The Feeble Achilles vs the Mighty Unknown and rahzel

[AchillesHeel]

Byond Key: AchillesHeel

Staff Byond key: Rahzel/UnknownMurder

Is this a complaint about a ban less than 24 hours? No it is not.

Complaint, and Evidence (Please use an imgur album for multiple screenshots) I do not care to be unbanned or back on this admin team. All I care to hear is that I was right both staff members online failed to give me a valid or even proper reason.

Do you believe what the staff did was for the good of the server? On Rahzel's point on banning me he/she did not even care to look into the IC situation. I was one of two Xenomorphic runners when we were low on aliens. In no way was this good for the server at all I was not causing any problems with the regular players or in IC. Besides the point Rahzel insults me twice both times using profanity while I said nothing of the sorts to him/her. I would just adore the thought of to keep this injudicious conversation to continue.

Do you think the staff member should be removed? Conceivably but I already know that would not happen with either.

What do you think an appropriate punishment might be? All I wan to hear is that the point I stated towards Unknown was correct all you have to do is say I'm right.

[Rahlzel]

To begin, let it be known that I am (and was) invoking Rule 0 against Achilles in this matter.

I agree that you should've been removed from staff for abusing the use of Admin commands, no matter how minor you might think the reason. As a Trial Mod, you're held to a far greater standard and expectation. We want to know that the people we're making Trial Mods are able to apply themselves without the temptation of an Admin command that would have (as in your case) broken roleplay.

That being said, I don't care as much about what you did IC as much as what you said to Unknown and I in Ahelps today. You were very disrespectful and condescending, and I'm very happy you're no longer on our staff team. You kept pushing the issue even while Unknown was answering other Ahelps, and then you pointed out his absence from your discussion as if proof that he was a bad Admin. I had enough of that "bullshit", which is the extreme profanity that I used against you that you're so eager to use as evidence to my ineptitude.

If you're only concern is to be told that you're right, then you have some serious issues that you need to contend with before you should consider going anywhere near a position of authority in your future.

[UnknownMurder]

This is what you said.

[15:21:18]ADMIN: HELP: AchillesHeel/(Zafir Nazari): It jusat highly saddens me how this was handled I do my job fine two days in a row. Than on my third day after still doing my job I am confronted with an real life emrgency and have to leave. For one mistake of just using the verb to kill myself I am fired tell me is that your nly valid reason? - heard by 1 non-AFK admins.

[15:18:47]ADMIN: PM: AchillesHeel/(Zafir Nazari)->UnknownMurder/(Alex Graves): I logged off by than I don't have time to just sit here and wait for what you have to say in that kind of real life problem.

[15:17:38]ADMIN: PM: AchillesHeel/(Zafir Nazari)->UnknownMurder/(Alex Graves): We were at the point in the round where we had made contact with Xenomorphs and they started attacking and infecting marines. So we were in EVA to get helmets while beign attacked by what is this I real life emergnecy happens to poor Achilles. So I decide to remove my gear everything and prepare to go off by killing myself. Than I thought I can just delete myself my than comes the spam of admin texts asking why and I said I am sorry but it is an emergency I had to go. So instead of allowing me to explain or anything you go ahead and fire me hmm.

And there are more insults you've given to me, as I remained quiet for few minutes. Rahlzel (ViceHost) decides to step in, informed you to take it to the forum which you did not.

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Let me reiterate myself again.
Being a Trialmod is not a right, but a priviledge. You have abused the priviledge. Players are well informed now that we have Marine Rule #3 that restricts random suicides, I punish players for randomly suiciding. Staffs punishes players for randomly suiciding. I've told you this once, and I will tell you this again, "With Great Power, comes with Great Responsbility." I don't see this as a 'mistake' as you say.

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"With your flippant use of Admin verbs and now your attitude here, I'm very happy you're no longer on our staff team anymore. You have two choices. You can either stop this bullshit and take it to the appropriate section of our forums, or I can forcibly remove you. Your call." -Rahlzel

You decided not to do so and so, you were forcibly removed by Rahlzel.

' [15:45:21]ADMIN: PM: AchillesHeel/(alien larva (465))->Rahlzel/(Valdus Rahl): Oh please Rahlzel hush would you rather me post this on forum and watch it go nowhere as it will takes days and weeks for admins to respond . Or should I take the right route and speak directly towards the person who caused this all. Oh your very happy I'm not on staff anymore please don't you even . Oh look now you start using profanity you were not even there so please don't intrude on something you have little factual information about."

This is what you replied.

[15:47:25]ADMIN: rahlzel has banned achillesheel.
Reason: Warned not to continue to be an incessant prick and to take his issues to our forums. Continued.
This will be removed in 4321 minutes.

I am certain my message reached across clearly.

[AchillesHeel]

I enjoy this already to bad there are no screenshots so I don't even have to comment. Firstly as said again the "abuse" you and Unknown keep applying that I employed in my short term in mod is quite false. The only thing I simply did was use the kill verb on myself in what situation you ask. I was with my squad in EVA after the Aliens began their assault upon the marines. We charged there after marines kept getting facehugged to receive helmets to give ourselves proper protection. In that moment where we finally reached EVA an emergency had befallen me my Mother has just gotten herself in a minor car crash with my brother also in the car. So my brother called me and undoubtedly shocked and scared. So I did not try and waste anytime to leave and get down there immediately. So in-game I removed all of my items and than used my verb to kill myself and afterwards to delete. However a large amount of admin texts began to flood my screen asking for a reason. I responded to maybe one or two with a quick response that I have a real life emergency and am terribly sorry I have to go instead of finishing with my character. So I left right after that and did not get back on until the next morning. This was my third day as trial mod after two days of successfully doing my job and more while even receiving compliments from some of the other staff.

Now you Rahlzel am saying I should have been removed for abusing the admin commands. While in fact the only admin command I used was Kill on my character instead of just shooting myself in the head. Or instead have just let my character go braindead and get infected by the Alien assault hurting the marines and helping the Aliens. Than you say I was very disrespectful towards you and Unknown while the only disrespectful thing I said to Unknown is that "I'm sorry I forgot your age" and than you respond with saying "I'm bullshit" while I said nothing disrespectful towards you but saying hush.

Unknown please go aheaded and post these "other" insults. What you fail to see is this was not an random IC moment why would I just kill myself randomly. When I killed myself I could have numerous reasons why but I had no time. At that time many marine shave been taken by the hostile Alien lifeforms and we had to fallback to EVA to get protection to fight back. While Aliens were seen running around the front of EVA. What you are implying was that I just killed myself out of the blue. As if I was just spawned and geared up than just killed myself just for the fun of abusing. Not the mention the fact that you keep ignoring that I was in an emergency.

[apophis775]

I understand that it was an emergency,

However, you did not go about this the right way. You should have made a post on the forums first, not continually harassed our staff. Had to made your case on the forums, and explained it, there may have been a chance, it was over-looked because of the situation, however you didn't. You decided to message people on the server and harass my staff. With all that has happened, there's nothing I can really do EXCEPT support them in their decisions. You WERE told to take it to the forums, you didn't, they took additional action.

We can not have someone on the staff team, who is not only willing to use staff powers the way you did, nor, can we have someone on the staff team, who insults higher ranking staff, and refuses to listen. If we kept people who couldn't follow orders or directions, we'd never get anything done.

Thus, as I'm the only one who can make a ruling on this, since it involves both Unknown and Rahlzel, I'm going to find in their favor. They have provided BEYOND clear enough evidence, of your condescending tone and attitude towards them, and even in checking the logs, I've not seen them return that same attitude, despite Unknown helping with other Ahelps.

If you would like, I can grab the relevant logs and post them for you, so you can remember what you said, however, that might be more hurtful than helpful.

[AchillesHeel]

Oh yes please go ahead and post all the logs of how I harassed the staff. You say they have "beyond" clear enough evidence however they keep stating the exact same thing go ahead and show that evidence. Which is that I abused my powers please tell me how I abused exactly. By using the kill verb on myself ah yes quite right a regular player does not have the ability to just kill yourself. While your at it go ahead and check the logs while I was a trial mod see all the other times I disrespected the staff and abused my power. I didn't want to post it on the forums because this would exactly happen such a time lapse between replies. When I was speaking directly to Unknown and explained out my whole situation. Did he say post it on forums no he just kept saying I abused my "powers" as a trial mod even when I explained it out multiple times with no disrespectful tone. So please all try and continue this conversation with stupendous amount of said evidence against me.

[Rahlzel]

This sarcastic tone you're using is not helping your cause.

[UnknownMurder]

Oh yes please go ahead and post all the logs of how I harassed the staff. You say they have "beyond" clear enough evidence however they keep stating the exact same thing go ahead and show that evidence. Which is that I abused my powers please tell me how I abused exactly. By using the kill verb on myself ah yes quite right a regular player does not have the ability to just kill yourself. While your at it go ahead and check the logs while I was a trial mod see all the other times I disrespected the staff and abused my power. I didn't want to post it on the forums because this would exactly happen such a time lapse between replies. When I was speaking directly to Unknown and explained out my whole situation. Did he say post it on forums no he just kept saying I abused my "powers" as a trial mod even when I explained it out multiple times with no disrespectful tone. So please all try and continue this conversation with stupendous amount of said evidence against me.

What you did was wrong. There are no excuses because of an 'emergency'. Just because there was an 'emergency', did you actually think I would be a nice guy and give you a pat and a pardon and tell you "It's alright." Welcome to the real world, your boss on your real job isn't going to act like this.

[AchillesHeel]

Unknown you do not even have or job or can get one at your age while I have been working for two years. So do not try to bring that in here when you don't have any experience about it. "Welcome to the real world" this is a 2D game and nowhere should this be compared. No excuses for an emergency really just really Unknown unless your boss is a fifteen year old kid than I understand .Emergencies happen all the time with workers come on now. You keep saying what I did was wrong how and what way did I exactly abuse again? Oh yes that is correct Sir I used the kill verb on myself while I was fully equipped with weapons and nothing restraining me from doing so without the admin verb. Oh but wait it was an random suicide well no because we had already seen more than one marine chest bursting and were being over run by hostile aliens. It's obvious you still believe you did no wrong so why don't you go ahead and close this thread.

[apophis775]

Are we going to go off of jobs/age and responisbility?

Cause I'm pretty sure I trump all of whatever any of you think are accomplishments, considering I joined the Military when I was 18, and was fighting in another country a little over a year later...

Actually, twas 10 years ago...

[UnknownMurder]

Resolved. Closed and moving.

[apophis775]

Re-opened and returned.

Unknown, you aren't allowed to close complaints your involved it.

[apophis775]

Last chance for input, I'm resolving this tonight.

[UnknownMurder]

Resolve it... It's been... longer than 10 days.