find the best words to describe the situation but here I go:

Given the case the SL provided the SO with incorrect coords or ambiguous instructions (ex. he wanted the SO to only write the coords down, not launch the OB but didn't make that clear to him) everyone'd be certain that the SO is free of responsibility and the SL is to blame for the entire failure. Now, the BE or formal execution may take place when:

1) The SO is given clear instructions to input coords and hold, but arbitrarly fires the OB taking with it many marines' lives and also damaging the op
2) The SO is not given any instructions to shoot anywhere, but decides to do it out of nowhere with made up coords or coords he heard about in comms throughout the operation or
3) The SO is fully aware that the OB, even though will eliminate some aliens, will cost the life of many marines and decides to fire it anyways at the expense of the lives of numerous bodyabled rines.

In all cases, the fault in OB mistakes is bestowed upon either the lazer or the SO, and it's the duty of the commander to find who is really guilty before taking any action.

Edit: I wanna make it clear that I'd always prefer to have him formally executed with the permission of the CMP than BEing if there are enough active MPs and operation is not fucked to the point I can't take a break to participate in the execution. I personally, as a player that likes to go CMP a lot also do not endorse permaing for such grave mistakes nor regular brigging.

[KingPhilipIII]

Sorry mate but I'm going to be leaning from neutral to -1.

I've had nothing but poor interactions with you as the XO, and while I admire your zeal, your communication skills are a dumpster fire and you can be a little iffy on your choices at times. What comes to mind was you taking away a mortar from a highly skilled engineering and giving it to another squad where nobody wanted it just because you wanted the FOB squad to be using it.

I remember several times where you'd requisition a crate, and then keep asking for it, and keep asking for it, but every time i respond it's already ready or I can't make it for whatever reason you never acknowledge it and just keep asking because you're clearly distracted.

They're things you can improve on very easily but I question your ability to multitask efficiently which will quickly leave you exasperated as the CO.

[Grubstank]

In my limited interaction with you as CMP and SO/XO you seemed far more interesting in lording your power over others rather than improving their roleplaying experience. I know it wasn't just an in character thing because you took that foul attitude into LOOC, too.

-1

[ThesoldierLLJK]

I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt and remain neutral until I can watch, but from what everyone says it sounds like you have to work on multitasking and delegation.

Your application is a bit bland and honestly automatically going to do a BE for someone firing an OB with possibly bad coordinates is a little blood thirsty to me.

[Loco52]

I appreciate the feedback, and answering to Haythem I remember exactly that XO round, it was my first XO round and I didn't know anything at all about the job. However yesterday I played an XO round under William Frost and manned the CIC all by myself as all SOs and CO were planetside, as well as req because RO was absent. But I believe i'll take your advise and play a little more XO so people can get to know my improvements IG.

[Frans_Feiffer]

I know it’s not what you’d like to hear, but i’m going neutral until I can see ya in action. I agree with Thesoldier, your application could use some work, and i’m sorta iffy on the BEing scenario. I think though with BEs, just knowing how they work is key, saying you’ll do one thing in a given situation is eh, as what would be a justifiable BE in one circumstance, may not be in another similar circumstance. Good luck though, and don’t fret if this gets denied, as it’ll mean you’ll have a good month to rework your App and give it another go after people have had time to change what they think of ya

[taketheshot56]

Im sorry, I rarely -1 applications but yours will have to be one of them my friend. While i think you are a fun guy you simply are not ready for the CO whitelist.

Ive seen you XO a total of once, when I was CO. I put you in charge of the operation while I dealt with an issue shipside, you gave essentially no orders. Didnt properly communicate with your SOs and hesitated to make decisions to the point where you simply never made any. Eventually for no real reason you screamed about going planetside, against CO orders and in neglect of duty. You were never seen again.

I STRONGLY recommend you take a month or two and really hammer out the XO role, learn how to command and then try again.

[ChengChan]

Morning man, I have read your application but this one is really bad idea " but also focuses on making the round funnier, entertaining and versatile for everyone" because in reality no commanders will act that, frankly. -1

[frozentsbgg]

Hey Loco,

Although I've had some mixed interactions with you, while you've been on as Command, I feel as if your swiftness to jump to the BE, is quite worrying. This combined with your inability to effectively communicate and delegate, leads me towards believing you aren't ready for the whitelist.
That being said, You've shown a lot of promise during your time in game as Command, and I'd love for you to eventually becoming a CO.
Spend the next month or two, playing XO, and getting more experience where it matters and I'm sure your next app will be more positive, but for now it's just a -1.

Thanks, dude, I look forward to you re-applying and joining the Whitelist at a later date..

[Loco52]

Thank you all, i'll work very hard this month to exceed your expectations in command chain. I've taken your feedback and am ready to work on my flaws. I understand my IC char is rude and memeish but please don't think i'm like that OOCly, my intentions were never to make players uncomfortable with my actions.

But I guess people get mad when you call them retarded even if it's ICly xddd love you all fr

[Accinator50]

I haven't played too much rounds with you to judge if you are a good acting Commander or not but I played a few games and those games were clearly pretty funny and when we won we hadn't too much dead marines...
And the thing with BEs: I think that everyone would understand such BEs and I've had a CO that just killed a Squad Medic only he said that the CO is a bad person. Then the CO said it would be mutiny... so that's blood thirsty. If a SO fires a OB to the wrong coordinates and kills several marines or even destroy the FOB... that wouldn't be blood thirsty if you make a BE.
But because I can't really say if you're a good or bad acting Commander I have to stay neutral but it's more a +1 then a -1.

[KingPhilipIII]

Hey man, as a addendum to my previous post, which might have come off a bit harsh. We're all new at some point. You joined pretty recently, a few months ago according to your forum age. It all comes with practice. I don't think your issues are inherent and something you can't fix(Some people have those.) but will be ironed out with age.

Just stick around a bit, keep at it. You'll make a good commander yet. I don't want my statements to sound discouraging.

[Ghostdex]

I generally agree with everyone else, -1 from me

[Loco52]

Hey guys you can close this if you wish, i've got enough feedback to change my playstyle and give it a 2nd shot next month. Thank you all for your help.

[Emeraldblood]

Resolved - Closed; You can apply again in 30 days.