Runner 932 - MaximusRex - Rule 2

[Trevoriousdafox]

Your Byond Key:

Trevoriousdafox

Your Character Name:

Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver

Accused Byond Key(if known):

MaximusRex

Character Name:

Runner 932

Approximate time and date of the incident (Central US Time for fastest results):

5:00 AM

What rule(s) were broken:

2- Don’t be a dick - Harassment, racism, bigotry, homophobia, exploiting bugs, cheating, hacking, and just plain being an asshole.

3- No griefing - Griefing is the intent of one player wanting to cause grief or annoyance to other players or to the server without any roleplay reason.

Description of the incident:

I was by the Normandy with a doctor trying to launch the Drop ship. A Drone and Runner came to attack us. They drug us apart and killed the doc on the spot.
I was trying to get up and resist but Runner 932 kept tackle spamming me and draging me to the tank elevator to drop me down. Okay that's fine kinda a dick move but nothing was wrong with it.
Then I see him drop down and expect him to finish me off.... but this is where is gets pretty Griefish. He ate me, then brought me up again and pushed me down again, and again. Till I finally did die from the falls.

Now I want to be clear, I DO UNDERSTAND THE POINT OF THE GAME IS TO KILL THE OTHER TEAM. I'm not mad I died or that he killed me. I'm upset that he went to such a extent to humiliate me.
He could have just slashed me, or dropped me and slashed me. The extent he went to do this makes me feel like he was either meta grudging me or just griefing.

And I don't see any real roleplay scenario where a actual xeno from lore would drop a human down a elevator multiple times to kill it. It would rip a human apart on sight or capture it to infect it.
I realize that some might not agree with what I'm saying, but behavior like this can drive players away. And it definitely seems like pretty low roleplay to me.

Evidence (screenshots, logs, ect)

Should be plenty of logs

How you would punish the accused:

A warning not to act like that anymore. Maybe a note so that if they do try it again, or something similar to other players it'll be logged.

[Sleepy Retard]

This is definitely not griefing or being a shithead/asshole. If anything, this is power gaming or some such.

I did hear of the situation and see him admit that he did this, so I'll go grab him whenever he is available and have him post his piece.

[Trevoriousdafox]

Yeah, I did talk with him that next round, and oh boy the toxicity I got from some people.

Any who I agree that it wasn't him meta grudging me or trying to grief outright.
But it still is very distasteful imo to do to anyone.

I would be fine with the report being withdrawn but I really think that something needs to be done to stop people from meming other players like this.
It might be funny to watch and do, but its not fun or funny to have it happen to you.

[Clutch]

Yeah, I did talk with him that next round, and oh boy the toxicity I got from some people.

Any who I agree that it wasn't him meta grudging me or trying to grief outright.
But it still is very distasteful imo to do to anyone.

I would be fine with the report being withdrawn but I really think that something needs to be done to stop people from meming other players like this.
It might be funny to watch and do, but its not fun or funny to have it happen to you.

I was there spectating you and the runner during the whole affair, and the DC rants afterwards.

People disagreeing with you is not toxicity it's called a personal opinion, you also went to length to call me and other people metabuddies with Jackson due to us agreeing with him that you reporting him was stupid.

[JacksonDee]

So, I was wondering if you were going to actually post this report. Once the round was over last night, I saw you were asking for my identity, so I talked and gave you my Ckey. I'll start this off by saying yes: It was me, in the hangar, with the tank elevator. I am guilty of the crime of murder, Clue style.

But here's the thing: I'm a XENOMORPH. A bioweapon created soley to kill, protect, and assimilate for the the hive. It's quite literally my job to kill people as a runner, and often in the most gruesome ways possible. When I found you and the doctor in the Normandy, I had an entire buffet of options to choose. Do I pick you off slowly, one slash at a time? Do I rush in, decapitating you both with my highly lethal claws? Maybe I could break your skull and ribs, watching you slowly bleed out on the ground and gasp as your life slips away. Hey, if there was fire around, I could drag you into it to roast you alive! There was a WARRIOR nearby, I could have asked him to tear your limbs off! Or I could call in the OTHER castes, all with their unique and absolutely gruesome ways to kill you. Because that's our purpose, Xenomorphs kill. Instead, I decided to use the almighty power of gravity, and your unfortunate luck of being caught right next to a giant pit. ALSO, just for the record, the queen was actually telling us to commit "Warcrimes" against the marines, so I believe what I did was in line with her will.

I can assure you 100% that to me, you were just another marine that I needed to eliminate for the hive. I don't meta target as a Xenomorph. I don't hold grudges, both IC and OOC, that's just not who I am or who my characters. I play this game to have fun, and one of the most fun things for me is variety. I could have just killed you in the same boring way of tackle slash slash slash, but I decided to use some creativity for my murderous goal. I saw that you were pretty upset in deadchat, both after the round in question and the next. If dying in CM causes that much distress for you, I might consider taking a break. It's a game after all, it's all about having fun.

[Kineem]

What rule(s) were broken:

2- Don’t be a dick - Harassment, racism, bigotry, homophobia, exploiting bugs, cheating, hacking, and just plain being an asshole.

3- No griefing - Griefing is the intent of one player wanting to cause grief or annoyance to other players or to the server without any roleplay reason.

...He could have just slashed me, or dropped me and slashed me. The extent he went to do this makes me feel like he was either meta grudging me or just griefing.

As a character witness, I can confirm there wasn't any sort of metagrudging on Rex's part. Aside from the fact that Rex is a laidback guy both ICly and OOCly and you wouldn't really expect metagrudging or similar douchebaggery from him, I've personally spectated him as a xeno once before where he did the same thing to you but onto other players. He teamed up with a Defender and dragged any marine he could capture near the end of the round all the way over to the tank elevator to execute them, which was hilariously easy for him to do given that he was an Ancient Spitter by that point. He wasn't singling out players who were well known, and if they didn't die from the first drop he'd just drag them back for a second drop. None of the players he killed in that manner found it particularly humiliating if my memory serves correctly.

He's done it before without the intent to humiliate and he didn't care who he did it to then, so I really doubt he randomly decided to single you out, moreso if the Queen actually did say to commit warcrimes against the marines as Rex claims. This is no more griefing than slashing you to death where he found you, no more humiliating than being neurospat at perfect health and dragged far into the hive, and no more powergaming than being dragged into blue fire by a Ravager.

[Trevoriousdafox]

I was there spectating you and the runner during the whole affair, and the DC rants afterwards.

People disagreeing with you is not toxicity it's called a personal opinion, you also went to length to call me and other people metabuddies with Jackson due to us agreeing with him that you reporting him was stupid.

That's cute this is not adding to the report for one. So its a worthless reply.

Secondly you were the main one being Toxic like a ass. I'm not mad you talked shit to me I'm used to shit talk. what bothers me is, you had and HAVE nothing constructive to say or add.
You kept telling me to go to a 'happy place' what ever that means. Called me a retard many times and told me to stop playing ECT.

That's not disagreeing that's being just being a dick Clutch. And personally I don't care who agrees with what I am saying or not.
All I ask is if you wanna talk to me about it don't go all fucking retarded and turn into pure cancer. The only things you could say to me was

A) I was retarded
B) Stop crying noob
And C) Cry Harder

That screams loads to me about your character Clutch
Also I request you remove that post since it adds nothing to my report
Edit:Fixed Typos

[Trevoriousdafox]

So, I was wondering if you were going to actually post this report. Once the round was over last night, I saw you were asking for my identity, so I talked and gave you my Ckey. I'll start this off by saying yes: It was me, in the hangar, with the tank elevator. I am guilty of the crime of murder, Clue style.

But here's the thing: I'm a XENOMORPH. A bioweapon created soley to kill, protect, and assimilate for the the hive. It's quite literally my job to kill people as a runner, and often in the most gruesome ways possible. When I found you and the doctor in the Normandy, I had an entire buffet of options to choose. Do I pick you off slowly, one slash at a time? Do I rush in, decapitating you both with my highly lethal claws? Maybe I could break your skull and ribs, watching you slowly bleed out on the ground and gasp as your life slips away. Hey, if there was fire around, I could drag you into it to roast you alive! There was a WARRIOR nearby, I could have asked him to tear your limbs off! Or I could call in the OTHER castes, all with their unique and absolutely gruesome ways to kill you. Because that's our purpose, Xenomorphs kill. Instead, I decided to use the almighty power of gravity, and your unfortunate luck of being caught right next to a giant pit. ALSO, just for the record, the queen was actually telling us to commit "Warcrimes" against the marines, so I believe what I did was in line with her will.

I can assure you 100% that to me, you were just another marine that I needed to eliminate for the hive. I don't meta target as a Xenomorph. I don't hold grudges, both IC and OOC, that's just not who I am or who my characters. I play this game to have fun, and one of the most fun things for me is variety. I could have just killed you in the same boring way of tackle slash slash slash, but I decided to use some creativity for my murderous goal. I saw that you were pretty upset in deadchat, both after the round in question and the next. If dying in CM causes that much distress for you, I might consider taking a break. It's a game after all, it's all about having fun.

I'm just going to say this for the last time.
I get you are a xeno, I get the point of the game is to kill or be killed RP is a side thing.
Now what I don't get and what bothers me is how you
A) Abused a glitch that xenos are immune to fall damage to meme me over and over
B) You have done it to other and don't seem to care at all
C) I'm sorry to say I just can't see a xeno from lore doing anything remotely like this, it's literally just for the meme and it's pretty shitty behavior once again imo.

[Trevoriousdafox]

As a character witness, I can confirm there wasn't any sort of metagrudging on Rex's part. Aside from the fact that Rex is a laidback guy both ICly and OOCly and you wouldn't really expect metagrudging or similar douchebaggery from him, I've personally spectated him as a xeno once before where he did the same thing to you but onto other players. He teamed up with a Defender and dragged any marine he could capture near the end of the round all the way over to the tank elevator to execute them, which was hilariously easy for him to do given that he was an Ancient Spitter by that point. He wasn't singling out players who were well known, and if they didn't die from the first drop he'd just drag them back for a second drop. None of the players he killed in that manner found it particularly humiliating if my memory serves correctly.

He's done it before without the intent to humiliate and he didn't care who he did it to then, so I really doubt he randomly decided to single you out, moreso if the Queen actually did say to commit warcrimes against the marines as Rex claims. This is no more griefing than slashing you to death where he found you, no more humiliating than being neurospat at perfect health and dragged far into the hive, and no more powergaming than being dragged into blue fire by a Ravager.

Okay well even so the other issue still stands that this is borderline power gaming.
Xenos should be stunned at least from the fall.

And the fact they he and you admit he's done this SEVERAL times to multiple people really kinda urks me but meh it's out of my hands.

It really shouldn't be a thing, also this is nothing like blue flames you can AVOID blue flames easy and put yourself out.
Getting tackle spammed and dropped down a elevator has NO counters.

[Frans_Feiffer]

Alright, apologies since it’s been 5 days since this was posted, however I went through and found the notes for this situation while logdiving. I’ll copy them into here in just a sec, but currently i’m at school, so give me roughly an hour to do so please.

[Frans_Feiffer]

Alright, apologies for taking forever. Like I said, I found the spot in logs where this occurred, but not home so doing this on my phone. Turns out, if you tab out for too long, it refreshes and I lost the work I started. Anyways, here’s what I got:

After the matter in dchat.

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[04:59:06]OOC: Ellie 'Coffee' Weaver/Trevoriousdafox : The Elder Runner (932) I'm going to make a player report on you for griefing me
[04:59:32]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : I'm player reporting you bud
[04:59:47]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : Who?
[04:59:50]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : you
[04:59:57]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : For throwing you down the well?
[05:00:02]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : I mean, shit.
[05:00:11]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : you threw we down a elevator for no reason like three times
[05:00:15]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : thes griefing
[05:00:18]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : Aye, it killed you good.
[05:00:20]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : So a beno killed you
[05:00:23]SAY: Ghost/Mvp777 : and its griffin?
[05:00:28]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : ^^
[05:00:37]SAY: Ghost/MaximusRex : I don't know if you realize this, but killing marines is kinda the point.
[05:00:37]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : you coulda slashed me and it would be chill but you gotta play like a dick
[05:00:48]SAY: Ghost/Trevoriousdafox : so ya I'm reporting you
Mapdaemon initiates restart, thus ending the conversation in dchat.

After the round in OOC before gamestart:

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[05:01:41]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : I don't care what I missed behavior like that brings a bad taste to the game
[05:01:47]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : and drives player away
[05:01:57]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : players*
[05:02:08]OOC: MaximusRex/MaximusRex : Trevor, are you Ellie?
[05:02:18]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : yes
[05:02:41]OOC: MaximusRex/MaximusRex : I killed Trevor last round by throwing them down the tank elevator while I was a runner.
[05:02:52]OOC: MaximusRex/MaximusRex : If you really want to make a player report for that, by all means go ahead.
[05:02:58]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : now I got the ckey nice
[05:03:03]OOC: Trevoriousdafox/Trevoriousdafox : I'm still reporting you
[05:03:32]OOC: MaximusRex/MaximusRex : Aye, I talked on purpose, I don't know if any admins gave you my key.
Some banter between Ellie and another person unrelated to this event occurs, then round starts.

That’s all the notes. If you would like me to dig some more and scrounge up anything else related to this, please ask and i’ll do it the second I can.

[Imperator_Titan]

Not exactly powergaming to use the elevator to kill people, if anything, it'll be fixed at a dev level. If you were in the position to be tacklespammed and dropped down an elevator repeatedly, you'd also be in the position to just be tacklespammed and slashed to death, there's no difference. As for him "being a dick", he wasn't insulting you in any way and kept his cool about it. I see no reason to punish him here.

Resolved - No action will be taken.