Player Report - Cynthia
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Player Report - Cynthia
Your Byond Key: Chaznoodles
Your Character Name: Marcellus Mason
Accused Byond Key(if known): ?
Character Name: Cynthia.
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 16:20 CST.
What rule(s) were broken: 19, possibly others.
Description of the incident: We were informed there was a xenos in Research, due to a camera being cut and the shutters being down. Myself, Echard and the CE march over to deal with it. The XO, Mueller, also turns up. Myself and Mueller make it into Containment where Cynthia is standing. We promptly see the Queen gun it round the corner and out the door, shutters drop. Shutters raise, we get into the central area. The queen tries to hide in the south cupboard while we're shooting at it, Cynthia follows it in and closes the door. The synth repeatedly pushes myself and the XO out and keeps closing the door, trying to protect the Queen, resulting in the XO's death and me ending up with two broken bones due to Queen slashes. I eventually make it in and unload into the Queen, killing it. I then turn my 88 on the synth, who promptly punches me to death. Echard then kills the synth.
For a whitelisted role, siding with the xenos is top-tier dickery, as well as helping them to kill the current commanding officer. As well as that, killing another person directly as a synth is a pretty big break of character and roleplay, as far as I'm aware.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): N/A
How you would punish the accused: Removal of whitelist, timed ban.
Your Character Name: Marcellus Mason
Accused Byond Key(if known): ?
Character Name: Cynthia.
Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results): 16:20 CST.
What rule(s) were broken: 19, possibly others.
Description of the incident: We were informed there was a xenos in Research, due to a camera being cut and the shutters being down. Myself, Echard and the CE march over to deal with it. The XO, Mueller, also turns up. Myself and Mueller make it into Containment where Cynthia is standing. We promptly see the Queen gun it round the corner and out the door, shutters drop. Shutters raise, we get into the central area. The queen tries to hide in the south cupboard while we're shooting at it, Cynthia follows it in and closes the door. The synth repeatedly pushes myself and the XO out and keeps closing the door, trying to protect the Queen, resulting in the XO's death and me ending up with two broken bones due to Queen slashes. I eventually make it in and unload into the Queen, killing it. I then turn my 88 on the synth, who promptly punches me to death. Echard then kills the synth.
For a whitelisted role, siding with the xenos is top-tier dickery, as well as helping them to kill the current commanding officer. As well as that, killing another person directly as a synth is a pretty big break of character and roleplay, as far as I'm aware.
Evidence (screenshots, logs, etc): N/A
How you would punish the accused: Removal of whitelist, timed ban.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
XO Here. I understand that Cynthia was on orders. But that makes no sense for a Synth to just try and save a Xeno we were all tryna kill. It was coming to the end of the round where it would have become delay. Because at that point the Synth tried to keep the queen alive for enjoyment and RP which I am sorry to cut short, but that is selfish. There are players who have been dead for a while, no point in dragging it on.
She did punch you to death Marcellus which was dumb as fuck. Like she was in the way the whole time. There was no way she wasn't going to get shot, and than claim they did it self defense. So I think a warning would be good enough if there is any punishment at all.
(Side Note) I was told in OOC that Cynthia was ordered to keep it contained and secured. But when I walked into the containment cells I found it outside the cells, with Cynthia away from it watching it from across the room.
She did punch you to death Marcellus which was dumb as fuck. Like she was in the way the whole time. There was no way she wasn't going to get shot, and than claim they did it self defense. So I think a warning would be good enough if there is any punishment at all.
(Side Note) I was told in OOC that Cynthia was ordered to keep it contained and secured. But when I walked into the containment cells I found it outside the cells, with Cynthia away from it watching it from across the room.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
So I got the ahelps and since it was at the end of the round, I decided to tell Chaznoodle to put up a report.
I did send a Moderator PM to Cynthia asking for their side to see if any overt game rules were broken.
I will attempt to pull logs of the conversation later.
I did send a Moderator PM to Cynthia asking for their side to see if any overt game rules were broken.
I will attempt to pull logs of the conversation later.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
I was not aggressive at all during the crossfiring hence the word crossfire however I was aggressive when Marcellus placed 2 to 4 burst fire shots at me AFTER the queen had died. I even stood there for the first burst just to wait if he was shooting me or the dead body. In fact hardly any bullets had hit me at the time. Not to mention some of the marines in the action simply started to shoot me because of Low RPers who wanted revenge for not giving hugs and proceeded to rile up players as soon as I killed a crewmember who, I say again, was aggressive with the intent of killing me.Bancrosexd wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:36XO Here. I understand that Cynthia was on orders. But that makes no sense for a Synth to just try and save a Xeno we were all tryna kill. It was coming to the end of the round where it would have become delay. Because at that point the Synth tried to keep the queen alive for enjoyment and RP which I am sorry to cut short, but that is selfish. There are players who have been dead for a while, no point in dragging it on.
She did punch you to death Marcellus which was dumb as fuck. Like she was in the way the whole time. There was no way she wasn't going to get shot, and than claim they did it self defense. So I think a warning would be good enough if there is any punishment at all.
As for the round delay, I latejoined into the game and couldn't really tell what was happening as I didn't activate squad comms.
As for RP sense, I wanted to experiment with the drone at the time which I told the observing crew at the time to lockdown cell containment that way I could RP with a drone and be properly introduced by the xeno biology and mentality asides from the previously known larve saying "pee pee poo poo" The queen was non aggressive and was just simply trying to escape which is common for infants. Going abit meta here, but xenomorphs at least based on rules and lore say that whatever you infect and bursted you gain knowledge of said person I.E if you infect the CO, you could potentially learn the entirety of the USCM unlike that, it was coming from a monkey therefore you had a monkey-hive queen intelligence going on. I would also like to point out as a Synth character is that I do not finish the job for anyone in the USCM. If it were to be a civilian unaffiliated with the almayer, CLF, or UPP, I would have bashed their heads until they were killed, if it were to be a crewmember, I would put them into paincrit or atleast whenever I see them on the ground then leave them at whatever state they are in for the nearest medical person to come by
As for the gameplay aspect, all the marines decided to get infront of the queen when you could've easily shot the queen 1 tile to the left of the door with the door open.
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Cynthia the Synthetic
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
I unloaded into you because, by your actions, you'd killed the XO and got myself pretty broken too. I don't know what you expected, defending a hostile. If I saw correctly, you also tried to weld the closet shut too, only to be reversed because the CE saw it.Alky wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:48I was not aggressive at all during the crossfiring hence the word crossfire however I was aggressive when Marcellus placed 2 to 4 burst fire shots at me AFTER the queen had died. I even stood there for the first burst just to wait if he was shooting me or the dead body. In fact hardly any bullets had hit me at the time.
As for the round delay, I latejoined into the game and couldn't really tell what was happening as I didn't activate squad comms.
As for RP sense, I wanted to experiment with the drone at the time which I told the observing crew at the time to lockdown cell containment that way I could RP with a drone and be properly introduced by the xeno biology and mentality asides from the previously known larve saying "pee pee poo poo" The queen was non aggressive and was just simply trying to escape which is common for infants. Going abit meta here, but xenomorphs at least based on rules and lore say that whatever you infect and bursted you gain knowledge of said person I.E if you infect the CO, you could potentially learn the entirety of the USCM unlike that, it was coming from a monkey therefore you had a monkey-hive queen intelligence going on.
As for the gameplay aspect, all the marines decided to get infront of the queen when you could've easily shot the queen 1 tile to the left of the door with the door open.
We could've shot the queen 1 tile to the left, but that was difficult because you kept closing the door to protect it. I believe, upon seeing the XO fire upon the queen, you'd have rethunk your orders as he was the highest rank at the time, rather than sticking to what was probably a civilian doctor's orders. Instead, you decided to side with the Queen that promptly cut up two crew and by doing so put yourself on the firing line. You weren't justified, you saw the Queen attacking crew.
The queen was non aggressive
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
I was a witness to this event.
https://i.imgur.com/vHwtqxS.png
The Queen (drone at the time) was kept in the isolation cells to the right, synth was with it for a time.
A medical researcher, the XO and a PO came in pretty much as soon as the drone evolved into the Queen.
XO and PO both tried to shoot at the Queen immediately, medical researcher bolted back the way they came, Queen followed the researcher into the middle area marked yellow.
Medical researcher locked down the middle area leaving the Queen nowhere to go. Few MPs, RO, CE and another PO turned up on the left side, while the Synth, PO and XO were trapped on the right.
Queen weeded up and tried to open the lower door to find a way out. Lock down got lifted by the Medical Researcher and the Queen went down to Blue. Synth followed and went to red.
So at this point the XO and PO had tried to shoot at the Queen. Synth is now blocking the force from entering to kill the Queen, XO and PO take turns moving down into the doorway, shooting at the queen and getting slashed.
So the queen is now hostile and attacking the crew.
Synth makes no attempt to move either left into the locker or up to exit out the way.
XO eventually dies to the queen/acid from shooting.
Door closes, synth welds it shut. CE come and unwelds the door and opens it. Synth is now de-weeding with the welder.
Queen dies to PO. PO walks in, bursts the synth with his 88, whos now standing at blue. Synth punches the PO to death.
RO calls for death of synth. Synth, who died to RO I think. Unsure in the chaos.
Any questions I'll be happy to answer.
https://i.imgur.com/vHwtqxS.png
The Queen (drone at the time) was kept in the isolation cells to the right, synth was with it for a time.
A medical researcher, the XO and a PO came in pretty much as soon as the drone evolved into the Queen.
XO and PO both tried to shoot at the Queen immediately, medical researcher bolted back the way they came, Queen followed the researcher into the middle area marked yellow.
Medical researcher locked down the middle area leaving the Queen nowhere to go. Few MPs, RO, CE and another PO turned up on the left side, while the Synth, PO and XO were trapped on the right.
Queen weeded up and tried to open the lower door to find a way out. Lock down got lifted by the Medical Researcher and the Queen went down to Blue. Synth followed and went to red.
So at this point the XO and PO had tried to shoot at the Queen. Synth is now blocking the force from entering to kill the Queen, XO and PO take turns moving down into the doorway, shooting at the queen and getting slashed.
So the queen is now hostile and attacking the crew.
Synth makes no attempt to move either left into the locker or up to exit out the way.
XO eventually dies to the queen/acid from shooting.
Door closes, synth welds it shut. CE come and unwelds the door and opens it. Synth is now de-weeding with the welder.
Queen dies to PO. PO walks in, bursts the synth with his 88, whos now standing at blue. Synth punches the PO to death.
RO calls for death of synth. Synth, who died to RO I think. Unsure in the chaos.
Any questions I'll be happy to answer.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
Its not the aggression that has some of us upset. Like, I am not going to shoot a mateba from the spot you were describing, Its not that accurate so if I can get PB's off it would be better that way. You even told me that you wanted to preserve it and save it inside of critting it. If everyone in that room was trying to kill it, You know that would be delay so why even attempt it. It was like 14:30 at that point.Alky wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:48I was not aggressive at all during the crossfiring hence the word crossfire however I was aggressive when Marcellus placed 2 to 4 burst fire shots at me AFTER the queen had died. I even stood there for the first burst just to wait if he was shooting me or the dead body. In fact hardly any bullets had hit me at the time. Not to mention some of the marines in the action simply started to shoot me because of Low RPers who wanted revenge for not giving hugs and proceeded to rile up players as soon as I killed a crewmember who, I say again, was aggressive with the intent of killing me.
As for the round delay, I latejoined into the game and couldn't really tell what was happening as I didn't activate squad comms.
As for RP sense, I wanted to experiment with the drone at the time which I told the observing crew at the time to lockdown cell containment that way I could RP with a drone and be properly introduced by the xeno biology and mentality asides from the previously known larve saying "pee pee poo poo" The queen was non aggressive and was just simply trying to escape which is common for infants. Going abit meta here, but xenomorphs at least based on rules and lore say that whatever you infect and bursted you gain knowledge of said person I.E if you infect the CO, you could potentially learn the entirety of the USCM unlike that, it was coming from a monkey therefore you had a monkey-hive queen intelligence going on.
As for the gameplay aspect, all the marines decided to get infront of the queen when you could've easily shot the queen 1 tile to the left of the door with the door open.
You also welded the door to try and stop us from killing it, How you played was antagonistic in a way where it was more passive.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
To be honest, even if you did authorise the order to keep it contained and secured, I wasn't paying attention to it as I am usually focused on the game than text.Bancrosexd wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:36XO Here. I understand that Cynthia was on orders. But that makes no sense for a Synth to just try and save a Xeno we were all tryna kill. It was coming to the end of the round where it would have become delay. Because at that point the Synth tried to keep the queen alive for enjoyment and RP which I am sorry to cut short, but that is selfish. There are players who have been dead for a while, no point in dragging it on.
She did punch you to death Marcellus which was dumb as fuck. Like she was in the way the whole time. There was no way she wasn't going to get shot, and than claim they did it self defense. So I think a warning would be good enough if there is any punishment at all.
(Side Note) I was told in OOC that Cynthia was ordered to keep it contained and secured. But when I walked into the containment cells I found it outside the cells, with Cynthia away from it watching it from across the room.
According to the sidenote though, it was outside containment so that I understand xeno biology and had told the CMO, CL, and I would assume a random civilian to leave to do this very thing. In spite of things, it seemed that the CMO and the others forgotten that I was releasing the subject for further testings and allowed it to breach containment. While this is selfish to others, I was unaware how angsty a lot of marines are, as I usually spend most of my time alive or enjoying the fact that I am dead. To that fact, I'm sorry for those who were affected by the duration of the round.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
When I was welding, I actually tried to stop welding, whenever I try to stop actions, I tend to just move around than drop or turn off the item since engineers have the rough life of losing materials or being pushed by marines during building. I moved thinking I stopped the action and proceeded to try to leave until I noticed the door was unpaneled and I was unable to leave or crowbar my way out because you had an engineer messing with the door.Bancrosexd wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 17:11Its not the aggression that has some of us upset. Like, I am not going to shoot a mateba from the spot you were describing, Its not that accurate so if I can get PB's off it would be better that way. You even told me that you wanted to preserve it and save it inside of critting it. If everyone in that room was trying to kill it, You know that would be delay so why even attempt it. It was like 14:30 at that point.
You also welded the door to try and stop us from killing it, How you played was antagonistic in a way where it was more passive.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
And I defended myself and continually got bombed by the other players for defending myself. For the welding, look at bancrosses statement. XO got killed because it was a 1 tile door with a 2 tile room. Even if I were to leave the room the room, I couldn't because you guys were blocking me from moving out.Chaznoodles wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:56I unloaded into you because, by your actions, you'd killed the XO and got myself pretty broken too. I don't know what you expected, defending a hostile. If I saw correctly, you also tried to weld the closet shut too, only to be reversed because the CE saw it.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
It was best way to stay alive as I found you guys to be killing the queen easier and safer from range even without the close up PB shots.Huntze wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:59I was a witness to this event.
https://i.imgur.com/vHwtqxS.png
Synth makes no attempt to move either left into the locker or up to exit out the way.
XO eventually dies to the queen/acid from shooting.
Door closes, synth welds it shut. CE come and unwelds the door and opens it. Synth is now de-weeding with the welder.
Queen dies to PO. PO walks in, bursts the synth with his 88, whos now standing at blue. Synth punches the PO to death.
RO calls for death of synth. Synth, who died to RO I think. Unsure in the chaos.
Any questions I'll be happy to answer.
XO does not die from acid, if he died, I would've died soon as well. He dies only from attempting to PB.
Welding was a mistake, I use welders as weapons and it's a very fast at weed clearing. Read Bancrosses reply for the welding moment.
I was de-weeding so that it wouldn't again harm others and bring it back into the cell.
PO attempts to kill me, preservation states that I should fight back, I did, my policy is to kill those who are not USCM and paincrit to whatever status the USCM with the intent to kill is.
RO calls for death because he wanted hugs from me, so the moment he saw the PO go on the ground which I would remind he doesn't have the ability to use medhuds, he riles people to kill me because he didn't get hugs from me, RO doesn't die and the RO said in OOC chat that I wouldn't have said to kill you if you only gave me hugs.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
This is the main problem here. As a synth, you do have self preservation programming, but at most it should've been "disarm the XO and run away" rather than "beat the man to pain crit even though he's already wounded." Doing anything but the bare minimum damage to protect yourself is assault/murder, which is obviously against synth programming.Alky wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 16:48...however I was aggressive when Marcellus placed 2 to 4 burst fire shots at me AFTER the queen had died. I even stood there for the first burst just to wait if he was shooting me or the dead body. In fact hardly any bullets had hit me at the time. Not to mention some of the marines in the action simply started to shoot me because of Low RPers who wanted revenge for not giving hugs and proceeded to rile up players as soon as I killed a crewmember who, I say again, was aggressive with the intent of killing me...
Not to mention, according to these events, you broke marine law by preventing the XO and the CO from attacking the queen, as going against them would be insubordination. Your actions also led to the wounding and death of marines, which is not ok whatsoever as a synth.
You had no orders overriding marine to law to save the queen, and you tried to supersede the XO/CO as synth, which is making me really doubt your grasp of the role.
Some guy.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
I was not saving the queen at all, while yes preserving is a form of saving/protecting, I knew that the queen is priority. And while I yes, I was infront of the queen, that doesn't mean I was saving the queen in any case, I am only stating that it was non-aggressive and that it can still be detained into a cell when placed back.driecg36 wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 18:00This is the main problem here. As a synth, you do have self preservation programming, but at most it should've been "disarm the XO and run away" rather than "beat the man to pain crit even though he's already wounded." Doing anything but the bare minimum damage to protect yourself is assault/murder, which is obviously against synth programming.
Not to mention, according to these events, you broke marine law by preventing the XO and the CO from attacking the queen, as going against them would be insubordination. Your actions also led to the wounding and death of marines, which is not ok whatsoever as a synth.
You had no orders overriding marine to law to save the queen, and you tried to supersede the XO/CO as synth, which is making me really doubt your grasp of the role.
Not to mention that I could have easily left the room despite being shot by the almayer crew but couldn't not due to the constant group who attempted to PB the queen. My actions are not insubordinate as order previously stated by XO was to contain it, containment was breached by the XO when the event happened, but the queen obviously wanted to run.
Also the combat restriction said that I would subdue the threat; if it upholds to marine law. While the state of Marcellus was critical, I stopped the moment he hit the ground. Along with the synthetic programming saying nothing about doing the minimum damage based from the current linked Synthetic Programming page: viewtopic.php?f=57&p=156239#p156239. The point to IC issues regarding Marine Law on Assault/Murder It's up to discussion as this is a PO purposefully committing a murder of a Synthetic which Marine Law includes under therefore if I was to be murder as a Synthetic, I can be included to an investigation and such. Even if I left him in hardcrit, I would have not stopped a medical officer from treating him. In fact, it's self-defense as I am included under marine law.
If I was to protect the queen, I wouldn't have de-weeded her position and would have simply continued to weld the door since I would be faster at welding than the person who was attempting to hack the door open, I would have also started to disarm or incapacitate the marines shooting as that would have been tougher to deal with not one but two "Hostile" entities
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
"All USCM Synthetics are built with a 100% understanding and adherence to Marine Law. They are unable to break Marine Law."
Since we're delving into Synthetic Programming here, isn't deliberately protecting a giant beastie whose race has just beaned half the marine complement of the vessel, resulting in the death of the XO and grievous wounding of a pilot, breaking marine law in regards to :
1. Unathorised modification of government property, in knowingly allowing the creature to cut the Containment camera under your watch,
2. Neglect of duty, in failing to properly contain the creature and allowing it to roam free outside of the Containment cells without permission,
3. Manslaughter, in disallowing the XO from killing the creature, resulting in his death from it's claws as you refused to allow a clear shot,
4. Murder, in punching a pilot to critical from which he died shortly after,
5. Sedition, in acting in collaboration with the enemies of the USCM by defending it from the marines aboard.
You brought this on yourself yo
Since we're delving into Synthetic Programming here, isn't deliberately protecting a giant beastie whose race has just beaned half the marine complement of the vessel, resulting in the death of the XO and grievous wounding of a pilot, breaking marine law in regards to :
1. Unathorised modification of government property, in knowingly allowing the creature to cut the Containment camera under your watch,
2. Neglect of duty, in failing to properly contain the creature and allowing it to roam free outside of the Containment cells without permission,
3. Manslaughter, in disallowing the XO from killing the creature, resulting in his death from it's claws as you refused to allow a clear shot,
4. Murder, in punching a pilot to critical from which he died shortly after,
5. Sedition, in acting in collaboration with the enemies of the USCM by defending it from the marines aboard.
You brought this on yourself yo
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
1. I was the one who reported the issue of the cameras going out in containment, I also told the CMO and the crew in there to leave. MP's never responded, in fact, a CT responded to that issue.Chaznoodles wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 20:32"All USCM Synthetics are built with a 100% understanding and adherence to Marine Law. They are unable to break Marine Law."
Since we're delving into Synthetic Programming here, isn't deliberately protecting a giant beastie whose race has just beaned half the marine complement of the vessel, resulting in the death of the XO and grievous wounding of a pilot, breaking marine law in regards to :
1. Unathorised modification of government property, in knowingly allowing the creature to cut the Containment camera under your watch,
2. Neglect of duty, in failing to properly contain the creature and allowing it to roam free outside of the Containment cells without permission,
3. Manslaughter, in disallowing the XO from killing the creature, resulting in his death from it's claws as you refused to allow a clear shot,
4. Murder, in punching a pilot to critical from which he died shortly after,
5. Sedition, in acting in collaboration with the enemies of the USCM by defending it from the marines aboard.
You brought this on yourself yo
2. Neglect of Duty would have fallen upon the XO, as I was unaware of the XO and PO moving in research to see the commotions. It was contained as I previously told the CMO to lockdown the cell block. I also like to point out on why a PO is not at his ship and with the XO, I am aware that ICly PO is not fun, but it's fascinating to find a PO doing it.
3. More shots and damage was doing more damage from range as it was trapped, XO and knowing the XO would always move close up for a PB.
4. Murder, I am included in this, if you killed me, you would have been accused of murder, I am only doing self-defense and self-preservating myself.
5. I was not defending it, as all situation to not defend it was blocked by several marines attempting to PB it.
Please continue.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
Going to ask that we do not continue this arguement/discussion in here, this isn't the place.
If you don't have anything to add to the report please refrain from posting until the admins can get around to looking into this.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
So just to add the PM I sent to Alky after chaznoodle sent an ahelp and a bunch of people were salting in deadchat over the situation. At the time it was me and MIzari who was on and they were playing. No other mods or admins on at the time. I told chaz that he should make a player report, because I saw this more as a synth guideline violation over a gross violation of the server rules.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
He actually did die. He had to be defibbed. Which almost didn't happen, because the blast shutters to the Research wing went down right after the synth exited. I do not know who triggered them, but it could easily have been the synth, and in that case the synth was responsible for locking 5 or so wounded men and 2 men who required defibbing(one of whom because the synth had killed him) in a small room where they could not receive medical attention. I think it's worth looking at who triggered those doors.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
Now that wasn't even called for, while I am aware of the situation I was in and I did walk into the direction of where you can lockdown the door, I did not press it as I saw no reason to. If anything this is either false or another person which only the CMO, me, researchers, CO, and the XO can access the lockdown, I am not aware if the CMP or CL having lockdown, but regardless, if the doors were lockdown, it was not me. I only pressed the button once in the entire game and that was when I trapped myself in the antechamber to the containment cell.Dauntasa wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 00:17He actually did die. He had to be defibbed. Which almost didn't happen, because the blast shutters to the Research wing went down right after the synth exited. I do not know who triggered them, but it could easily have been the synth, and in that case the synth was responsible for locking 5 or so wounded men and 2 men who required defibbing(one of whom because the synth had killed him) in a small room where they could not receive medical attention. I think it's worth looking at who triggered those doors.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
It's not false, the doors were locked down. I did not see you, personally, do it, as I said, but you were certainly in a position where you could have.Alky wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 00:54Now that wasn't even called for, while I am aware of the situation I was in and I did walk into the direction of where you can lockdown the door, I did not press it as I saw no reason to. If anything this is either false or another person which only the CMO, me, researchers, CO, and the XO can access the lockdown, I am not aware if the CMP or CL having lockdown, but regardless, if the doors were lockdown, it was not me. I only pressed the button once in the entire game and that was when I trapped myself in the antechamber to the containment cell.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
I late joined and was in the round for about 20 minutes for the record. But I already had the entire situation under control. Marines won ground side after an hour and a half of killing. Wihtin 5 minutes I was already moving marines to spots to finish off the final xenos, Only 5ish minutes to figure that out. So don't try and deflect neglect of duty onto me, because I came as soon as I figured out you had a Xeno in containment.Alky wrote: ↑18 Aug 2018, 20:381. I was the one who reported the issue of the cameras going out in containment, I also told the CMO and the crew in there to leave. MP's never responded, in fact, a CT responded to that issue.
2. Neglect of Duty would have fallen upon the XO, as I was unaware of the XO and PO moving in research to see the commotions. It was contained as I previously told the CMO to lockdown the cell block. I also like to point out on why a PO is not at his ship and with the XO, I am aware that ICly PO is not fun, but it's fascinating to find a PO doing it.
3. More shots and damage was doing more damage from range as it was trapped, XO and knowing the XO would always move close up for a PB.
4. Murder, I am included in this, if you killed me, you would have been accused of murder, I am only doing self-defense and self-preservating myself.
5. I was not defending it, as all situation to not defend it was blocked by several marines attempting to PB it.
Please continue.
In everyone else's eyes you were committing Sedition. And not once did you try to move yourself into the locker to your left to get out of the way, and the closing of the door constantly and even welding it goes on to prove it. You may say it was an accident, but what else would you do with a welder once you turned it on, Because you didn't hit the queen with it, only the weeds afterwards. It confuses me even more if you moved the queen onto weeds again.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
That's the point, you are the XO, if I were to be a SO, XO, or CO I would have more info on the battle, but I was not. From my POV, being anyone asides from Command Staff, you are really uncaring of the situation groundside and time passes by until it does happen. I also like to point out how the medical staff was bare-bones little with a medical post on the FOB from my memory of this, I found that situation abit desperate considering how bad it would be for marines to get almost all of medical staff to be deployed.Bancrosexd wrote: ↑19 Aug 2018, 02:34I late joined and was in the round for about 20 minutes for the record. But I already had the entire situation under control. Marines won ground side after an hour and a half of killing. Wihtin 5 minutes I was already moving marines to spots to finish off the final xenos, Only 5ish minutes to figure that out. So don't try and deflect neglect of duty onto me, because I came as soon as I figured out you had a Xeno in containment.
In everyone else's eyes you were committing Sedition. And not once did you try to move yourself into the locker to your left to get out of the way, and the closing of the door constantly and even welding it goes on to prove it. You may say it was an accident, but what else would you do with a welder once you turned it on, Because you didn't hit the queen with it, only the weeds afterwards. It confuses me even more if you moved the queen onto weeds again.
As for dragging and the small room situation, I was primarily focused on marines how they were shooting and such, and as you previously mention or atleast others mention, the spot I mention was not into thought, which I to have ignored. I did not open the locker simply because I did not see it. As for the deweeding, I was moving the queen to containment, but marines blocked me from moving in their with doors being closed, so I attempted to move back into the room as you can't deweed the floor tile under the huge queen tile.
I was not usurping command, as I said before, if I was helping the queen, I would have continued welding the door because I can be faster at the welding than an engineer opening the door via hack, I would have paneled the door, I would have not de-weeded her placement and left her there alone, I would have attempted to kill any of you for entering PB range. If you had so little time to learn about the strategical placements of the marines then you should have no problem of shooting the queen from range.
The point of this report is to report me on my acts and how I did not commit them, which is why sedition, murder, assault, rule 19 are in consideration. I'm suppose to say I did not commit it while everyone else either agrees or disagrees, so that we don't transpire into a cohesive argument. That's why I'm explaining my reasons to my actions and arguing so that people will understand the predicament.
(Sidenote) I also use the blowtorch excessively as a self defense weapon and de-weeder because it gives the capability of burning and can de-weed faster than a machete which is why I use a blowtorch, I have done this as synthetic multiple times in the past. It's my go-to if I don't have access to the telescopic baton or machete.
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Re: Player Report - Cynthia
First off, an interesting question regarding Synths. Killing one wouldn't be considered Murder, as Synths are robotic and not "alive". That said, people can't just kill Synths just because it's not murdering, so don't try it.
Currently, killing synths IS murder as per Marine law. This may change in the future.
Onto the report, Synths shouldn't be murdering people to protect a Xeno. If they want to RP with the Xeno or even try to keep some safe, this is fine, but they can't go against the orders of someone like the XO and they 100% shouldn't be murdering them, self-defense or not. If they want that Xeno dead, you lack the self-will to overthrow them. Synths can get events to be antag but they can't just decide to turn against the USCM.
Player will receive a two-week suspension from Synth. While a Synth rule break, we're not running "One strike and you're out" so as long as Alky has no future problems, they will remain on the whitelist.
Resolved - Player will be suspended from Synth until Sept 17, 2018.
Currently, killing synths IS murder as per Marine law. This may change in the future.
Onto the report, Synths shouldn't be murdering people to protect a Xeno. If they want to RP with the Xeno or even try to keep some safe, this is fine, but they can't go against the orders of someone like the XO and they 100% shouldn't be murdering them, self-defense or not. If they want that Xeno dead, you lack the self-will to overthrow them. Synths can get events to be antag but they can't just decide to turn against the USCM.
Player will receive a two-week suspension from Synth. While a Synth rule break, we're not running "One strike and you're out" so as long as Alky has no future problems, they will remain on the whitelist.
Resolved - Player will be suspended from Synth until Sept 17, 2018.
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