Jobban appeal for gabedr

[Gabedr]

Your Byond ID: Gabedr

Character Name: Martti Juhola

Type Of Ban (Job-ban (include the job), Timed Ban, Permaban): Job Ban on Staff Officer

Admin who banned you (if known): N/A

Total Ban Duration: I'm guessing perma for the job?

Remaining Duration: N/A

What other servers do you play on?
Baystation

Are you now or have you been banned on any servers? Which ones?
No.

Reason for ban (If you have a Permaban, it should be the EXACT MESSAGE YOU GET WHEN YOU LOGIN with the Error code that looks like this: X##XXX##. If you do not provide this EXACTLY you can't be unbanned):
Early-suicide in Briefing, no reason for suicide. Or somewhere along those lines.

Link to previous appeals for the same ban (if applicable): N/A

Your appeal, including evidence (screenshots, etc): My appeal is that at the time I did not know the rules very well about leaving the game. This was back in 2017, I think this was in November when I was a fairly new player to SS13 and CM. And since I didn't know much about CM and the rules very well, I figured I'd just RP a suicide in the briefing which ultimately led to me getting banned. I didn't know at the time, I could've just ahelped and let you guys know about me leaving so early and head to cryo. I have no evidence since I'm unable to get them from my PC which unfortunately died in August, F ;(.... But yes, I'd like to appeal since I've learned how CM and SS13 works since 2017, and I'd like to play as SO sometimes and not screw it up.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Notes:

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Notes for Gabedr:

Banned from Staff Officer - Suicided before briefing.
by Adminbot (Friendly Robot) on Thu, February 15th of 2018

Banned by Duration: 180 minutes|Reason: Suicided as SO because he didn't have time to play. Above note is related.
by on Thu, February 15th of 2018

[Dorkkeli]

Ignorance is not an excuse.

If you need to leave the game, what is the proper way, instead of suiciding?

[Lumdor]

The ban was a while ago I'm gonna give you a +1. Just be sure you don't suicide and instead cryo if you must leave.

[Solarmare]

What do you do when you need to go offline then?

[Mizari]

You state you didn't know the rules back in 2017 November, fair enough but this ban was placed in February this year which is 4 months after you started playing. I don't think you can call ignorance in this instance so tell me why should we unban you. I'm neutral until you can answer my question and what the other staff asked you also.

[Grubstank]

I'll give this a +1. The offense didn't negatively affect other players in a significant way, and it has been a good amount of time since the ban was placed.

[Gabedr]

What do you do when you need to go offline then?

It didn't come across to my mind to go Cryo at the time, or even ahelping it.

Ignorance is not an excuse. If you need to leave the game, what is the proper way, instead of suiciding?

Since I've been playing for quite a while now, I learned it to be either letting you guys know or go straight to cryo.

You state you didn't know the rules back in 2017 November, fair enough but this ban was placed in February this year which is 4 months after you started playing. I don't think you can call ignorance in this instance so tell me why should we unban you. I'm neutral until you can answer my question and what the other staff asked you also.

Oh, February then, nvm. I sort of buried it into my mind what month it was and assumed it was around October or November. Anyways. I believe, I only read half of the rules at the time from November to February ( I always thought myself as to being the type of person to learn it as I play, I learned soon enough that it was a big mistake ), I admit my first mistake was not to read all of them when I first started playing. By February, I still consider my self quite new though, cause I was still getting comfortable with a lot of things in SS13 and I didn't start to play SS13 a lot until the summer of 2018, that's when I truly began to play a lot of CM, Baystation12 and learned a bit of adminning through Bad Deathclaw.

This part happened during Summer to present time;
I learned quite a few( or a lot of ) things over the time, and pretty weirdly, cause they were mostly through other servers like Baystation and not through CM.
In BD, we didn't have a rule with cryo, so going SSD wasn't seen as a bad thing unless you did some really shady stuff to go mysteriously SSD from what I remember, so I'm going rule out BD for this one.

Funny enough, I learned that I should notify other players that I was going to Cryo or Admins then go to Cryo on Baystation12, that's when it legit hit me that I could do that in CM ( or similar ways, like just going straight to cryo as stated on rules ). And since that, I've been either dying or going into cryo/a-helping if I was in any hurry ever since then.

Now back to October -> February;
I always had full rounds where I ultimately ended up dying. I never had around where I had to go so suddenly and in a hurry until that one round where I decided to suicide and I thought you guys would've had been okay with it if I had just explained myself after doing so through a-helps.

As I'm writing this, I'm trying to remember things on how it happened, and this is what I recall through what's happened since then, and where I am on my current standing with the rules and the game itself. I admitted before that I didn't learn all of the rules around November-February and learned it instead much later(Mostly in Summer; For some reason.), that's my first mistake. I also admit at the time of my ban, there were alternatives where I could've told myself or just have known better... "Gabe, you could've thought of it at the time about a-helping instead of just suiciding" or "It is legit the most logical way of leaving"... or... "JUST READ THE DAMN RULES, GABE". But, being me, and being myself at February at the time... I sometimes don't realize the most obvious of things and how things could've gone until I start thinking about it a lot more ( then starting to learn it later.. ).

I know this appeal sounds kind of weird or something... I just want to say this is just my attempt at appealing on a job, I really don't expect much and know that there were a lot of things I could've done differently, and I'm trying to sound honest and be as honest I can be, and if you guys deem this un-bannable, it is completely fine. This whole ban overall was just done over my stupidity after all.

[ThesoldierLLJK]

Next time cyro or send an ahelp like you said
+1

[Dorkkeli]

Alright, +1.
Well thought out reply.

[Mizari]

You put effort into answering the questions submitted and I think you can be given another chance. +1 from me.

[Sir Lordington]

Lesson learned, I think.

Resolved - SO ban lifted