Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

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Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 16 Dec 2018, 15:42

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Marine Name (so we know who you are; if you play alien mostly, state that here):
Sal 'Spaghetti' Spanelli/Alien main
Name of the character you want whitelisted (The name your predator will use. This must match your in-game predator name):
Deser Thar'n
Are you familiar with the Predator Code Of Honor?
Absolutely, as the most powerful role on the server there's a great amount of responsibility to not abuse them in any fashion. Good judgement must even be shown in the event of death as the Predator SD or lack of SD has potentially round changing results.

Character background (An ADEQUATE description and story of your predators background):
I've provided a google document for easy viewing and format. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-DQ ... sp=sharing

How do you intend to play your predator (as in, describe HOW you will act/play your predator)? I intend to put an emphasis on the interaction with Marine forces, where Xeno hunting could offer exceptional combat, Marine hunting can offer exceptional RP. I've also noticed a lot of Preds don't seem to care for stealth at all, often making themselves visible on edges of battlegrounds and such. I've never understood or enjoyed those moments and will be steering away from them as much as possible. Target hunting will most likely take the form of observing combat in a stealthy manner to mark a target, rather than making myself apparent and known. (I.E baiting to be shot at or letting some marine stroll up and poke you)
Finally, after many good moments with the bloodsports I will definitely attempt these as well, as they've easily marked some of the best moments I've had with Preds and fellow Marines.

Why should we whitelist you?
I've been a member of the community for over a year now and have demonstrated that I may be trusted in a whitelisted role. (CO whitelist)
Have you been banned from CM in the last month for any reason (we will check, and lies may result in immediate denial)?
No.
Are you currently banned from any other servers and if so, why?
Nope.
Do you understand that any player - donor or otherwise - can have their whitelist status revoked should they break our rules or disobey the Predator Code of Honor?
Absolutely, no member of staff or member of the community, no matter their popularity or lack of should be above the rules.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Sleepy Retard » 17 Dec 2018, 00:02

The story is interesting. While not timeline accurate, we can ignore that just to enjoy the story.

I know you're not a shitbird when you play commander, and I've seen you perform more than a hearty helping of RPing when you play as a PFC, CL, or command staff. I trust you'd be able to easily carry that over to predator, combat or not.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 17 Dec 2018, 00:14

Sleepy Retard wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 00:02
The story is interesting. While not timeline accurate, we can ignore that just to enjoy the story.

I know you're not a shitbird when you play commander, and I've seen you perform more than a hearty helping of RPing when you play as a PFC, CL, or command staff. I trust you'd be able to easily carry that over to predator, combat or not.
Appreciated, had a lot of fun researching/writing for this app even if it deviates from the usual time range a bit.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by ThesoldierLLJK » 17 Dec 2018, 07:31

So I read the story when he first showed to me, and I still say Lorewise a predator over 2000 years old doesn't make sense to me. But at the same time the story was good and accurate in depicting a Roman Contubernium so he gets brownie points for having his history accurate.

The only issue I have is your Discord history, and I think you're still banned. So getting in touch with you dealing with Yaujta stuff will be a bit of a problem.

However when people get discord banned, we do not remove their whitelists

so +1


edit: This application is probably going to cause some controversy because of his personality. I've seen him roleplay really good when he tries, so I base it off that we have the honor code, so I think it would really keep him in line.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by simonset55 » 17 Dec 2018, 10:33

Aren't you being punished for silly memery as a commander? You defended your Tracer and Winston CO announcement by saying you had a marine called Winston or something, and implied that it wasn't a meme at all. Which is a pretty damn bad excuse since it clearly was intended as a meme.

You're also banned from the discord for being an utter cunt, you're argumentative and never see the wrong in your ways, just the kind of person no one wants to deal with.

Fine enough story though I guess, looking aside from the pred being over a thousand years old. Nothing special in the way you'll be playing.

It's up to others to decide, I don't care too much. Neutral but leaning towards a negative.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 17 Dec 2018, 14:16

ThesoldierLLJK wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 07:31
So I read the story when he first showed to me, and I still say Lorewise a predator over 2000 years old doesn't make sense to me. But at the same time the story was good and accurate in depicting a Roman Contubernium so he gets brownie points for having his history accurate.

The only issue I have is your Discord history, and I think you're still banned. So getting in touch with you dealing with Yaujta stuff will be a bit of a problem.

However when people get discord banned, we do not remove their whitelists

so +1


edit: This application is probably going to cause some controversy because of his personality. I've seen him roleplay really good when he tries, so I base it off that we have the honor code, so I think it would really keep him in line.
While I understand a lot of people think I'm a massive prick, my OOC personality has never bled thru into IC actions to warrant any issues in regards to an abuse of role or meta-grudge.
CO is a lot of dealing with pointless aggression or baiting from lower enlisted with its own set of strict guidelines that I time and time again adhere to.

@Mudder, I was asked by a staff member about the announcement during that round, it was in reference to a Marine with the nick-name tracer. The staff member let me know that with the CO updates coming into play the CO's needed to raise the bar and keep it there. No notes or anything past a discussion were born from this.
So no I'm not, the discord ban is in regards to a disagreement and can be viewed in my post history. As was the question about the Tracer announcement, while I appreciate you taking the time to reply, I'd also encourage some basic research into your own questions before submitting them.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Ghostdex » 17 Dec 2018, 15:22

Application is relatively generic and you have a terrible history, your recent discord ban is also pretty bad. All in all -1 from me.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 17 Dec 2018, 15:31

Ghostdex wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:22
Application is relativly generic and you have a terrible history, your recent discord ban is also pretty bad. All in all -1 from me.
Generic in the intended playstyle? I had an idea for a different playstyle but when talking with other Preds they informed me it wasn't really a reliable/realistic idea with how things are set up. While I also understand that people seem to like a unique Predator gimmick, I can't say I've ever seen predators deviate from the normal behavior in an actual round.

While a shitter about discord I'd again say it's not something that ever comes into IC or has ever effected the way I RP or interact with the community.

Thanks for the feedback.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Enigmachine » 17 Dec 2018, 15:45

I witnessed against Bob in his Discord ban, but I've also been in rounds where he was CO multiple times.

His claim of taking RP seriously is for real. The Overwatch announcement thing looks like he got carried away with trying to banter with his marines, for which he has already caught plenty of shit and thus been corrected.

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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 17 Dec 2018, 15:57

Enigmachine wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:45
I witnessed against Bob in his Discord ban, but I've also been in rounds where he was CO multiple times.

His claim of taking RP seriously is for real. The Overwatch announcement thing looks like he got carried away with trying to banter with his marines, for which he has already caught plenty of shit and thus been corrected.

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Thanks for the feedback, I try to make the RP enjoyable for everyone involved given the circumstances at the time. Always nice to have you on my staff as a MP if I'm remembering correctly.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Karmac » 17 Dec 2018, 16:40

I literally only realised just yesterday at midnight you're like 2000 years old and still don't know how to feel about that. I'll edit this post later to include an actual opinion if it hasn't been denied for your recent behaviour by then.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 17 Dec 2018, 16:51

Karmac wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 16:40
I literally only realised just yesterday at midnight you're like 2000 years old and still don't know how to feel about that. I'll edit this post later to include an actual opinion if it hasn't been denied for your recent behaviour by then.
I think the general opinion I got when researching the lore and speaking with other predators is the there's no real consistent bit of canon or lore when it comes to this area. Some websites saying they age 20x slower than humans and others that 10,000 years old is nothing out of the ordinary.

I can re-write a different story for the sake of server canon/lore, I would just take the setting aside for now and observe the content.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Ghostdex » 18 Dec 2018, 18:17

BobatNight wrote:
17 Dec 2018, 15:31
Generic in the intended playstyle? I had an idea for a different playstyle but when talking with other Preds they informed me it wasn't really a reliable/realistic idea with how things are set up. While I also understand that people seem to like a unique Predator gimmick, I can't say I've ever seen predators deviate from the normal behavior in an actual round.

While a shitter about discord I'd again say it's not something that ever comes into IC or has ever effected the way I RP or interact with the community.

Thanks for the feedback.
Mainly the playstyle, its extremely generic. The story itself is long and decent however. You dont have a great note history, especially the most recent ban and while I can appreciate that you take your RP seriously your history means I'm still at a -1 about this application
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Karmac » 18 Dec 2018, 18:27

Ghostdex wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 18:17
Mainly the playstyle, its extremely generic. The story itself is long and decent however. You dont have a great note history, especially the most recent ban and while I can appreciate that you take your RP seriously your history means I'm still at a -1 about this application
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 18 Dec 2018, 18:41

I don't see an issue in a Predator intending to play as a Predator, and with reference to accepted whitelists as applicants are instructed to view it hasn't seemed to be an issue in the past.
Unfortunately there's no clear standard for what makes an App good as many reviews vary wildly in their expectations and reasons for +1/-1.

Thanks for taking the time provide further feedback.

I'd also like to point out that the last actual note I had was 8 months ago disregarding an instance of arguing in hivemind. I've definitely shown a significant improvement from past shittery and I don't agree with holding the past against someone when they've demonstrated a definite change.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 18 Dec 2018, 20:00

Karmac wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 18:27
Karmac while I do welcome criticism of a valid origin, I can't help but notice the intense hypocrisy in your review. Your note history is similar if not more extensive with discord bans and staff removal, you've recently reapplied to staff under the guise you've improved for the better. After reviewing your own predator application, I cannot find differences in your and my intended playstyles, both referencing hunting and an emphasis on not being a predator who walks up to chat with marines. Funnily enough you were also discord banned at the time of your app as well.

This isn't intended as an attack on you, just to point out that your critique of the App is incredibly hypocritical from yourself.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Karmac » 18 Dec 2018, 21:45

that's cool and all but I don't understand the point of your comments if it isn't meant as an attack

I didn't accept those applications, I just made them
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Imperator_Titan » 27 Dec 2018, 15:55

Ghostdex wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 18:17
Mainly the playstyle, its extremely generic. The story itself is long and decent however. You dont have a great note history, especially the most recent ban and while I can appreciate that you take your RP seriously your history means I'm still at a -1 about this application
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Post by BobatNight » 28 Dec 2018, 01:15

I mean to be fair the entire recent ban is pretty stupid, the generic I can live with.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by BobatNight » 28 Dec 2018, 13:51

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As far as the rule breaks go, the Predator honor code are clear cut with their expectations and limits. There's no intentionally vague rules for staff to have wildly different interpretations of, I don't see any issues coming up.


I'm not sure why you believe other people need to play their predator as something other else, when you all have the 'I'm gonna be a predator' in your intended styles. The difference being, I intend to be stealthy and in the case of Imperator and Karmac, they don't intend to be stealthy.
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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Symbiosis » 28 Dec 2018, 19:32

So, I think Boba has had a few contentious moments over the last year.

Like most players.

I do know, however, that he definitely attempts to RP. I like the playstyle aspect of being stealthy... I think that really can bring a lot of enjoyment to the round.

He's got a note history, but a lot of folks in the community do. Generally there's a much tighter leash on Predator players as a whole, anywho.

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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by spartanbobby » 29 Dec 2018, 04:25

Symbiosis wrote:
28 Dec 2018, 19:32
So, I think Boba has had a few contentious moments over the last year.

Like most players.

I do know, however, that he definitely attempts to RP. I like the playstyle aspect of being stealthy... I think that really can bring a lot of enjoyment to the round.

He's got a note history, but a lot of folks in the community do. Generally there's a much tighter leash on Predator players as a whole, anywho.

+1
You're active, you've done some weird stuff and a CO and recently as a survivor but you've also had some good moments of RP the story was fine and all and I've quoted chubs in my past 2 app responses so +1
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Post by BobatNight » 29 Dec 2018, 12:32

Symbiosis wrote:
28 Dec 2018, 19:32
+1
spartanbobby wrote:
29 Dec 2018, 04:25
You're active, you've done some weird stuff and a CO and recently as a survivor but you've also had some good moments of RP the story was fine and all and I've quoted chubs in my past 2 app responses so +1
Definitely appreciate the support of arguably 2 of the best Predators around.
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Post by Sailor Dave » 31 Dec 2018, 09:20

I don't know if I trust you with this role, but the application is good and several people are willing to vouch for you. I know you can handle the RP aspect, but please be considerate and don't stir up trouble with other people, since predators tend to be very salt-inducing both for you and your targets.

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Re: Deser Thar'n - Spaghetti's Predator App

Post by Emeraldblood » 31 Dec 2018, 14:17

The final post I'm dealing with on the old forums, accepted.
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