Raxnor's ban appeal

[Rax]

Beyond ID:Raxnor

Character name:Not sure, something close to Danny Reagan

Admin who banned you:apophis775

Initial duration:10days

Duration remaining:9days

Reason for ban:Exessive end of round grief - Acid granade

Your appeal, including evidence (an www.imgur.com album is recommended for multiple screenshots): Firstly, I had no time to actually talk with admins about what had happened, as I though he was joking at first, and then I was banned before I could say anything else. Also, I didin't have time to take any screenshots.

Now what happened from my view.
I was in xenobiology with my squad Charlie after the round, and I decided to test the acid granade I still got with me, by throwing it into a far side of room. However because of my characters wounds, he dropped the live granade on his feet, luckily everyone else were far away from me, so I was only one that died or even touched the gas.

Right after this I sent a message to admins, explaining myself, just in case. After that I got message from Bio(something, don't remember rest of his name)
(Could be biolock after checking forums)

Bio: "Was it really worth is?"
Bio: "You just killed 6 marines" at this point I though, with a good reason he was joking, because everyone else were still standing in room, and totally we were only 4 guys in there.
Bio: "You will be banned for 6 hours, do you understand?" After this I only realized that he may not be joking and started writing back, only to be instabanned.

I don't have logs, and my memory is not perfect, but those were the main points he said. I seriously think there was someone else using acid nade at same time, and admins picked me By mistake.

[Mordrehel]

I'll grab some relevant logs...

Bans:

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[19:27:19]ADMIN: biolock has banned raxnor.
Reason: End of round grief.
This will be removed in 180 minutes.

[19:26:50]ADMIN: apophis775 has banned raxnor.
Reason: EXCESSIVE END OF ROUND GRIEF - ACID GRENADE - Unacceptable
This will be removed in 14400 minutes.

Relevant ahelps/ messages:

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[19:25:36]ADMIN: HELP: Raxnor/(Donny Reade): If you wonder poly release, I fainted when I tried to throw it...I doubt anyone else got hurt than me. - heard by 4 non-AFK admins.
[19:25:40]ADMIN: PM: Biolock/(Alex Crossman)->Raxnor/(Donny Reade): Nice man.... Was it worth it?
[19:25:52]ADMIN: PM: Biolock/(Alex Crossman)->Raxnor/(Donny Reade): You killed around six people.
[19:26:07]ADMIN: PM: Raxnor/(Donny Reade)->Biolock/(Alex Crossman): Oh noes! M-m-multikill!
[19:26:32]ADMIN: PM: Biolock/(Alex Crossman)->Raxnor/(Donny Reade): You're recieving a three hour ban for end of round grief, understand?

Everything else was pretty much as Raxnor described. Looking through the logs I have no idea why he'd intentionally kill a ton of people at the round's end and he may well be joking. Anywho, the rest is up to SAS or Apop.

[apophis775]

Yea, I told bio and the other admins to stand back
you threw the grenade AFTER i warned not to end of round grief with grenades TWICE.

The second warning, even said "STOP THROWING ACID GRENADES" or something similar.

everyone who threw acid grenades after CD did, got 10 day bans.

Maybe next time, you'll take the "STOP FUCKING AROUND" messages the HOST OF THE SERVER was spamming over global chat seriously. Or maybe, you'll read the no EOR grief rule.

[Rax]

Griefing - Defined as the perceived intent of one player wanting to cause grief to other players or to the server without any roleplay or reason.
Examples of Griefing:
◦Harming other players (of the same species) at the end of the round. Marine vs Xeno is fine. - End of Round Grief, is an IMMEDIATE 3 hour ban, no warnings.

I fail to see how acidentally killing myself breaks this rule.

Though I admid I was not following text box, that was being spammed By OOC, in game and admin messages, like every single time, when round ends.
If grand crime of not noticing two red messages that are in the text box for about 15seconds, is worth of a 10day ban, I wonder what the actual griefers get.

[apophis775]

Anyone, who threw an acid grenade, after the second "STOP THE GRIEF" warning, and the first "DON'T THROW ACID GRENADES" warning, got a 10 day ban.

[SASoperative]

Yeah agreed with Apop. Not to mention if the host bans you there is not much hope for you since you must have messed up pretty badly. Acid grenades are already frowned upon PRETTY SEVERELY actually given their grief like abilities than not only that but from the recent bans this is not a new offense and you should have learned by now. Denied needless to say.

[SASoperative]

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