Lepus' Ban Appeal

[Helo]

Your Byond ID:Lepus

Character Name:Claudius Garneys

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Timed Ban

Admin who banned you (if known): Loco52

Total Ban Duration: 1440 minutes

Remaining Duration: 1440 minutes (as the time Im making this)

What other servers do you play on? Just CM

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones? Only CM

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned): Decapped a doctor for sedating him twice, improper escalation

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable):

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): Now how this whole mess started when I was playing as MT. I was cleaning around and I walked into the kitchen and I saw Mochi literally making a mess of the kitchen (burned mess everywhere blood seeping from the floor, trash everywhere) so I try to go clean it, he screams "OUT" and "SHOO" then I say "Im cleaning this nasty shit up" and so I start picking up the gunk and he punches me right in the chest, so naturally I try to punch him back, when he picks up his revolver so I quickly pick up a knife and I start slashing. Then after that mess me and Mochi calm down for around 3 minutes, and Keagan Richter starts throwing beakers at me. I realize he's throwing them and I say "You throw that one more time and I will hit you with my crowbar" or something along those lines, he waits 3 seconds and he chucks ANOTHER beaker at me. So naturally I chase him down with my crowbar and I hit him in the gob with it and he pulls out an auto-injector, knocks me unconcious, hits my chest with my crowbar, then drags my body near the medbay and threatens to OD me. So a medical researcher SEES that Im knocked on the floor so I scream for help so he hyposprays the doctor and they drag me up to research and they give me a anti-toxin or some shit so I wake up, so I naturally I rush down to Keagan and I say "HEY YOU PRICK IM GONNA SHOOT YOU FOR THAT" because you know HE FUCKIN THREW BEAKERS AT ME, HIT ME IN THE CHEST WITH A CROWBAR, THEN THREATENED TO OD ME! So Im standing outside his surgery room when he rushes out and drugs me AGAIN and this time he says he's gonna OD me AGAIN! So I say Im literally going to kill you so I shot him in his greasy face for throwing three beakers at me (which I responded with hitting him with my crowbar) then he drugs me, smashes my chest in with my own crowbar, then says he's going to OD me. So I get back up rush down to confront him again and he drugs me a second time and threatens to OD me AGAIN! Which if yall dont think thats valid enough reason to kill someone for threatening to kill you.

Heres an imgur of him saying he's going to overdose me (This was the second time I couldnt get the previous logs from when were first started fighting because the chat scrolled too far up but if an admin can get it please do)

[Adralimas]

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That aside, Griefing someone because they griefed you is a good way to get banned.

Don't grief back, Ahelp and let us deal with it.

I recommend you sit on this ban and maybe submit a player report later if you want any action taken against the dude who did this to you.

[Ordukai]

As Adralimas said, this won't likely get resolved before the ban itself expires, which is one of the reasons why we have the 24 hour rule.

While it won't be resolved, I'd still like to address what happened here. Note that I haven't looked at the logs, and am simply going off of what you said in your explanation.

• I don't understand how Mochi was a part of the ban. He enters the story at the start, and disappears later. The ban is for decapping the doctor, not Mochi?
• For reference, throwing 3 large beakers at an unarmored human is less than 1/4th the damage from a single punch. Perhaps I'm using the wrong beakers, or not throwing them right? Or it was just the fact that he taunted you with them?
• I also don't understand how you heard him threaten you or called for help while still knocked out on the floor. You only woke up after getting anti-toxin in research.
• The first time I read it, it wasn't clear where you started summarizing what you said. I thought he drugged you a third time after you shot him in his greasy face, but it seems that was just the start of a very long recap.
• From what you said: He threw three beakers at you, hit you with a crowbar (after you crowbar'd him), threatened to OD you, and threatened to OD you again (after you ran after him and threatened to shoot him). In response to this, you decapitated him.

so I naturally I rush down to Keagan and I say "HEY YOU PRICK IM GONNA SHOOT YOU FOR THAT" because you know HE FUCKIN THREW BEAKERS AT ME, HIT ME IN THE CHEST WITH A CROWBAR, THEN THREATENED TO OD ME!

You were conscious and out of Keagan's grasp. You could have left medbay and/or called the MPs to report it. I don't know how you expected him to react when a marine stands outside his surgery room and announces that they're gonna shoot him. He knocked you unconscious and threatened you with an OD, but apparently never actually overdosed you? You say you felt healthy enough to threaten him and shoot him, and you forgot to mention that you did more than just "shoot him in the face", you shot him until he was decapitated.

It really sounds like your issue was less with a threat to your life and more a threat to your pride, or a desire for revenge. If you're actually concerned that someone will kill you, or you want them brought to justice, you can just call the Military Police for help instead of chasing after them and forcing a confrontation via death threats. If you think it's an OOC issue, like Adralimas said, you can ahelp it.

If you still think he griefed you and want to make a player report for a proper investigation, viewforum.php?f=63 is the place for it. Waiting for tomorrow and thinking it over might help. Also, it's always harder to read walls of text, so try spacing out your thoughts a bit with the enter key.

[Helo]

As Adralimas said, this won't likely get resolved before the ban itself expires, which is one of the reasons why we have the 24 hour rule.

While it won't be resolved, I'd still like to address what happened here. Note that I haven't looked at the logs, and am simply going off of what you said in your explanation.

• I don't understand how Mochi was a part of the ban. He enters the story at the start, and disappears later. The ban is for decapping the doctor, not Mochi?
• For reference, throwing 3 large beakers at an unarmored human is less than 1/4th the damage from a single punch. Perhaps I'm using the wrong beakers, or not throwing them right? Or it was just the fact that he taunted you with them?
• I also don't understand how you heard him threaten you or called for help while still knocked out on the floor. You only woke up after getting anti-toxin in research.
• The first time I read it, it wasn't clear where you started summarizing what you said. I thought he drugged you a third time after you shot him in his greasy face, but it seems that was just the start of a very long recap.
• From what you said: He threw three beakers at you, hit you with a crowbar (after you crowbar'd him), threatened to OD you, and threatened to OD you again (after you ran after him and threatened to shoot him). In response to this, you decapitated him.

You were conscious and out of Keagan's grasp. You could have left medbay and/or called the MPs to report it. I don't know how you expected him to react when a marine stands outside his surgery room and announces that they're gonna shoot him. He knocked you unconscious and threatened you with an OD, but apparently never actually overdosed you? You say you felt healthy enough to threaten him and shoot him, and you forgot to mention that you did more than just "shoot him in the face", you shot him until he was decapitated.

It really sounds like your issue was less with a threat to your life and more a threat to your pride, or a desire for revenge. If you're actually concerned that someone will kill you, or you want them brought to justice, you can just call the Military Police for help instead of chasing after them and forcing a confrontation via death threats. If you think it's an OOC issue, like Adralimas said, you can ahelp it.

If you still think he griefed you and want to make a player report for a proper investigation, viewforum.php?f=63 is the place for it. Waiting for tomorrow and thinking it over might help. Also, it's always harder to read walls of text, so try spacing out your thoughts a bit with the enter key.

What I mean by unconscious is I was knocked on the floor and couldnt get up, I think he used chloral hydrate or something like that. I was fading in and out of consciousness though. And with the shooting thing, I had actually intended to paincrit him the decap was completely random and I was shocked by it too I didnt really think an SMG could decap a fella. Also he threatened to OD me as he drugged me so he was just dragging me along the floor to the medbay where I assume he would try to OD me but the researcher ran up and drugged him and dragged me back to the medlab

[Sir Lordington]

Ban expired. Don't appeal bans that last 24 hours or less.

Resolved